Did he leave his feet?
- KOGGS

no, but tires were off the ground

Eklund: Some Stories Need To Be Waited On...Respect that. Podcast 1pm
- Eklund

that's a nice story about kane and not writing a story about kane, mr. eklund. personally, I could care less about kane. the canadiens need a centre. that's far more important.

Soapbox your rhetoric behind the guise of morality.

Signed,

Bill Cosby

PS: If your going to report that you are not going to report, admit that you have nothing to report rather than this morality play.

no, but tires were off the ground
- Tumbleweed

Sounds like it warrants a suspension, but it is his first run in with Player Safety so probably just a fine.

Soapbox your rhetoric behind the guise of morality.

Signed,

Bill Cosby

PS: If your going to report that you are not going to report, admit that you have nothing to report rather than this morality play.
- Beatle_john

Hits in August. Thats all Ek cares about. Otherwise this site would have a sweeping policy on criminal issues.

that's a nice story about kane and not writing a story about kane, mr. eklund. personally, I could care less about kane. the canadiens need a centre. that's far more important.
- rob121

So you do care.....

Sounds like it warrants a suspension, but it is his first run in with Player Safety so probably just a fine.
- KOGGS

Hits in August. Thats all Ek cares about. Otherwise this site would have a sweeping policy on criminal issues.
- hereticpride

100% bang on. I like this site but these transparent arguments are awful.

So you do care.....
- ImThatGuy

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhh, I see what you did there......

1) What does one have to do with the other

2) Paterno, at the very least, failed to act responsibly despite knowing at least part of what was happening. I am of the opinion he knew far more and actively looked the other way to avoid having the story get out, but that's just my opinion.

3) Even if Paterno were completely innocent and the media did completely skewer him irresponsibly...why can't they learn from their mistakes and fix them during the course of other major news stories like, potentially, this one.

The entire notion that because one situation was (according to you, anyway) mishandled, another one can't be handled more appropriately is absolutely insane.
- eichiefs9

1. They're both stories involving sports figures where an investigation took place and certain people rushed to judgment and formed conclusions before the facts came out, which is the exact issue being discussed with the Kane incident. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand the similarities.

2. Paterno reported the incident to the school's AD as he was obligated to do, so he met his legal obligation and was never charged with any crimes. It seems that your opinion is based more on conjecture and assumptions than actual facts of the situation, so you might want to do some more research. Which again brings us back to the point of this thread on Kane and making judgments on people without knowing the facts.

3. If the case is, as you suggest, a matter of admitting that the media acted recklessly and irresponsibly by leading a pitchfork mob to get Paterno fired & ruin his 60+ year reputation, and now they want to make amends by admitting guilt on that and using that as a "lesson learned" in order to change their methodology in future incidents, I would applaud that effort. I never said it couldn't or shouldn't be done, I was simply pointing out the irony of rushing to judgment in the one case while calling for patience in the second case. I'll also point out here that I've never seen instances of media outlets (ie ESPN, TSN, NESN, etc) apologize for how they have reported certain stories or "led the witness" with speculation in a case that has led to more public outrage (such as in the Sandusky case where they focused more on Paterno than the actual guilty party of Sandusky). Either way, I'm not sure how you misinterpreted the observation so badly or why you're lambasting it so incredulously, as that's not even close to what I was trying to say. But that's cool, cheers!

In the COURT'S opinion he may be allowed to participate in team activities. Sounds more like a team and league decision.
- KOGGS

Of all the things to be accused of, this is "In the Red".
Would you want him to play games before there's a resolution? I could only imagine what a rival team & their crowds would say. It would be a huge distraction.

I understand what you are doing here. And to some extent, I respect it. However, allegations of this sort are the wrong time to do so. Stand up for Mike Richards and his job-related drug problems, please. Please don't play the "innocent until proven guilty" card, it's a farce. Finally, allegations like this should always be taken with the utmost seriousness. Yeah, it's nice to trot out the UVA thing. However, most sexual assaults go unreported, and most that are reported are either not taken seriously OR not prosecuted for one reason or another. Sexual assault is not a new problem - it's not only a problem for athletes either - it is part of the basic and underlying oppression of women in our society. An oppression that is made possible by centuries of the cards being stacked against them.

Like I said, I get what you are trying to do here, but choose your moments to stand up for the athlete more carefully.
- ritns028

Woah, man. Nice.

Sooo....Any Blackhawks rumours?
- AlfieFever

Funny you ask.

THIS JUST IN: First LTIR, now a rape charge. The Defending Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks are finding all kinds of ways to circumvent the cap".

Adam Proteau @Proteautype
Patrick Kane has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Women have the right to be presumed honest until proven otherwise.

Funny you ask.

THIS JUST IN: First LTIR, now a rape charge. The Defending Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks are finding all kinds of ways to circumvent the cap".
- blackhawk24

More importantly, how did you get to post in red letters?

Eklund: Some Stories Need To Be Waited On...Respect that. Podcast 1pm
- Eklund

Weren't you the one speculating about Belak's death saying it wasn't suicide etc before there had been an official release?

Of all the things to be accused of, this is "In the Red".
Would you want him to play games before there's a resolution? I could only imagine what a rival team & their crowds would say. It would be a huge distraction.
- jmo16

That's not my decision to make. What he deals with on the ice as a result is something he is going to have to deal with. Just stating that the court is unlikely to hinder his employment.

Now if I was in the owners position it would be a different issue.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype
Patrick Kane has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Women have the right to be presumed honest until proven otherwise.
- Fruitcakenipple

Not sure why he needed that second part, unless he is implying she is a liar.

Woah, man. Nice.

- SolidGoldBricks

I'm glad he's getting support for that post. With the meat head population around here being what it is, posts like "hey, maybe not all rape accusers are liars" tend to get shot down pretty quickly. Good on him.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype
Patrick Kane has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Women have the right to be presumed honest until proven otherwise.
- Fruitcakenipple

Right on!

Not sure why he needed that second part, unless he is implying she is a liar.
- ImThatGuy

I think he included that because this isn't the first time we've seen an athlete accused of something like this and we know what usually happens to the accuser.

Maybe in the spirit we can make up Kane trade rumours.

Adam Proteau @Proteautype
Patrick Kane has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Women have the right to be presumed honest until proven otherwise.
- Fruitcakenipple

And both should be investigated and prosecuted criminally if proven guilty.

Drug beef?

I think it's a little naive to think that all the actual facts will ever come out. Only 2 people know what happened and maybe not even then if alcohol or other substances were involved. I'm not saying what exactly happened; just that something did, or we wouldn't be where we are now.