Some pro contracts have riders written into them prohibiting various activities such as riding motorcycles.
- paulr

Jay Williams had one with the Bulls: didn't help much.

Patrick Kane approached the London Knights to work out with them and they asked him not to show up. if he's not charged I sure hope how quickly people will distance themselves from him teaches him something.
- paulr

Hadn't heard that news. The Hunter boys support pretty much anybody who played in their organization and they weren't altar boys themselves. Turning Kane away says quite a bit.

Hadn't heard that news. The Hunter boys support pretty much anybody who played in their organization and they weren't altar boys themselves. Turning Kane away says quite a bit.
- RickJ

Kane had better smarten up.

What kind of deals do they have in place for Bickell and/or Versteeg?

Outside of the proposed and way to early to tell Winnipeg return for Kane, what could be reasonably expected for a Kane trade if that were to happen?
- Dannyboy

As I said in a previous post, with Kane's "baggage" and rock-bottom public image, it will have an effect on what the Hawks can get in return if they choose to move him now. I strongly believe that teams like WPG that have an established "star" that they cannot or will not re-sign will be in the running for Kane. That's how the Hawks will be able to "maximize" what they get for Kane in this climate. But what must also be remembered is that part of the success factor of any deal for Kane will also be the CAP SPACE CREATED! This cannot be stated enough as the Hawks are in a real Pickle as it is.

Do you just want to see him not charged or do you want justice to prevail?
- paulr

I want justice to prevail. Justice, given all the evidence and eyewitness testimony, would appear to be no rape charges laid upon Patrick Kane.

I want justice to prevail. Justice, given all the evidence and eyewitness testimony, would appear to be no rape charges laid upon Patrick Kane.
- EnzoD

You know all the evidence and eyewitness testimony?

Kane had better smarten up.
- paulr

Actually just pulled the story up on the London paper website. When the Knights open training camp they split 80 players into 4 squads named after former greats with the team - Corey Perry, Rick Nash,Dave Bolland and Kane. They just dropped Kane and will rename his team after somebody else.

The article says: Kane will be cleared because of lack of evidence indicating a rape occurred. The alleged victim has been informed and is hysterical crying.

Investigators called the alleged victims lawyers last night , said not enough evidence to charge Kane “at this time” they will continue to investigate to see if any other leads or witnesses come forward.

I doubt the DA's office will "clear" Kane, especially looking at the second paragraph comment about "at this time" and "continue to investigate".

Again the article says: Kane and an investigator from the District Attorney’s Office recently met (report doesn’t say it was recent, but it reads as such). It would presumably be to inform Kane that there’s a lack of evidence. However, none of this has been verified.

I doubt the DA investigator would reference a lack of evidence in a conversation with a subject of the investigation.

I suspect Kane will not be charged, but also not "cleared" - the unfortunate result of most (from what I've read) rape allegations in these here United States - we will never know the truth - and Wirtz/McD/Bowman will have to make decisions with only vague and unsettled facts.
- StLBravesFan

I understand that Rape/Sexual Assault is a very difficult crime to prove in a legal sense. I understand where people that have been directly impacted by Sexual Assault can be biased and seek "Justice" in this situation. My comments may seem blinded by bias as a Hawk's fanatic(which is partially true), but really, the facts of the situation have made me so deadfast in my assertion that Kane did not commit this crime. All the information given to us thus far, whether factual or fabricated, would logically dictate that Patrick Kane did NOT rape/assault this woman. That is my point.

You know all the evidence and eyewitness testimony?
- paulr

I do not, nor does anyone on this blog. I do know that the DA and Hamburg PD have all the evidence and eyewitness testimony and are not going to charge Patrick Kane with ANY crime....according to the highly reputable SportsMockery.com of course....

I must be undervaluing Lowry because although I didn't see Winnipeg a bunch last year - I don't recall coming away thinking Lowry was anything more than a serviceable bottom-6 player. He's also on the last year of his ELC so he'll need a bump in salary the following year.

And I'd love to get Buf back but I don't think he is a stellar defender, especially now that they've tightened up Pronger-type crease clearing which Buf would be very good at.

I have no idea what kind of return Kane would bring - I'm still holding out hope that somehow he'll still be playing for the beloved - but Buf/Lowry does not "wow" me.
- EbonyRaptor

A couple of things, first, Lowry is a good skater plus he's 6'5" and 210 pounds. The young man, in his FIRST NHL SEASON (after only one year in the AHL) made a huge impression on Coach Paul Maurice, who trusted in his two way game...at 22, the young man has already demonstrated his ability to be a strong 2 way Centre, plus scored 11 goals to go with his size and speed...that's a strong acquisition in my opinion. Secondly, if the Hawks wanted to go with prospects instead, they would likely be able to add the likes of Ehlers, Morrisey or Lemeiux...this isn't chump change for Kane...and in a deal such as this the Hawks would also be creating $3.5 million in Cap space. IMO, this is a win/win situation for both teams where both are sharing an equal risk, which is an important perceived component to any trade involving Kane.

Its been a while since we did a pool .

If Kane gets TRADED , big IF , IF KANE GETS traded , where do you guess he ends up ?


I'll start the guessing with the :

NEW YORK RANGERS .
- mrpaulish

Florida Panthers

I want justice to prevail. Justice, given all the evidence and eyewitness testimony, would appear to be no rape charges laid upon Patrick Kane.
- EnzoD

You must be related to District Attorney Frank Sedita if you know all of the evidence and testimony accumulated to date.

Wait - I'll see if I'm laughing - nope, must not be a joke - just an opinion.

If you have a different one, let's hear it - instead of a snarky comment which says nothing.
- StLBravesFan

So you really think that Blackhawks players in Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg and BC haven't seen any news coverage of Kane being investigated for rape?

Or that the Blackhawk organization hasn't contacted the players to give them communications talking points (i.e., I have no comment at this time)?

Really?

Actually just pulled the story up on the London paper website. When the Knights open training camp they split 80 players into 4 squads named after former greats with the team - Corey Perry, Rick Nash,Dave Bolland and Kane. They just dropped Kane and will rename his team after somebody else.
- RickJ

Haha! Idiots on the radio reported it as if Kane had asked to work out with the Knights.

You must be related to District Attorney Frank Sedita if you know all of the evidence and testimony accumulated to date.
- ArlingtonRob

Please see above reply to Paulr's similarly sarcastic, condescending remark.

So you really think that Blackhawks players in Toronto, Montreal, Winnipeg and BC haven't seen any news coverage of Kane being investigated for rape?

Or that the Blackhawk organization hasn't contacted the players to give them communications talking points (i.e., I have no comment at this time)?

Really?
- Atomic Wedgie

I certainly think they all know about the investigation and the situation, and are concerned about Kane - but wherever they are, they aren't subjected to the rumors and leaks (and hockey blogs) like we are here.

I'm guessing they're going on with their lives, celebrating a terrific season, and enjoying their day with the Cup.

Please see above reply to Paulr's similarly sarcastic, condescending remark.
- EnzoD

Nothing at all sarcastic, you implied you knew all the evidence and eyewitness testimony. I was getting you to clarify, at which time you admitted you knew no more or less than anyone else.

Nothing at all sarcastic, you implied you knew all the evidence and eyewitness testimony. I was getting you to clarify, at which time you admitted you knew no more or less than anyone else.
- paulr

meh

Haha! Idiots on the radio reported it as if Kane had asked to work out with the Knights.
- paulr

Well he may have asked to skate there but it isn't in the story I read.

As I said in a previous post, with Kane's "baggage" and rock-bottom public image, it will have an effect on what the Hawks can get in return if they choose to move him now. I strongly believe that teams like WPG that have an established "star" that they cannot or will not re-sign will be in the running for Kane. That's how the Hawks will be able to "maximize" what they get for Kane in this climate. But what must also be remembered is that part of the success factor of any deal for Kane will also be the CAP SPACE CREATED! This cannot be stated enough as the Hawks are in a real Pickle as it is.
- MexicoHawk

Eric Stall if we deal with carolina?

Please see above reply to Paulr's similarly sarcastic, condescending remark.
- EnzoD

Considering your statement it was well deserved.

None of us know what "evidence" and "testimony" the DA and police have acquired to date. Anything leaked to the public is speculative at this point.

I'm just waiting for an official, definitive conclusion from the authorities...

...and the final decision from the Blackhawks concerning Kane's fate after the dust settles.

The sooner the better so the looming season doesn't become a distraction filled mess.

Well he may have asked to skate there but it isn't in the story I read.
- RickJ

I just read what you read.

I certainly think they all know about the investigation and the situation, and are concerned about Kane - but wherever they are, they aren't subjected to the rumors and leaks (and hockey blogs) like we are here.

I'm guessing they're going on with their lives, celebrating a terrific season, and enjoying their day with the Cup.
- StLBravesFan

Here's your original statement:

May not have hit them yet at all: they've all scattered to Slovakia, Sweden, Finland, Montreal, Winnipeg, Toronto, BC - I would guess with no/almost no news about this at all.

Any repurcussions will come with the media blitz beginning with the opening of training camp.
- StLBravesFan

No/almost no news at all?

A couple of things, first, Lowry is a good skater plus he's 6'5" and 210 pounds. The young man, in his FIRST NHL SEASON (after only one year in the AHL) made a huge impression on Coach Paul Maurice, who trusted in his two way game...at 22, the young man has already demonstrated his ability to be a strong 2 way Centre, plus scored 11 goals to go with his size and speed...that's a strong acquisition in my opinion. Secondly, if the Hawks wanted to go with prospects instead, they would likely be able to add the likes of Ehlers, Morrisey or Lemeiux...this isn't chump change for Kane...and in a deal such as this the Hawks would also be creating $3.5 million in Cap space. IMO, this is a win/win situation for both teams where both are sharing an equal risk, which is an important perceived component to any trade involving Kane.
- MexicoHawk

I like Paul Maurice - think he's a good coach and his (implied) endorsement is good to hear. But, he's still a bottom-6 guy and he would seem redundant with Anisimov who I think will probably end up being the Hawks 3C when TT is stronger and better able to handle 2C. I'd rather get Buf and a very good prospect d-man like Morrissey.

You must be related to District Attorney Frank Sedita if you know all of the evidence and testimony accumulated to date.
- ArlingtonRob

Sedita might be thinking why should he spend time and money on a criminal case like this when there will be some no brainer felonies coming up involving Buffalo Bills players which happen every year.