dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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I can't see us coming anywhere near a playoff spot without a massive upgrade to the defense - MattFreaknEllis
The East is weak.
I see them making 2 moves like the Islanders did last year right before the season starts. |
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The Islanders who were/are on the up and up wanted zero to do with Moulson going forward. He was moved off of JT's line and as a result became an asset not worth keeping.
Just saying. - dadeadhead
I think the Isles got rid of him because they were "upgrading" him to Vanek for their playoff push |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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The East is weak.
I see them making 2 moves like the Islanders did last year right before the season starts. - dadeadhead
If they can pull of what the isles did (or at least equivelant talent wise) i'll jump on the playoff bandwagon. Tall order though. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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I think the Isles got rid of him because they were "upgrading" him to Vanek for their playoff push - MattFreaknEllis
They moved him off JT's line which led him to being much less effective(AKA replaceable).
Rumor he wanted 7 mil a year
They thought they could get Vanek to sign for that kind of money.
They had an internal cap and couldn't afford to keep Moulson and Vanek on that team during that season.
Moulson was a UFA and Darcy knew he could move him at the deadline for more future assets(Which Murray ultimately did), he wasn't the key piece in the deal. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Is that made from foods he cannot reach in the refrigerator ? - cabin
The meat of microwaved chickenwings.
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They moved him off JT's line which led him to being much less effective(AKA replaceable).
Rumor he wanted 7 mil a year
They thought they could get Vanek to sign for that kind of money.
They had an internal cap and couldn't afford to keep Moulson and Vanek on that team during that season.
Moulson was a UFA and Darcy knew he could move him at the deadline for more future assets(Which Murray ultimately did), he wasn't the key piece in the deal. - dadeadhead
Not sure what went down with the Islanders I didn't follow that situation very closely. On a good team, he's a solid complimentary player especially when given a good center. I think he is important for OUR team going forward, regardless of his role with the Isles. You think he's third line, I think he's a second liner. If he is a third line forward, then yes I agree he won't be as useful for us |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Not sure what went down with the Islanders I didn't follow that situation very closely. On a good team, he's a solid complimentary player especially when given a good center. I think he is important for OUR team going forward, regardless of his role with the Isles. You think he's third line, I think he's a second liner. If he is a third line forward, then yes I agree he won't be as useful for us - MattFreaknEllis
I said in a year or 2 he'll be a 3rd liner on this team.
If we weren't 2 top rw's short he'd be the 3rd best option on the left side behind Kane and Ennis. |
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kingcong39
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Location: albany, NY Joined: 02.21.2007
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A general comment on all the Moulson talk: why do so many seem to still be in the mindset of what a 3rd line player 'should' be?
To me, those days are fading fast if not gone all together.
The need for a checking line is a thing of the past.
You need 3 full lines that are strong at possession and are strong all over the ice.
That means scoring as well.
Ideally you'd like your 4th line to be strong all over the ice and at posession while being able to chip in from time to time on offense. |
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A general comment on all the Moulson talk: why do so many seem to still be in the mindset of what a 3rd line player 'should' be?
To me, those days are fading fast if not gone all together.
The need for a checking line is a thing of the past.
You need 3 full lines that are strong at possession and are strong all over the ice.
That means scoring as well.
Ideally you'd like your 4th line to be strong all over the ice and at posession while being able to chip in from time to time on offense. - kingcong39
This. I agree wholeheartedly. A guy who "hits" and not much else is generally not a very good player since you can only accumulate hits while chasing the puck |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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A general comment on all the Moulson talk: why do so many seem to still be in the mindset of what a 3rd line player 'should' be?
To me, those days are fading fast if not gone all together.
The need for a checking line is a thing of the past.
You need 3 full lines that are strong at possession and are strong all over the ice.
That means scoring as well.
Ideally you'd like your 4th line to be strong all over the ice and at posession while being able to chip in from time to time on offense. - kingcong39
Yes, however guys who play a 3rd line role but get paid like a 2nd liner seem to always find their way out the door sooner than later.
Matt Moulson is still the 3rd highest paid forward on this team. Realistically he's the 8th or 9th best forward on a cup team.
Him on a 5 year deal until he's 36 is bad cap management. Period |
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Tonight's Bills drinking game
Shot every time a Bill goes down with an injury
god speed |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Tonight's Bills drinking game
Shot every time a Bill goes down with an injury
god speed - Buffalo--Sabres
Better yet watch something else. |
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yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY Joined: 02.21.2011
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Yes, however guys who play a 3rd line role but get paid like a 2nd liner seem to always find their way out the door sooner than later.
Matt Moulson is still the 3rd highest paid forward on this team. Realistically he's the 8th or 9th best forward on a cup team.
Him on a 5 year deal until he's 36 is bad cap management. Period - sbroads24
Everyone is just assuming he's going to be bad in 2 years. he could play the justin williams role on the kings..Role scorer.
Every post is negative about something..you never know some players could surprise people |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Everyone is just assuming he's going to be bad in 2 years. he could play the justin williams role on the kings..Role scorer.
Every post is negative about something..you never know some players could surprise people - yen6d1
You can already see his skills starting to erode though. |
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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You can already see his skills starting to erode though. - dadeadhead
have to wonder how much was there in the first place.
Underselling the Tavares effect, see Parenteau. |
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yen6d1
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: maxim Afinogenov, NY Joined: 02.21.2011
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You can already see his skills starting to erode though. - dadeadhead
Idk the Last two years have been so bad it's hard to judge a player that was apart of it..If he bombs this year then sure. But he had 41 points on the worst offense in the league, I wouldn't be disappointed if he puts up 50 which is very possible. I hear your point just saying he could excel this year from last |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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have to wonder how much was there in the first place.
Underselling the Tavares effect, see Parenteau. - Sabresfan-365
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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He's always been one of my favorite players in the league. Total class act. - HonkFortheGoose
Johnny Gaudreau, tyler johnson ...
he use to be a class act but he became a cry baby |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I'd be down for a hockeybuzz fantasy football league if enough wanna do it - jdfitz77
i'm down |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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A general comment on all the Moulson talk: why do so many seem to still be in the mindset of what a 3rd line player 'should' be?
To me, those days are fading fast if not gone all together.
The need for a checking line is a thing of the past.
You need 3 full lines that are strong at possession and are strong all over the ice.
That means scoring as well.
Ideally you'd like your 4th line to be strong all over the ice and at posession while being able to chip in from time to time on offense. - kingcong39
Agreed Kong . Pretty much the difference between the lines is the amount of ice time. I would rather have 3 lines that score and score often. Some will have better nights vs different teams. We have seen that more than often in the past. |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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i'm down - gerbe75pts
I think I just heard your microwave "BEEP" |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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i'm down - gerbe75pts
Why not , only negative is my true identity would be relieved
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I think I just heard your microwave "BEEP" - cabin
i can cook now don't need it |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Why not , only negative is my true identity would be relieved
- hubie
Batman? |
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Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Joined: 10.15.2007
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I used to laugh my ass off when Tyrod (Tie-Rod) played at Va. Tech.
What were Mr and Mrs Taylor thinking ? |
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