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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
A good blog could be written about your meds, and why you need to start taking them again.
- golfingsince


Good blogs don't necessarily sell. Outlandish blogs that make little to no sense followed by page after page of ridiculous, nonsensical statements do. We're still here replying, aren't we?

You think Tanner cares that we know he has no idea what he's talking about? We keep showing up. That's all that matters.
Interloper
Seattle Kraken
Location: NotWelcomeHere, NE
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
Good blogs don't necessarily sell. Outlandish blogs that make little to no sense followed by page after page of ridiculous, nonsensical statements do. We're still here replying, aren't we?

You think Tanner cares that we know he has no idea what he's talking about? We keep showing up. That's all that matters.

- mochoson


I don't feel as welcome as I should on the Blackhawks blog.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:46 PM ET
Yes there are some where holding back may be a stupid idea. But not at all? C'mon.

Proof: Every Bruins goalie spanning from Andy Moog/Reggie Lemelin to Tim Thomas/ Tuukka Rask. The Bruins burned every single young prospect netminder in the process. Hey Raycroft turned out O....No. No he didn't. Hey worked for Mason in Columbus to...nope. Fraid' not.

I bet throwing Zboril to the wolves is probably a good idea in your mind too.

You know I bet if the Leafs just burned a year of Nylanders ELC that would have really helped the kid and they would have easily made the playoffs. It's OK guys, Tanner says its a myth.

Another retannered blog from the master Retan himself. Smoke another rock you crack victim.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
James Tanner: Rushing Players Is a Myth: Strome Should Be a Coyotes Opening Night
The Coyotes need to go young and quit being so cautious.

- James_Tanner

Josh Bailey
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yes there are some where holding back may be a stupid idea. But not at all? C'mon.

Proof: Every Bruins goalie spanning from Andy Moog/Reggie Lemelin to Tim Thomas/ Tuukka Rask. The Bruins burned every single young prospect netminder in the process. Hey Raycroft turned out O....No. No he didn't. Hey worked for Mason in Columbus to...nope. Fraid' not.

I bet throwing Zboril to the wolves is probably a good idea in your mind too.

You know I bet if the Leafs just burned a year of Nylanders ELC that would have really helped the kid and they would have easily made the playoffs. It's OK guys, Tanner says its a myth.

Another retannered blog from the master Retan himself. Smoke another rock you crack victim.

- glove_was_stuck

This is some high quality blog here.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yes there are some where holding back may be a stupid idea. But not at all? C'mon.

Proof: Every Bruins goalie spanning from Andy Moog/Reggie Lemelin to Tim Thomas/ Tuukka Rask. The Bruins burned every single young prospect netminder in the process. Hey Raycroft turned out O....No. No he didn't. Hey worked for Mason in Columbus to...nope. Fraid' not.

I bet throwing Zboril to the wolves is probably a good idea in your mind too.

You know I bet if the Leafs just burned a year of Nylanders ELC that would have really helped the kid and they would have easily made the playoffs. It's OK guys, Tanner says its a myth.

Another retannered blog from the master Retan himself. Smoke another rock you crack victim.

- glove_was_stuck


Desperation to think outside the box regardless of how ridiculous it is.
It's actually an easy sell for him as he can just put it down to the rest of us being followers, while he's willing to accept new ideas.

but the problem isn't that his ideas are wrong, it's that he doesn't understand the nuances of the game well enough to see it

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:17 PM ET
And nylander would've been a mess in Toronto last year
belgrave
Joined: 07.26.2014

Aug 17 @ 3:01 PM ET
I love how mean uniformed people are. I guarantee that you have a) never seen Leddy play and b) have no idea how good he is.
- James_Tanner


You honestly think Leddy > Weber? Weber offers so much more than Leddy it's not even close. The problem with corsi or fenwick is that it puts too much of an emphasis on the transition game. IMO that is what it is ultimately measuring. While I would concede that Leddy is a better puck mover than Weber, Shea is so much stronger in the D zone or in the O zone than Leddy which is why he is simply the better player. There is a reason why despite his weaker possession numbers, Shea will be more likely to end up with a better +/- more goals and more effective PK time than Leddy.

This is because although Shea is not a great breakout passer, his incredible D-zone skills, preventing opponents from getting rebounds, his incredible shot, broot force and overall hockey IQ will make him a top 10 d-man in the NHL.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
You honestly think Leddy > Weber? Weber offers so much more than Leddy it's not even close. The problem with corsi or fenwick is that it puts too much of an emphasis on the transition game. IMO that is what it is ultimately measuring. While I would concede that Leddy is a better puck mover than Weber, Shea is so much stronger in the D zone or in the O zone than Leddy which is why he is simply the better player. There is a reason why despite his weaker possession numbers, Shea will be more likely to end up with a better +/- more goals and more effective PK time than Leddy.

This is because although Shea is not a great breakout passer, his incredible D-zone skills, preventing opponents from getting rebounds, his incredible shot, broot force and overall hockey IQ will make him a top 10 d-man in the NHL.

- belgrave

Leddy isn't even a superior breakout passer than weber as He struggles against the forecheck and is extremely weak in his own end.
He's certainly the better pick carrier through the neutral zone, but without space and time do so, even that becomes moot. While weber is capable of creating that time and space for himself.

Leddy being better than weber is laughable on so many levels
dannydaoust
Anaheim Ducks
Location: OH
Joined: 01.04.2015

Aug 17 @ 4:50 PM ET
Guys,

I think what everyone is missing is this: If Tanner doesn't post this crap and get a rise out of all of you....he no longer has a blog to post. Go check out his other blogs that onl relate to his opinion of the Yotes without involving other teams or players....5 replies versus 190; and out of the 5, 3 are from him and 1 of them from the other account he logs in under.

If we want this guy to stop posting crap like this and his Corsi nonesense, we simply don't reply just to tell him how wrong he is, just so he can throw a 10 game sample size of corsi or whatever crap he decides to use that day.

"What about when the Oilers win three of the next five Cups? What then?" Probably the funniest thing i've read or saw on the net since one of Tanner's last blogs...
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 5:24 PM ET
Leddy isn't even a superior breakout passer than weber as He struggles against the forecheck and is extremely weak in his own end.
He's certainly the better pick carrier through the neutral zone, but without space and time do so, even that becomes moot. While weber is capable of creating that time and space for himself.

Leddy being better than weber is laughable on so many levels

- HB77

To be fair, I think Leddy was one of the top 20 defensemen in the league last season. He was phenomenal both offensively and defensively, especially compared to his days on the Hawks and his genera reputation. But he's clearly not close to Shea Weber.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 5:30 PM ET
Leddy isn't even a superior breakout passer than weber as He struggles against the forecheck and is extremely weak in his own end.
He's certainly the better pick carrier through the neutral zone, but without space and time do so, even that becomes moot. While weber is capable of creating that time and space for himself.

Leddy being better than weber is laughable on so many levels

- HB77

Im in no way saying Leddy is better than Weber but I wonder if you ever watched the guy play judging by your description of his defensive play? He's our best defensive defenseman. Guy is awesome in his own end.
JakeTech19
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.20.2015

Aug 17 @ 5:41 PM ET
Until there is some sort of data or imperical evidence suggesting Leddy might be as good or better than Shea Weber, I cannot take your claims seriously James. Then again, I am not so sure you 100% believe that yourself. Might Leddy surpass Weber in the future? Maybe. But right now everything I have seen points towards Weber being the better player.

You are an enigma, James Tanner.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Aug 17 @ 6:15 PM ET
Leddy isn't even a superior breakout passer than weber as He struggles against the forecheck and is extremely weak in his own end.
He's certainly the better pick carrier through the neutral zone, but without space and time do so, even that becomes moot. While weber is capable of creating that time and space for himself.

Leddy being better than weber is laughable on so many levels

- HB77


Weber will retire some day...
Just sayin'...
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:31 PM ET
As requested
Shea Weber 15 goals, 45 points, average TOI 26min
Nick Leddy 10 goals, 37 points, TOI 20min
Yannick Weber 11 goals, 21 points, TOI 17mi
Stats don't lie, Shea is better then Nick who is better then Yannick although I'd argue that leddy is closer to Yannick then to Shea.

Are we done here?

- Pres.cup


So you're main argument is points (and you include PP points) but you don't seem to see that Weber got only 8 more points playing six more minutes per game?

Sure, there's maybe a reason for that, but you're argument is not very good here.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:33 PM ET
Careful Tanner, the more you type, the easier it is for people to realize that you have no idea what you are talking about.
- BruHAWK



And then what's going to happen? Will a bunch of uniformed anonymous "people" call me names and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
Desperation to think outside the box regardless of how ridiculous it is.
It's actually an easy sell for him as he can just put it down to the rest of us being followers, while he's willing to accept new ideas.

but the problem isn't that his ideas are wrong, it's that he doesn't understand the nuances of the game well enough to see it

- HB77



Don't forget that I am much, much smarter than you.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
Don't forget that I am much, much smarter than you.
- James_Tanner


You've somehow convinced yourself of some laughably idiotic stuff, so this comment doesn't surprise me in the least


"But I'm totally thinking outside the box!!!!"


After writing many of the dumbest quotes in hb history, you might wanna ease up on attempting to pontificate that you're smarter than anyone
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 17 @ 7:14 PM ET
Don't forget that I am much, much smarter than you.
- James_Tanner

http://www.urbandictionar...=retannered&defid=8326719
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:18 PM ET
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=retannered&defid=8326719
- rangerdanger94

James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 7:26 PM ET
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=retannered&defid=8326719
- rangerdanger94



Might be funny without the casual homophobia....but at least I'm not the only one w/ a sense of humor around here.
FlareKnight
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:27 PM ET
You've somehow convinced yourself of some laughably idiotic stuff, so this comment doesn't surprise me in the least


"But I'm totally thinking outside the box!!!!"


After writing many of the dumbest quotes in hb history, you might wanna ease up on attempting to pontificate that you're smarter than anyone

- HB77

That is one sad human being. He's spent half this comment section picking fights with people. Both a hilarious and tragic way to live.

But I suppose it keeps people commenting and helps him financially. So while tragic, it'll pay the bills.
JakeTech19
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.20.2015

Aug 17 @ 7:51 PM ET
So you're main argument is points (and you include PP points) but you don't seem to see that Weber got only 8 more points playing six more minutes per game?

Sure, there's maybe a reason for that, but you're argument is not very good here.

- James_Tanner


You have not provided a single piece of evidence supporting your claim! Don't waste your time with petty arguments. Support your thesis and tell me why Leddy is better.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 7:59 PM ET
That is one sad human being. He's spent half this comment section picking fights with people. Both a hilarious and tragic way to live.

But I suppose it keeps people commenting and helps him financially. So while tragic, it'll pay the bills.

- FlareKnight



The emphasis being on being a human. More than I can so for most of you trolls.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 17 @ 8:02 PM ET
You have not provided a single piece of evidence supporting your claim! Don't waste your time with petty arguments. Support your thesis and tell me why Leddy is better.
- JakeTech19


Since when is my word not good enough? I constantly use evidence to support my claims and get called an idiot by people who's essential argument boils down to "because I said so."

So this is me, testing that style of argument out. Or I guess I could be like HB and just think that being the first one to be pious and condescending wins an argument. Or I could ignore obvious irony and rant for a half an hour about what a piece of crap I am. Whatever you want, your call.
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