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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/4-names-that-could-surprise-at-canucks-training-camp/

you might like to read this...

- kaptaan


Interesting, although I think those 4 will be hard pressed to break into the big club.

Cassels may have the best chance, but I'm thinking at least a year in Utica. I can honestly say I've never heard of Blomstrand, but to go from ECHL to NHL would be a major accomplishment
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 20 @ 10:05 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/4-names-that-could-surprise-at-canucks-training-camp/

you might like to read this...

- kaptaan


Saw that earlier but there really isn't a lot there. Saying they might surprise, but the only one that really has much of a chance to see any NHL icetime soon is Grenier.

Cassels, MacKenze and Blomstrand have yet to play an AHL game. I am guessing they will have to show what they can do there before they see any regular season ice time. Unless Cassels really shines and gets a shot at 4th line c.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 20 @ 10:37 PM ET
http://thehockeywriters.com/4-names-that-could-surprise-at-canucks-training-camp/

you might like to read this...

- kaptaan




The guy who posted all in caps might be my new favourite person.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 20 @ 11:04 PM ET
The guy who posted all in caps might be my new favourite person.
- CubanBuffet


He went off. Not sure if that was drunk posting or passion?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Aug 20 @ 11:23 PM ET
He went off. Not sure if that was drunk posting or passion?
- hillbillydeluxe


It was drunk passion, with a whole lotta stupid.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Aug 20 @ 11:43 PM ET
It was drunk passion, with a whole lotta stupid.
- CubanBuffet

Maybe that scout he talked to was Ron delorme. And Ron drove him insane after the rambling guy realized delorme was working as an nhl scout and didn't have a clue...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 21 @ 2:11 AM ET
This is why I love this woman. The rest of you back off!
- VanHockeyGuy

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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
Good read, validates what most of us have been bantering about.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...of-acquiring-elite-talent
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
Shea Theodore....why didn't Benning ask for this kid in the Kesler transaction I'll never know...or maybe he did and they said "get bent"?


In reply, I'm sure Theodore was on Bennings mind. No way ANA was giving him up. BM had Benning over a barrel. With only 1 team to trade with BM knew he would have the advantage on Benning.

We got 2 serviceable players and the worst of 2 1sts. Sbisa isn't as bad as everyone says. But I wasn't clamouring for him. Theodore and the late 1st would been enough for me. But, its all up to McCann now.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
Shea Theodore....why didn't Benning ask for this kid in the Kesler transaction I'll never know...or maybe he did and they said "get bent"?


In reply, I'm sure Theodore was on Bennings mind. No way ANA was giving him up. BM had Benning over a barrel. With only 1 team to trade with BM knew he would have the advantage on Benning.

We got 2 serviceable players and the worst of 2 1sts. Sbisa isn't as bad as everyone says. But I wasn't clamouring for him. Theodore and the late 1st would been enough for me. But, its all up to McCann now.

- storm88

Exactly. Pretty Sure Bonino and Sbisa were not his first inquiries too. I heard benning originally inquired on DSP, and/or Etem and Rakell. ANA was not moving Etem and Rakell. So we ended up with Bonino/Sutter and McCann for the clown show that was Kesler. We did just fine with Sutter here now and McCann coming in.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:28 PM ET
Exactly. Pretty Sure Bonino and Sbisa were not his first inquiries too. I heard benning originally inquired on DSP, and/or Etem and Rakell. ANA was not moving Etem and Rakell. So we ended up with Bonino/Sutter and McCann for the clown show that was Kesler. We did just fine with Sutter here now and McCann coming in.
- LordHumungous



I am very curious to how Sbisa plays this year without KB and how the Ducks D looks with him. I believe they took a step back.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
I am very curious to how Sbisa plays this year without KB and how the Ducks D looks with him. I believe they took a step back.
- VANTEL


Kind of wondering who is going to get the bulk of Bieksa's minutes? Will Weber line up next to Hamhuis for most of the season? Will Bartkowski make much of impression? Is Corrado going to be in the press box for half the season? Which guy gets moved out first? Will anyone unexpected step up?

I am rooting for Biega. I thought he brought a lot of the style of play we lacked last season. But beyond that, just hoping with a Vrbata or Hamhuis trade, we are able to bring in a prospect or pick that turns into a top4 dman, or better. (sipping kool-aid coffee this morning)



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
Good read, validates what most of us have been bantering about.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...of-acquiring-elite-talent

- VanHockeyGuy

Canucks have been for years a very good regular season team that disappears when things get tough in the playoffs. Prust JV will help a little when it comes to playoffs. Others like Higgins Kenins Vey won't help a lick. Edler needs to find a playoff game. He can not continue to be invisible if he is our D #1
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:51 PM ET
Kind of wondering who is going to get the bulk of Bieksa's minutes? Will Weber line up next to Hamhuis for most of the season? Will Bartkowski make much of impression? Is Corrado going to be in the press box for half the season? Which guy gets moved out first? Will anyone unexpected step up?

I am rooting for Biega. I thought he brought a lot of the style of play we lacked last season. But beyond that, just hoping with a Vrbata or Hamhuis trade, we are able to bring in a prospect or pick that turns into a top4 dman, or better. (sipping kool-aid coffee this morning)

- hillbillydeluxe


IMO Canucks don't really have anyone other than Tanev. They need to fix that over the next two years. As much as some hate Sbisa he is a stop gap.

We should be looking to replace Hamhuis not extend him unless they can get very very cheap , well under what he is making now.

Edler should be traded for a younger upcoming guy , to a team that is making a run now.

Our D is in for some lean years , they need to start now to replace it.

A risky trade, but could reward us in the future is Edler for Gudbranson who has struggled but is still very young
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
IMO Canucks don't really have anyone other than Tanev. They need to fix that over the next two years. As much as some hate Sbisa he is a stop gap.

We should be looking to replace Hamhuis not extend him unless they can get very very cheap , well under what he is making now.

Edler should be traded for a younger upcoming guy , to a team that is making a run now.

Our D is in for some lean years , they need to start now to replace it.

- VANTEL


Lean years for sure, they needed to start a few seasons ago to get a new batch ready.

If they can't bring in some younger guys that are somewhat ready to step in, like they tried with Clendening, they will have to go the ufa route until someone in the system is ready to step up.

I think I'd rather trade Edler than Hamhuis. Edler can't play physical anymore, his back is wonky. Management knows we need help on d, I expect them to talk to Hamhuis and figure out if he can be resigned and go from there.

If Hamhuis walks for nothing, I guess we should count our blessings with our 2 Swiss Olympians, Weber and Sbisa.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
Lean years for sure, they needed to start a few seasons ago to get a new batch ready.

If they can't bring in some younger guys that are somewhat ready to step in, like they tried with Clendening, they will have to go the ufa route until someone in the system is ready to step up.

I think I'd rather trade Edler than Hamhuis. Edler can't play physical anymore, his back is wonky. Management knows we need help on d, I expect them to talk to Hamhuis and figure out if he can be resigned and go from there.

If Hamhuis walks for nothing, I guess we should count our blessings with our 2 Swiss Olympians, Weber and Sbisa.

- hillbillydeluxe


Edler Grenier for Pirri Gudbranson.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
He went off. Not sure if that was drunk posting or passion?
- hillbillydeluxe


Maybe he was just trying to evolve the conversation???

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
Edler Grenier for Pirri Gudbranson.
- VANTEL


I can't wait to see what JB comes up with. Just waiting on Sbisa to be traded in the second or third year of that contract and the inevitable biatching about the return that will follow.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Aug 21 @ 1:13 PM ET
Maybe he was just trying to evolve the conversation???


- rugdnit


The all caps, lack of sentence structure and paragraphs made it confusing to read. Was trying to figure out who the guy was talking about and comparing them to Alex Burrows?

Anyway, we have that MacKenze kid, don't want too many projects in the minors.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
Exactly. Pretty Sure Bonino and Sbisa were not his first inquiries too. I heard benning originally inquired on DSP, and/or Etem and Rakell. ANA was not moving Etem and Rakell. So we ended up with Bonino/Sutter and McCann for the clown show that was Kesler. We did just fine with Sutter here now and McCann coming in.
- LordHumungous

Agree.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 21 @ 1:20 PM ET
I am very curious to how Sbisa plays this year without KB and how the Ducks D looks with him. I believe they took a step back.
- VANTEL

Sbisa will be better without Bieksa and I feel bad with whoever gets paired with KB in ANA.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
The guy who posted all in caps might be my new favourite person.
- CubanBuffet

BoonerBuck?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Sbisa will be better without Bieksa and I feel bad with whoever gets paired with KB in ANA.
- Nucker101

KB makes a lot of bad decisions and pinches that leaves his partner hung out to dry. Check our record when he is out of the lineup last year.

Casual Kev
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Canucks have been for years a very good regular season team that disappears when things get tough in the playoffs. Prust JV will help a little when it comes to playoffs. Others like Higgins Kenins Vey won't help a lick. Edler needs to find a playoff game. He can not continue to be invisible if he is our D #1
- VANTEL

Kenins might show signs of playoff toughness as he gets older we'll see but yes Higgins and Vey (right now) do not help us much if we make the playoffs.

Also had high hopes for Edler but it's becoming increasingly clear he isn't going to be a big game guy especially in the PO's. Really hoping for a Hamhuis-Edler-Vrbata deal at TDL. Burrows can stick around for a bit more if needed as he is good up and down all four lines but if we are stagnant at TDL it will be time for Higgins-Hamhuis-Edler and Vrbata to git gone...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
Sbisa will be better without Bieksa and I feel bad with whoever gets paired with KB in ANA.
- Nucker101

Good news for KB in ANA is that ANA actually has a decent amount of forwards that can clear the defensive zone multiple ways...will make Bieksa look much better than he is...technically.
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