And most importantly pleased the Rogers' bean counters with 50,000 a night in the stands.
- RickJ

Wrong! I'm the most pleased as my wife, The Blue Jays biggest fan, is glued to the set six of seven nights a week, leaving me in peace and quiet!

I had heard Q changed his evil ways.
Baby.


You mean what I heard was wrong?

- savvyone-1

Q's ways work just fine!

Wrong! I'm the most pleased as my wife, The Blue Jays biggest fan, is glued to the set six of seven nights a week, leaving me in peace and quiet!
- paulr

BTW, forgot to say Hi to you Paul.
Hope your summer has gone well (other than this blemish on our CUP summer with the wayword son).

Q's ways work just fine!
- paulr

Agreed.
Just stirring up the 'nest a bit, so tired of this Kane crap.
Can't imagine what his mates think, had to really take the edge off things for them in a big way as well.

Wrong! I'm the most pleased as my wife, The Blue Jays biggest fan, is glued to the set six of seven nights a week, leaving me in peace and quiet!
- paulr

Good for her, some women love their baseball. And she probably is too busy to check out whether you have an Ashley Madison account.

Its been a while since we did a pool .

If Kane gets TRADED , big IF , IF KANE GETS traded , where do you guess he ends up ?


I'll start the guessing with the :

NEW YORK RANGERS .
- mrpaulish

Philly, for Giroux, Gostisbehere and a 2nd

Agreed.
Just stirring up the 'nest a bit, so tired of this Kane crap.
Can't imagine what his mates think, had to really take the edge off things for them in a big way as well.
- savvyone-1

I can imagine - they probably think it was a matter of time - something bad was going to happen eventually.

But to find out what Patrick Sharp is thinking about it .............

Good for her, some women love their baseball. And she probably is too busy to check out whether you have an Ashley Madison account.
- RickJ

Shush! That's why I need the quiet so I can have my piece errrr peace. Thought I saw your name floating around as well .....

Here's the thing that worries me about trying to part ways with Kane over fear of lost endorsements and team revenue if Kane is not guilty of a crime:
We as fans and the Blackhawks organization itself always hopes/wants/urges players to take a hometown discount in order to commit to winning. The organization hopes that players will take less money in order to chase a cup. However, if the Hawks have a player in Kane who is not guilty of a crime (if his name is cleared) and they want to cut ties with him due to a potential short term loss of money, then they are choosing money over winning (which is what they hope their players do the opposite of). What kind of message would this send players like Kruger, Seabrook, TT etc about loyalty and commitment to winning. We have Seabrook's extension hopefully coming up and are praying he takes a pay cut to stay and keep the dynasty core intact. But if the players are okay with Kane remaining on the team and focussing on hockey because they know what he brings to the table in the crunch times, then releasing or moving Kane for having issues with alcohol sends a very negative message to the team when it comes to dollars vs winning. This is the fear I am having and the potential snowball effect it could have. I have rarely seen a player who comes up as clutch in big time games as Kane in my whole life of being involved in hockey. If he is to guilty then I hope the team stays loyal, as many players have, and help Kane straighten out his off ice issues so he can continue to dominate on ice in ONLY the Indiana Head.

- EnzoD

Already working with the "Spin Doctors" over on Madison to get 88 squeeky clean again. Working on the Clinton apology and Gore support speeches.

Multi-player deal:
Kane: 10,500,000
Anisimov: 3,283,000 (goes to 4,550,000 following year)
Total 13,783,000 this season, 15,050,000 next season

Tavares: 5,500,000
Leddy: 5,500,000
Total 11,000,000 this season, 11,000,000 next season

Savings this year: 2,783,000 (can get Kruger signed, you have a young cost-controlled D until 2022)

Savings following year: 4,050,000

Pretty sure that trade would put you in contention for a CUP this year, solves the C problem, there's your 1a and 1b for sure, gets Kruger back into the fold. Also solves your D problem, Rundblad won't ever see NHL ice.

Big issue is Tavares is only cost controlled through 2018. But I'd take a CUP for the next 2 years and worry about losing him later.

This post should bring out the pitchforks in a big way.

- savvyone-1

Multi-player deal:
Kane: 10,500,000
Anisimov: 3,283,000 (goes to 4,550,000 following year)
Total 13,783,000 this season, 15,050,000 next season

Tavares: 5,500,000
Leddy: 5,500,000
Total 11,000,000 this season, 11,000,000 next season

Savings this year: 2,783,000 (can get Kruger signed, you have a young cost-controlled D until 2022)

Savings following year: 4,050,000

Pretty sure that trade would put you in contention for a CUP this year, solves the C problem, there's your 1a and 1b for sure, gets Kruger back into the fold. Also solves your D problem, Rundblad won't ever see NHL ice.

Big issue is Tavares is only cost controlled through 2018. But I'd take a CUP for the next 2 years and worry about losing him later.

This post should bring out the pitchforks in a big way.

- savvyone-1

If there is a deal done for Kane, which I think will happen, it will be with a team that has a proven star veteran player that they can't or don't want to re-sign. The best example I can give is with WPG. The Jets are in a position where the resigning of Byfuglien after this season is highly unlikely. So what does Chevy do? Let him walk for nothing at season's end? Again, highly unlikely. Thus, packaging up Byfuglien as the key part of the deal for a repentant Patrick Kane (saying and doing all the right things publicly), would be a no-brainer for WPG...and Chicago.

WPG is loaded with good, young players either already playing, or ready to play; thus, they could add a top talent along with Byfuglien and not have it hurt their "future". WPG would get Kane and his potential for trouble and the Hawks would get a game-changing, all star DMan who understands Q system, along with a ready to play, cost effective young forward.

So, who loses in this deal? The obvious answer would be the Hawks because they are moving Patrick Kane, a generational talent...but if the Hawks believe "they have to", then how do they lose in this deal? They could easily extend Buff with a "reasonable" 4 year $4.5 million per contract and not have to worry about the younger forward's deal for another 2 to 3 years. What the Hawks would lose in Kane's scoring and prowess in the clutch, could be compensated for by possessing the best D core in hockey, and adding a clutch DMan that can also play wing next to Toews if he had to!

THIS is the kind of deal that will occur for Kane, not an exchange straight up for Stamkos or Tavares...that will never happen. There are a few players and teams around the league who are in this position that could make a deal work with the Hawks without giving up their "best" player.

IMO, a deal for Kane that returned Byfuglien and say Adam Lowry or even prospects Ehlers or Lemeiux would be a reasonable exchange that would benefit both teams, with an equal exchange of "risk". A Hawks lineup minus Kane, but with Byfuglien and Lowry could still contend for another Cup, especially as it would mean that Crawford was in net and Seabrook was extended for another 5+ years.

Agreed.
Just stirring up the 'nest a bit, so tired of this Kane crap.
Can't imagine what his mates think, had to really take the edge off things for them in a big way as well.
- savvyone-1

May not have hit them yet at all: they've all scattered to Slovakia, Sweden, Finland, Montreal, Winnipeg, Toronto, BC - I would guess with no/almost no news about this at all.

Any repurcussions will come with the media blitz beginning with the opening of training camp.

Leo Komarov has a DUI conviction and a $52K fine to pay. The idiots in the Toronto media would normally be off their chairs with indignation about that but they have forgotten that because they are all too busy kissing the rear end of Alex Anthopoulous.
- RickJ

Komagod was framed! Plus, it wasn't a DUI - dangerous driving.

If there is a deal done for Kane, which I think will happen, it will be with a team that has a proven star veteran player that they can't or don't want to re-sign. The best example I can give is with WPG. The Jets are in a position where the resigning of Byfuglien after this season is highly unlikely. So what does Chevy do? Let him walk for nothing at season's end? Again, highly unlikely. Thus, packaging up Byfuglien as the key part of the deal for a repentant Patrick Kane (saying and doing all the right things publicly), would be a no-brainer for WPG...and Chicago.

WPG is loaded with good, young players either already playing, or ready to play; thus, they could add a top talent along with Byfuglien and not have it hurt their "future". WPG would get Kane and his potential for trouble and the Hawks would get a game-changing, all star DMan who understands Q system, along with a ready to play, cost effective young forward.

So, who loses in this deal? The obvious answer would be the Hawks because they are moving Patrick Kane, a generational talent...but if the Hawks believe "they have to", then how do they lose in this deal? They could easily extend Buff with a "reasonable" 4 year $4.5 million per contract and not have to worry about the younger forward's deal for another 2 to 3 years. What the Hawks would lose in Kane's scoring and prowess in the clutch, could be compensated for by possessing the best D core in hockey, and adding a clutch DMan that can also play wing next to Toews if he had to!

THIS is the kind of deal that will occur for Kane, not an exchange straight up for Stamkos or Tavares...that will never happen. There are a few players and teams around the league who are in this position that could make a deal work with the Hawks without giving up their "best" player.

IMO, a deal for Kane that returned Byfuglien and say Adam Lowry or even prospects Ehlers or Lemeiux would be a reasonable exchange that would benefit both teams, with an equal exchange of "risk". A Hawks lineup minus Kane, but with Byfuglien and Lowry could still contend for another Cup, especially as it would mean that Crawford was in net and Seabrook was extended for another 5+ years.
- MexicoHawk

I think it would take a little more the just Buff and Lowry to get Kane

If there is a deal done for Kane, which I think will happen, it will be with a team that has a proven star veteran player that they can't or don't want to re-sign. The best example I can give is with WPG. The Jets are in a position where the resigning of Byfuglien after this season is highly unlikely. So what does Chevy do? Let him walk for nothing at season's end? Again, highly unlikely. Thus, packaging up Byfuglien as the key part of the deal for a repentant Patrick Kane (saying and doing all the right things publicly), would be a no-brainer for WPG...and Chicago.

WPG is loaded with good, young players either already playing, or ready to play; thus, they could add a top talent along with Byfuglien and not have it hurt their "future". WPG would get Kane and his potential for trouble and the Hawks would get a game-changing, all star DMan who understands Q system, along with a ready to play, cost effective young forward.

So, who loses in this deal? The obvious answer would be the Hawks because they are moving Patrick Kane, a generational talent...but if the Hawks believe "they have to", then how do they lose in this deal? They could easily extend Buff with a "reasonable" 4 year $4.5 million per contract and not have to worry about the younger forward's deal for another 2 to 3 years. What the Hawks would lose in Kane's scoring and prowess in the clutch, could be compensated for by possessing the best D core in hockey, and adding a clutch DMan that can also play wing next to Toews if he had to!

THIS is the kind of deal that will occur for Kane, not an exchange straight up for Stamkos or Tavares...that will never happen. There are a few players and teams around the league who are in this position that could make a deal work with the Hawks without giving up their "best" player.

IMO, a deal for Kane that returned Byfuglien and say Adam Lowry or even prospects Ehlers or Lemeiux would be a reasonable exchange that would benefit both teams, with an equal exchange of "risk". A Hawks lineup minus Kane, but with Byfuglien and Lowry could still contend for another Cup, especially as it would mean that Crawford was in net and Seabrook was extended for another 5+ years.
- MexicoHawk

I buy your overall logic here but Winnipeg is a very longshot IMO. Too small a town and ownership wouldn't likely want to pay $10.5M/year or take on the bad reputation.

More likely would have to bury him in a large place accustomed to controversy with athletes - like Dallas, New York, LA, maybe Miami.

Komagod was framed! Plus, it wasn't a DUI - dangerous driving.
- Canada Cup

You got it. Komarov, Kane, Voynov, Richards, Stoll have all been framed. F'n police and media!

May not have hit them yet at all: they've all scattered to Slovakia, Sweden, Finland, Montreal, Winnipeg, Toronto, BC - I would guess with no/almost no news about this at all.

Any repurcussions will come with the media blitz beginning with the opening of training camp.
- StLBravesFan

This is a joke, right?

I think it would take a little more the just Buff and Lowry to get Kane
- SaskHawkFan

I don't think so...perhaps you are undervaluing Buff and you're not aware of Lowry's size and skills as a Centre...he played the role of 3rd line Centre last season (his first) and scored 11 goals while being a + skater. This isn't a poor return at all, and is likely what the Hawks are looking at.

I don't think so...perhaps you are undervaluing Buff and you're not aware of Lowry's size and skills as a Centre...he played the role of 3rd line Centre last season (his first) and scored 11 goals while being a + skater. This isn't a poor return at all, and is likely what the Hawks are looking at.
- MexicoHawk

These are trades that take place after legal issues are resolved?

Personally...I think the Hawks just hang on to Kane and weather this storm, hoping his play on the ice will over come the play in the media.

However, I wouldn't be shocked if he is moved. I think the destination would be FLA and Uncle Dale won't be afraid to pay for him, while other teams may lowball.

Huberdeau is still unsigned. Him, a Dman (Petrovic/Gudbranson) and a prospect (Howden/Rocco) could be a solid trade for both teams. While FLA would win that trade hands down, Hawks get a solid return for one of the top wingers in the league.

And to the people that don't want Crawford traded, keep in mind there will be an expansion draft next year. If they believe Darling can fill the net, losing him or Crawford for nothing will happen when one has to be left unprotected. Just something to think about in the plus side of trading him when they have leverage.

I don't think so...perhaps you are undervaluing Buff and you're not aware of Lowry's size and skills as a Centre...he played the role of 3rd line Centre last season (his first) and scored 11 goals while being a + skater. This isn't a poor return at all, and is likely what the Hawks are looking at.
- MexicoHawk

Kane for a 3rd line centre and Buff winnipeg would so have to add something more. i know lowry having watching his entire jr career. but Kaner is a top 5 player in this league im guessing they could get a much better offer than that. also trading him within your own division were he could kill you in the playoffs.

I see you missed the point entirely but based on some of your other posts I won't pretend to be surprised.

If I wasn't married I'd go home with the 21ish y/o cheerleader now, though at 50, I might not make it til 3am anymore.

The point is and was, me (safe bet), you (safer bet) and others don't have millions riding on not only the game they love to play but also their public personnae (lost EA endorsement being first shoe to drop).

Even if Kane is at best completely absolved this is another fine mess that could have been avoided. I saw another guy on here say it, high priced escorts exist for a reason. Might have been a better way to keep his name out of the public eye if Kaner wanted to straighten out the crook in little Kaner.

I've said before I hope nothing happened. I don't want him gone because of guilt which hasn't been proven...there is still no charge yet. I think he should go because he's an idiot. Just my opinion but how many chances do you give this guy and how much of a distraction in the clubhouse do you think this will be to the other players who have somehow managed to stay out of the press during the 3 in 6 year run.

If you said no distraction at all well you can go...
- HawkintheD

Sure you could, you are a Hawks fan, if you can make it through 3OT playoff games and go to work the next day, you can hang...........

Thanks Atomic, I did miss this one.
- Cup-Bearer

You missed it because it isn't anything. Its just them repeating alleged details, not real info.

I know his cap hit is 10.5 but didn't the hawks already pay him 7 mil signing bonus on 7/1 so even those his cap hit is 10.5. the Teams actually out of pocket would be 6.5 this year and Avg about 10 mil years 2-8?
considering about 20 teams would like to spend less then the full cap because of Rev.
If makes him easier to trade only owing 77 mil instead of 84. Wish they would have front loaded bickells contract and we only owed him 3.5 instead of 4.5. This was a mistake by bowman. Cap hit is concern for 10-15 teams, What Cash comes out of the Organization is a issue for 15-20.