Refusing to bottom out will be the undoing of this "rebuild"

Welcome to mediocrity
- TheGame316

It's the only thing most canuck fans know. Any suggested divergence from mediocrity is met with ridicule on these boards.

Most fans on here want to keep things just the way they always have been. Change is scary.

That 1st goal by linden was one of my favorite goals ever. What a performance by linden all night. We was king kong that night....best player on the planet for a game.
Linden will always be a hero in my heart from that night.
Broken nose, broken ribs, obviously in great pain and performs like that.....unreal.

How did we not win.....whole team was awesome that series.

Your concern for this team is touching. Touching in the disturbing perverted way.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Hahahaha

It's the only thing most canuck fans know. Any suggested divergence from mediocrity is met with ridicule on these boards.

Most fans on here want to keep things just the way they always have been. Change is scary.
- bloatedmosquito

I get the impression that most fans, on here at least, are in favour of a tear down.

I get the impression that most fans, on here at least, are in favour of a tear down.
- CubanBuffet

I don't mind their experiment at all. Win now with an eye to the future. Some people say it's impossible, but I think that anything is possible once you get into the playoffs. At the very least our young guys will get some playoff experience.

Our owner is a wussy.
- A_SteamingLombardi

This.

I don't mind their experiment at all. Win now with an eye to the future. Some people say it's impossible, but I think that anything is possible once you get into the playoffs. At the very least our young guys will get some playoff experience.
- Gullzy

Me either. It's not like there's one sure fire route to a Cup.

I get the impression that most fans, on here at least, are in favour of a tear down.
- CubanBuffet

I am personally available to drive anyone or everyone to the airport.

Refusing to bottom out will be the undoing of this "rebuild"

Welcome to mediocrity
- TheGame316

This is such a fallacy it's not even funny. The only team, IMO, that's successfully tried to lose and it paid off for them is Pittsburgh (Mario Lemieux). And furthermore, they didn't get Crosby thru losing, they won a wide open frickin lottery that any team could have won. Other teams have been bad for a few seasons during transition years but they didn't "purposely" try to lose.

Chicago, as an example had two good picks, 3rd overall in Toews and the 5th overall pick where they were lucky enough to win the lottery. Los Angeles had ONE top three pick on their two Cup teams.

Teams like the Oilers and Buffalo and the NYI have great potential, but potential means nothing until it's realized...none of them have won jack sh!t.

Canucks have had five 1st rounds picks in the past three years, including a 6th & 9th overall and they're about to get some good picks in the next three from simply hitting the end of their competitive cycle.

They need to continue to draft well and the higher picks will come as I said, an obvious tank job is idiotic because a lot more teams have won without tanking than have.

This is such a fallacy it's not even funny. The only team, IMO, that's successfully tried to lose and it paid off for them is Pittsburgh. And furthermore, they didn't get Crosby thru losing, they won a wide open frickin lottery that any team could have won. Other teams have been bad for a few seasons during transition years but they didn't "purposely" try to lose.

Chicago, as an example had two good picks, 3rd overall in Toews and the 5th overall pick where they were lucky enough to win the lottery. Los Angeles had ONE top three pick on their two Cup teams.

Teams like the Oilers and Buffalo and the NYI have great potential, but potential means nothing until it's realized...none of them have won jack sh!t.

Canucks have had five 1st rounds picks in the past three years, including a 6th & 9th overall and they're about to get some good picks in the next three from simply hitting the end of their competitive cycle.

They need to continue to draft well and the higher picks will come as I said, an obvious tank job is idiotic because a lot more teams have won without tanking than have.
- LeftCoaster

Preach on.

That wouldn't be too difficult considering how bad he played last season. Statistically speaking, wasn't he one of the worst players at his position in the entire league?
- bloatedmosquito

It could hardly get worse and if it does top 5 pick

I get the impression that most fans, on here at least, are in favour of a tear down.
- CubanBuffet

I know I am.

The Sedins I fully expect to stay. Hamhuis should be gone later this year seeing his contract is up and I don't consider Vrbata core.

Higgins Burrows have one more year and Miller is not core.

If they can find a way to move Edler too then the tear down is complete

This is such a fallacy it's not even funny. The only team, IMO, that's successfully tried to lose and it paid off for them is Pittsburgh. And furthermore, they didn't get Crosby thru losing, they won a wide open frickin lottery that any team could have won. Other teams have been bad for a few seasons during transition years but they didn't "purposely" try to lose.

Chicago, as an example had two good picks, 3rd overall in Toews and the 5th overall pick where they were lucky enough to win the lottery. Los Angeles had ONE top three pick on their two Cup teams.

Teams like the Oilers and Buffalo and the NYI have great potential, but potential means nothing until it's realized...none of them have won jack sh!t.

Canucks have had five 1st rounds picks in the past three years, including a 6th & 9th overall and they're about to get some good picks in the next three from simply hitting the end of their competitive cycle.

They need to continue to draft well and the higher picks will come as I said, an obvious tank job is idiotic because a lot more teams have won without tanking than have.
- LeftCoaster

Exactly. Tanking does not equal securing a generational talent or playoff success.
As I've said before, we used to comain about holding onto the core of this team for too long, now we have a decisive decision maker (who may not always get it right), but is at least making changes, keeping the team competitive and allowing space for a prospect or 2 to make the team each year.

This is such a fallacy it's not even funny. The only team, IMO, that's successfully tried to lose and it paid off for them is Pittsburgh. And furthermore, they didn't get Crosby thru losing, they won a wide open frickin lottery that any team could have won. Other teams have been bad for a few seasons during transition years but they didn't "purposely" try to lose.

Chicago, as an example had two good picks, 3rd overall in Toews and the 5th overall pick where they were lucky enough to win the lottery. Los Angeles had ONE top three pick on their two Cup teams.

Teams like the Oilers and Buffalo and the NYI have great potential, but potential means nothing until it's realized...none of them have won jack sh!t.

Canucks have had five 1st rounds picks in the past three years, including a 6th & 9th overall and they're about to get some good picks in the next three from simply hitting the end of their competitive cycle.

They need to continue to draft well and the higher picks will come as I said, an obvious tank job is idiotic because a lot more teams have won without tanking than have.
- LeftCoaster

Exactly. Tanking does not equal securing a generational talent or playoff success.
As I've said before, we used to comain about holding onto the core of this team for too long, now we have a decisive decision maker (who may not always get it right), but is at least making changes, keeping the team competitive and allowing space for a prospect or 2 to make the team each year.

dbl toilet post

I know I am.

The Sedins I fully expect to stay. Hamhuis should be gone later this year seeing his contract is up and I don't consider Vrbata core.

Higgins Burrows have one more year and Miller is not core.

If they can find a way to move Edler too then the tear down is complete
- VANTEL

As I said above, the team is going to get bad for a few years thru natural attrition of the older players, that's when they'll get a few top five picks. Which are needed to compete for a Stanley Cup.

As I said above, the team is going to get bad for a few years thru natural attrition of the older players, that's when they'll get a few top five picks. Which are needed to compete for a Stanley Cup.
- LeftCoaster

One of my favourite players for years has been Burrows, but everything has an expiration date. I hope one day they give him a job with the team , but as a player here his time is coming to an end. Thanks for the years of service.

I know sometimes I use the word tank and talk about top 5. I think it is incorrect how I state it. I want change and upgrade. I don't mind losing to get the players needed to win. I don't want a team of passive , safe players. I want bite ( not a Burrows pun) , energy , and skill. This current roster can not provide that. So I want change.

One of my favourite players for years has been Burrows, but everything has an expiration date. I hope one day they give him a job with the team , but as a player here his time is coming to an end. Thanks for the years of service.

I know sometimes I use the word tank and talk about top 5. I think it is incorrect how I state it. I want change and upgrade. I don't mind losing to get the players needed to win. I don't want a team of passive , safe players. I want bite ( not a Burrows pun) , energy , and skill. This current roster can not provide that. So I want change.
- VANTEL

I want it too...in the worst way. It'll come, but it needs to be done over time, it's already started.

I want it too...in the worst way. It'll come, but it needs to be done over time, it's already started.
- LeftCoaster

I realize that now. Like I said 4 or 5 more players to be moved then it's done.

Sedins are going nowhere.they will be the anchor as the team changes personnel

Thanks! Hey, Pittsburgh's here!
- CubanBuffet

The poster child for underachievement!

That 1st goal by linden was one of my favorite goals ever. What a performance by linden all night. We was king kong that night....best player on the planet for a game.
Linden will always be a hero in my heart from that night.
Broken nose, broken ribs, obviously in great pain and performs like that.....unreal.

How did we not win.....whole team was awesome that series.
- SMBDragon

- 1970vintage

Is that lafayette?

Ya that was a half an inch away from in.
Gelina also wide open net, ronning, linden, hedican, bure put it across goal line twice..... the hockey gods were just not tipping their hat that night.

Vancouver has wanted linden at the helm since his retirement..... and that night is what secured the team presidency

Where are the Jay fans today?

Where are the Jay fans today?
- VANTEL

lol...receeding as reality sets in...

Where are the Jay fans today?
- VANTEL