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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:11 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/James-Tanner/Rushing-Players-Is-a-Myth-Strome-Should-Be-on-the-Coyotes-Next-Season/200/70461
- Crimsoninja


He'll be back in Erie
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 15 @ 9:44 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/James-Tanner/Rushing-Players-Is-a-Myth-Strome-Should-Be-on-the-Coyotes-Next-Season/200/70461
- Crimsoninja


Seems like someone just wants to spice up some boring Yotes games

He's partly right -- in order to be a top pick you have to usually possess unreal skill and mental fortitude, and many times we like to ignore the 18-19 year olds who have great success in the NHL. But the NHL is a grueling, merciless slog; it's a tough place for a kid to work on building strength and refining skills at a juncture where doing so is the difference between flaming out and having a long productive career. Tanner apparently also wants Strome slotted in as 1C....which is way too much, way too soon for a talented kid with a lot to work on. And he makes it seem as if Arizona/Las Vegas/Mogadishu's plan is to overripen him with 2 years in juniors and then half a decade in the AHL, when in reality it's probably just another season in Erie. There's a touch of the histrionics in his piece.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:50 PM ET
Tibbets, Zherdev, Rathje, Rinaldo

You're all high.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:21 PM ET
Tibbets, Zherdev, Rathje, Rinaldo

You're all high.

- hereticpride


Don't forget Ulfie.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:25 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/James-Tanner/Rushing-Players-Is-a-Myth-Strome-Should-Be-on-the-Coyotes-Next-Season/200/70461
- Crimsoninja


Yeah, look at minute eating top pair stud Luke Schenn for a prime example that there's no such thing as rushing prospects
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:32 PM ET
Tibbets, Zherdev, Rathje, Rinaldo

You're all high.

- hereticpride

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:36 PM ET
Yeah, look at minute eating top pair stud Luke Schenn for a prime example that there's no such thing as rushing prospects
- Jsaquella


Ask Kerry Huffman, Luca Sbisa, Dainius Zubrus, Aki Berg, Brian Lawton, Zach Bogosian and Adam Larsson (just to name a few)...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:44 PM ET
Ask Kerry Huffman, Luca Sbisa, Dainius Zubrus, Aki Berg, Brian Lawton, Zach Bogosian and Adam Larsson (just to name a few)...
- bmeltzer


I really thought Huffman was going to be decent. That season before the Lindros trade, he seemed to be coming along pretty well
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:52 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/James-Tanner/Rushing-Players-Is-a-Myth-Strome-Should-Be-on-the-Coyotes-Next-Season/200/70461
- Crimsoninja



randy newman, really ?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 16 @ 8:39 AM ET
Clarke, Lindros, Giroux and Snider and Howe are a toss up.

Three generational centers who have kept this franchise alive but the tough choice is between the creator or a game changing defenseman.

Giroux was drafted with the Flyers, developed with the Phantoms, a Captain, saw a Stanely Cup Final and is within the top of the league in points every season. When all is said and done, he'll be viewed as important as a Clarke or Lindros for the Flyers.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 10:09 AM ET
Clarke, Lindros, Giroux and Snider and Howe are a toss up.

Three generational centers who have kept this franchise alive but the tough choice is between the creator or a game changing defenseman.

Giroux was drafted with the Flyers, developed with the Phantoms, a Captain, saw a Stanely Cup Final and is within the top of the league in points every season. When all is said and done, he'll be viewed as important as a Clarke or Lindros for the Flyers.

- SuperSchennBros

Flyers Mt Rushmore: Ed Snider, Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent, Keith Allen
Players only: Clarke, Parent, Eric Lindros, Mark Howe

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
Flyers Mt Rushmore: Ed Snider, Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent, Keith Allen
Players only: Clarke, Parent, Eric Lindros, Mark Howe

- BiggE

ditto
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Aug 16 @ 10:22 AM ET
Flyers Mt Rushmore: Ed Snider, Bobby Clarke, Bernie Parent, Keith Allen
Players only: Clarke, Parent, Eric Lindros, Mark Howe

- BiggE

Hexy will carve out his image with his stick
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, look at minute eating top pair stud Luke Schenn for a prime example that there's no such thing as rushing prospects
- Jsaquella

do you honestly think Luke Schenn would be an minute eating top pair stud if he spent 2 more years playing junior hockey?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
do you honestly think Luke Schenn would be an minute eating top pair stud if he spent 2 more years playing junior hockey?
- Crimsoninja



GOOD QUESTION



NEXT QUESTION
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 16 @ 5:21 PM ET
do you honestly think Luke Schenn would be an minute eating top pair stud if he spent 2 more years playing junior hockey?
- Crimsoninja


Nope, but I also think he'd be a very solid, no questions asked top 4 guy if he had
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:33 PM ET
Nope, but I also think he'd be a very solid, no questions asked top 4 guy if he had
- Jsaquella

Tanner lays it all out pretty clear, IMHO


*didnt read it*
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
Tanner lays it all out pretty clear, IMHO


*didnt read it*

- Crimsoninja


He did, and yes in some cases, a kid can handle going right from the junior or NCAA ranks and have success in the NHL. More often than not, they can not. Look at guys like Dainius Zubrus or Luca Sbisa. They came in, were not ready, got bounced around and developed bad habits and struggled to reach their full potential-even though Zubrus had a solid NHL career.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 6:17 PM ET
He did, and yes in some cases, a kid can handle going right from the junior or NCAA ranks and have success in the NHL. More often than not, they can not. Look at guys like Dainius Zubrus or Luca Sbisa. They came in, were not ready, got bounced around and developed bad habits and struggled to reach their full potential-even though Zubrus had a solid NHL career.
- Jsaquella

i typed out a response but deleted

defending a stance that is basically 85% gimmick is too dumb even for me
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 16 @ 6:29 PM ET
i typed out a response but deleted

defending a stance that is basically 85% gimmick is too dumb even for me

- Crimsoninja



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