No. Absolutely not. Charges were dropped, but this article suggests a serious screw-up by the cops! Requiring that a victim CALL her assaulter and then questioning her credibility because she didn't want to? That's NUTS! Absolutely NUTS!
- ritns028

An investigation should have been opened up of perjury against the women if sufficient evidence existed. The seriousness of the crime goes both ways.

Nope, she's a she so it's perfectly okay to cry wolf looking for $$$
- Pens_Burgh

Jeez, women have it pretty easy these days, right? They're voting, they're in the workplace, they get to make false sexual assault accusations and have their entire sexual history publicly scrutinized in a courtroom. Must be nice.

Well said Ek

"UPDATE (12:56 PM): The Buffalo News reports:

Patrick Kane, the star player of the Chicago Blackhawks who grew up in South Buffalo, is the target of a rape investigation by Hamburg police for an incident that occurred over the last weekend, two law enforcement sources have told The Buffalo News.

A local woman has accused Kane of a sexual assault, the sources said. The law enforcement sources said that the woman went to a hospital and that tests using a rape kit were performed. Kane, 26, has a home in Hamburg. He has not been charged with any crime."

just more hearsay noise...

"UPDATE (12:56 PM): The Buffalo News reports:

Patrick Kane, the star player of the Chicago Blackhawks who grew up in South Buffalo, is the target of a rape investigation by Hamburg police for an incident that occurred over the last weekend, two law enforcement sources have told The Buffalo News.

A local woman has accused Kane of a sexual assault, the sources said. The law enforcement sources said that the woman went to a hospital and that tests using a rape kit were performed. Kane, 26, has a home in Hamburg. He has not been charged with any crime."

just more hearsay noise...
- Stu17

Respect the mantra.......

Whatever prison term Doughty was looking at, that woman should have served.
- jfkst1

(frank)ing right.

Not reporting what is known -- whether as-yet-unproven allegations or proven legal conclusions -- is a journalistic failure. That's why qualifying words are added to reports: for accuracy. Failure to report information that comes to light and describe it for what it is (e.g., unfounded accusation, supportable conclusion, etc.) is ignorance.

An investigation should have been opened up of perjury against the women if sufficient evidence existed. The seriousness of the crime goes both ways.
- jfkst1

You're just plain wrong about this. The seriousness of perjury in this regard does not approach the seriousness of violating someone's physical body. You're just wrong.

You're just plain wrong about this. The seriousness of perjury in this regard does not approach the seriousness of violating someone's physical body. You're just wrong.
- ritns028

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Of course, if someone is falsely accused of rape and does serve time in prison for it there is a good chance they might also have their body physically violated.

You're just plain wrong about this. The seriousness of perjury in this regard does not approach the seriousness of violating someone's physical body. You're just wrong.
- ritns028

How am I wrong? Rape is a very serious crime. Accusation of rape is a very serious charge. It's not one that should come without an understanding of a thorough legal investigation. Unless of course you are under the very naive impression that no one would ever make such an accusation falsely with an ulterior motivation.

You're just plain wrong about this. The seriousness of perjury in this regard does not approach the seriousness of violating someone's physical body. You're just wrong.
- ritns028

What if that perjury put the person in jail for 10-15 years. Took away his livelihood, cost him whatever relationships he was in?

How am I wrong? Rape is a very serious crime. Accusation of rape is a very serious charge. It's not one that should come without an understanding of a thorough legal investigation. Unless of course you are under the very naive impression that no one would ever make such an accusation falsely with an ulterior motivation.
- jfkst1

The problem with what you're suggesting (regarding the Doughty case) is that, unless I misunderstood the article, it was never proven that she made the whole thing up. Investigations like that can fall apart due to a ton of different circumstances (lack of evidence, hazy details from the accuser, etc.) and being cleared isn't necessarily the same as being innocent. So, just like you wouldn't want Doughty put away without proof of an offense, you can't punish the accuser unless there's proof of a false accusation.

The problem with what you're suggesting (regarding the Doughty case) is that, unless I misunderstood the article, it was never proven that she made the whole thing up. Investigations like that can fall apart due to a ton of different circumstances (lack of evidence, hazy details from the accuser, etc.) and being cleared isn't necessarily the same as being innocent. So, just like you wouldn't want Doughty put away without proof of an offense, you can't punish the accuser unless there's proof of a false accusation.
- Jeffmt

Which is why I said if sufficient evidence exists, the woman should be charged with perjury. And if sufficient evidence exists to convict her of that, then she should receive the same prison time Doughty would have been facing.

Which is why I said if sufficient evidence exists, the woman should be charged with perjury. And if sufficient evidence exists to convict her of that, then she should receive the same prison time Doughty would have been facing.
- jfkst1

I foresee some issues with this.

How am I wrong? Rape is a very serious crime. Accusation of rape is a very serious charge. It's not one that should come without an understanding of a thorough legal investigation. Unless of course you are under the very naive impression that no one would ever make such an accusation falsely with an ulterior motivation.
- jfkst1

I am under no such impression. However, most of your posts on this matter are explicit in their bent towards the man in the situation. The reason that you are wrong is because you have consistently suggested that the woman in any of these cases is a liar, or a money grubber, or some other nefarious type. The reality is that these women likely will never get a fair day in court. This is why you are wrong. Not because you are evil, or bad, or anything like that - I don't know you - but because what you have written today contributes to the reasons that women are not safe in coming forward with such charges, are not taken seriously when they do, and are made to be victims for a second time by our misogynistic society.

Lets all remember who this is.....Patrick Kane, you're trying to tell me some random girl got raped by a multi millionaire who can get almost any girl with his status. My guess this girl is looking for a pay day like every other girl who has made this claim about a professional athlete.

What if that perjury put the person in jail for 10-15 years. Took away his livelihood, cost him whatever relationships he was in?
- stormey

I don't care. What if the rape he committed and was never charged for because a woman was afraid to confront her abuser makes it impossible for her to ever be in a relationship?, hold a steady job? not be afraid in her daily life?, not feel like she "deserved" it?

I am under no such impression. However, most of your posts on this matter are explicit in their bent towards the man in the situation. The reason that you are wrong is because you have consistently suggested that the woman in any of these cases is a liar, or a money grubber, or some other nefarious type. The reality is that these women likely will never get a fair day in court. This is why you are wrong. Not because you are evil, or bad, or anything like that - I don't know you - but because what you have written today contributes to the reasons that women are not safe in coming forward with such charges, are not taken seriously when they do, and are made to be victims for a second time by our misogynistic society.
- ritns028

Your last sentence reveals your bias.

I don't care. What if the rape he committed and was never charged for because a woman was afraid to confront her abuser makes it impossible for her to ever be in a relationship?, hold a steady job? not be afraid in her daily life?, not feel like she "deserved" it?
- ritns028

I never said either was good. But there has to be serious repercussions for false accusations.

Your last sentence reveals your bias.
- jfkst1

I have not hidden that at all. Go back and read my first post... I've been making the same claim all along. So have you - you just think that you don't have an opinion because you've been taught not to.

I never said either was good. But there has to be serious repercussions for false accusations.
- stormey

Exactly. It has to go both ways. If Kane is guilty, send him to prison and throw away the key. He deserves it. But it has to be acknowledged that someone can be targeted for false accusations as well and there need to be consequences to prevent that.

Why should people hold off on commenting on the alleged rape investigation...???

This is America. it's not communist China.

Exactly. It has to go both ways. If Kane is guilty, send him to prison and throw away the key. He deserves it. But it has to be acknowledged that someone can be targeted for false accusations as well and there need to be consequences to prevent that.
- jfkst1

Hmmm, um, yea.

Exactly. It has to go both ways. If Kane is guilty, send him to prison and throw away the key. He deserves it. But it has to be acknowledged that someone can be targeted for false accusations as well and there need to be consequences to prevent that.
- jfkst1

But every single one of your posts is an attempt to imply that he is not guilty and that the accuser is to be scrutinized. You are following a script - you probably don't even know it. These guys are heroes, you're a man, they are men. You have things in common. You, yourself probably fear that someday someone could make an accusation against you? It's logical. But everything you are writing is coming from a position of indirectly absolving the man of any wrongdoing.

I read on Facebook that Kiefer Sutherland was somehow involved and that he is blaming his alcoholism for anything that might happen to him.