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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Mattress girl. What a (frank)ing dirtbag that girl was.
- tomburton99



I'm just thrilled the UVA guys and that Columbia student are suing the poop out of the universities and Rolling Stone. I still don't get why the girls weren't charged though.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
Nick Saban said it best: paraphrasing - "don't f**k around with someone who has less to lose than you."

Kane may be completely innocent but if he is still hanging around college kids and average Joe's getting hammered he is asking for trouble.

Former porn star Lisa Ann is offering up free dinner to any championship athlete. Put that new ring to use Kane and look her up. Free meal, you know what she looks like naked, and you won't have any police inquiries as a result.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
http://slam.canoe.com/Sla.../2015/08/06/22538080.html

Bad news for Chicago
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
Nick Saban said it best: paraphrasing - "don't f**k around with someone who has less to lose than you."

Kane may be completely innocent but if he is still hanging around college kids and average Joe's getting hammered he is asking for trouble.

Former porn star Lisa Ann is offering up free dinner to any championship athlete. Put that new ring to use Kane and look her up. Free meal, you know what she looks like naked, and you won't have any police inquiries as a result.

- Maskdman3

Yeah but MDZ hits up Lisa Ann. Patty Kane needs to class himself up a bit.
RangerFan1110
New York Rangers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.30.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
The Devils suck so much now they are coming to our blog!!!
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Chicago/2015/08/06/22538080.html

Bad news for Chicago

- KreiderBomb



Great news for everyone that dislikes Chicago.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

Aug 6 @ 12:55 PM ET
Great news for everyone that dislikes Chicago.
- MidnightMarauder

Meh this is a poopty situation. If Kane is innocent, his rep and legacy is still tarnished for life. If he's guilty, a girl got franking raped.

Gonna be interesting to see how the NHL handles this. They threw the book and Richards and Voynov but those guys weren't exactly at the level of superstardom that Kane is. Plus he's the cover of the new NHL.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
Meh this is a poopty situation. If Kane is innocent, his rep and legacy is still tarnished for life. If he's guilty, a girl got franking raped.

Gonna be interesting to see how the NHL handles this. They threw the book and Richards and Voynov but those guys weren't exactly at the level of superstardom that Kane is. Plus he's the cover of the new NHL.

- RAGSareDANGERus



A crime is a crime regardless of the person that committed it. I am not happy about this, for various and obvious reasons, but if he is guilty his fame shouldn't shelter him nor give him the ability to escape it either.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:01 PM ET
A crime is a crime regardless of the person that committed it. I am not happy about this, for various and obvious reasons, but if he is guilty his fame shouldn't shelter him nor give him the ability to escape it either.
- MidnightMarauder



I agree and if he is found innocent and the girl was looking for a pay day, she should spend the same amount of time in jail that Kane would have if he was found guilty.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:06 PM ET
I agree and if he is found innocent and the girl was looking for a pay day, she should spend the same amount of time in jail that Kane would have if he was found guilty.
- mdw7413


I agree, women that lie about being raped are truly lower than scum. But, if this story is true, homeboy should be locked up for at least five-ten years.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:10 PM ET
I agree, women that lie about being raped are truly lower than scum. But, if this story is true, homeboy should be locked up for at least five-ten years.
- MidnightMarauder



Absolutely, guys that abuse women/children are the most disgusting (frank)ing people. But women who lie about it are right there with them.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:18 PM ET
I agree and if he is found innocent and the girl was looking for a pay day, she should spend the same amount of time in jail that Kane would have if he was found guilty.
- mdw7413


According to the article, she went to the hospital and a rape kit was conducted, so they'll have some physical evidence one way or the other (although the kit in itself doesn't prove anything definitively). Just have to let this one play out. He is definitely an entitled little punk ass, but is he more than that.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:22 PM ET
According to the article, she went to the hospital and a rape kit was conducted, so they'll have some physical evidence one way or the other (although the kit in itself doesn't prove anything definitively). Just have to let this one play out. He is definitely an entitled little punk ass, but is he more than that.
- Pete V


This league can't catch a break. Back to back Stanley Cup winning teams with potential jailbirds on them.

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:27 PM ET
According to the article, she went to the hospital and a rape kit was conducted, so they'll have some physical evidence one way or the other (although the kit in itself doesn't prove anything definitively). Just have to let this one play out. He is definitely an entitled little punk ass, but is he more than that.
- Pete V



Yeah Pete I saw that. Depending on what they find, I understand that it "could" show force was used, but on the other hand it could just show they had intercourse. Then it just becomes a he said she said. Unfortunately the guy most times wont win that argument, and with his reputation makes it even less likely.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 6 @ 1:28 PM ET
According to the article, she went to the hospital and a rape kit was conducted, so they'll have some physical evidence one way or the other (although the kit in itself doesn't prove anything definitively). Just have to let this one play out. He is definitely an entitled little punk ass, but is he more than that.
- Pete V

That's what I don't get about the rape kit. Unless there is some alarming obvious mark or something isn't really just a he said she said thing? I never understood it or the process. Just give me a beer and i will go watch a good horror movie.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:29 PM ET
Yeah Pete I saw that. Depending on what they find, I understand that it "could" show force was used, but on the other hand it could just show they had intercourse. Then it just becomes a he said she said. Unfortunately the guy most times wont win that argument, and with his reputation makes it even less likely.
- mdw7413



Major pro athletes get away with a lot more than the average bloke.

Again, if he committed a crime, the law should not go light on him. Treat him as if he were any piece of garbage rapist. Because he can make highlight reel hockey plays doesn't mean he should given any sort of leeway.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
Major pro athletes get away with a lot more than the average bloke.

Again, if he committed a crime, the law should not go light on him. Treat him as if he were any piece of garbage rapist. Because he can make highlight reel hockey plays doesn't mean he should given any sort of leeway.

- MidnightMarauder



I agree MM, trust me, I think athletes, actors, actresses.. etc. anyone who is famous or in the public eye should actually be held to a higher standard.

My whole argument is "if" it turns out it is a he said she said, with no other evidence, doesn't matter if famous or not, a guy most likely won't get the benefit of the doubt.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
That's what I don't get about the rape kit. Unless there is some alarming obvious mark or something isn't really just a he said she said thing? I never understood it or the process. Just give me a beer and i will go watch a good horror movie.
- TPC


A rape kit turns up more than obvious alarming marks. I think the particulars of it are beyond all of our pay grades, but let's just say that it can turn up signs of the women's condition (outside of obvious alarming marks), that are consistent with non-consentual sex. It is not a magic bullet, but it is evidence, when couple with other evidence could mean bad news.

It's not always a matter of he said she said. What does the physical evidence show? Did anybody witness them together, either at the bar or after? What was her condition? How was he acting? How quickly did she reach out to anyone? Etc. Etc.

Obviously, in criminal cases, the standard of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, is hard to meet. In civil cases, the standard of proof, is a preponderance of the evidence, which basically means more likely than not -- it is a 51% standard.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
I agree MM, trust me, I think athletes, actors, actresses.. etc. anyone who is famous or in the public eye should actually be held to a higher standard.

My whole argument is "if" it turns out it is a he said she said, with no other evidence, doesn't matter if famous or not, a guy most likely won't get the benefit of the doubt.

- mdw7413


I actually don't agree with that. Pure he said, she said cases, without anything else, rarely lead to conviction.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
A rape kit turns up more than obvious alarming marks. I think the particulars of it are beyond all of our pay grades, but let's just say that it can turn up signs of the women's condition (outside of obvious alarming marks), that are consistent with non-consentual sex. It is not a magic bullet, but it is evidence, when couple with other evidence could mean bad news.

It's not always a matter of he said she said. What does the physical evidence show? Did anybody witness them together, either at the bar or after? What was her condition? How was he acting? How quickly did she reach out to anyone? Etc. Etc.

Obviously, in criminal cases, the standard of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, is hard to meet. In civil cases, the standard of proof, is a preponderance of the evidence, which basically means more likely than not -- it is a 51% standard.

- Pete V

Yea I mean I have no clue really about it at all. So I trust you guys on this
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:39 PM ET
I actually don't agree with that. Pure he said, she said cases, without anything else, rarely lead to conviction.
- Pete V



Criminally yes Pete, but I think what you responded to Matt about Civil is probably way more balanced in the womans favor.

I should have clarified, meaning civily he will be screwed most likely, rightly or wrongly. Reputation wise also rightly or wrongly.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Aug 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
Criminally yes Pete, but I think what you responded to Matt about Civil is probably way more balanced in the womans favor.

I should have clarified, meaning civily he will be screwed most likely, rightly or wrongly. Reputation wise also rightly or wrongly.

- mdw7413


We just have to let this one play out, and see what evidence there is, if any.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
Criminally yes Pete, but I think what you responded to Matt about Civil is probably way more balanced in the womans favor.

I should have clarified, meaning civily he will be screwed most likely, rightly or wrongly. Reputation wise also rightly or wrongly.

- mdw7413

If he is guilty, tie him up to the goalpost Goldberg style and let Kreider run him as many times as they feel necessary before sending him to jail.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
A rape kit turns up more than obvious alarming marks. I think the particulars of it are beyond all of our pay grades, but let's just say that it can turn up signs of the women's condition (outside of obvious alarming marks), that are consistent with non-consentual sex. It is not a magic bullet, but it is evidence, when couple with other evidence could mean bad news.

It's not always a matter of he said she said. What does the physical evidence show? Did anybody witness them together, either at the bar or after? What was her condition? How was he acting? How quickly did she reach out to anyone? Etc. Etc.

Obviously, in criminal cases, the standard of proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, is hard to meet. In civil cases, the standard of proof, is a preponderance of the evidence, which basically means more likely than not -- it is a 51% standard.

- Pete V





mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
If he is guilty, tie him up to the goalpost Goldberg style and let Kreider run him as many times as they feel necessary before sending him to jail.
- TPC




Honestly if I could make a law, and there is without a doubt you raped a women you should be put to death. No excuse for that, and most likely you will do it again. Same thing for child molesters.

Oh, and anyone who roots for the Devils, or doesn't use a blinker to turn.
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