I think your example of trading G is off because G isn't a trade target. Streit is. He is an older player that will not be around when he is needed most and thus a trade target one the team should be looking to trade in the next 2 years (I obviously stated above I think it should happen within the next year). So if you know you are going to trade a player then I think the 'what if' injury scenario makes more sense. Sure I wouldn't rush to trade him tomorrow because of it, but if the price is right you trade him today. That's all I'm saying. The injury scenario shouldn't be the make or break but it should be factored in- maybe you take a little less today then you hoped, maybe a lower 1st rounder and/or lottery protected but there also needs to be a limit right, for example, you don't do a 2nd. So the fear of regression and injury shouldn't be the driver but I think it needs to be considered because that player should be moved prior to his UFA and his stock is currently pretty high (obviously my opinion).
- coffee junkie

I think it's very doubtful that the Flyers could get a high first round draft pick for a 37 year old defensman, now or later. I have my doubts if they can get a first round pick in return for Striet at any time.

Ok, here goes nothing. The top 10 penalty killing forwards in Flyers history!!

Honorable mentions:
Ron Sutter
Craig MacTavish
Shjon Podein
Simon Gagne
Claude Giroux

10. Terry Crisp
As we all know, the Broad Street Bullies took quite a few penalties. Crisp was one of their top pk guys and saw a lot of time on the kill. He wasn't much of a shorthanded threat, but he did a great job of forcing the puck carrier and getting the puck out of the zone.

9. Sean Couturier
Coots could end up a lot higher on this list by the time his career is over. Although he lacks speed, he has an uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time and break up plays. He's the first guy on the ice when down 2 men, and has been since he was a teenager. That folks, says a lot.

8. Sami Kapanen
The little Finn used his speed to his advantage and was a tireless worker on the PK. He was great at pressuring the point and picking off passes and seemed to get quite a few shorthanded opportunities.

7. Rick Macleish
Macleish, when motivated, excelled at every facet of the game and PK was no different. He was an extremely dangerous shorthanded threat and was very underrated both as a defensive player and as a penalty killer.

6. Mike Richards
Yeah, he's a mess today, but when he was in Philly he was a beast on the PK and always a threat to score shorthanded. Richards was a demon when it came to puck pursuit on the PK and he always kept his feet moving and played without fear.

5. Brian Propp
The master of the guffaw was also an outstanding penalty killer and routinely teamed with Dave Poulin (more on him later), to form perhaps the leagues best PK duo in the mid 80s. His positional play was excellent and he was always a shorthanded threat.

4. Rod Brind'amour
Brind'amour simply outworked the opposing pp unit. He was an ace on faceoffs and once he got the puck on his stick, he was excelled at taking it to the wall and keeping it away from the opposition.

3. Bill Barber
Barber was simply the best all around LW of his era and a fantastic penalty killer. The guy was never out of position and broke up plays with aplomb. He was also another threat to score shorthanded at any moment.

2. Dave Poulin
Poulin was simply amazing on the PK. His goal in the 85 playoffs against Quebec while 2 men short is one of the greatest in franchise history. He was arguably the best penalty killer in the NHL in the mid 80s and one of the best I ever saw.

1. Bobby Clarke
What else can you say about Clarke? He seemed to never lose a faceoff when the team was short, and he was tireless in his puck pursuit. Clarke was another shorthanded threat and never seemed to be out of position. Not only was he perhaps the finest penalty killer of his era, but he would legitimately have to be considered if they were going to make a list of the top 10 penalty killers in NHL history. Yeah, he was that good.
- BiggE

For what it's worth, Mike Richards has the NHL record for 5-on-3 SHG with 3.
Also, no Lappy in the honorable mentions?

Ok, here goes nothing. The top 10 penalty killing forwards in Flyers history!!

Honorable mentions:
Ron Sutter
Craig MacTavish
Shjon Podein
Simon Gagne
Claude Giroux

10. Terry Crisp
As we all know, the Broad Street Bullies took quite a few penalties. Crisp was one of their top pk guys and saw a lot of time on the kill. He wasn't much of a shorthanded threat, but he did a great job of forcing the puck carrier and getting the puck out of the zone.

9. Sean Couturier
Coots could end up a lot higher on this list by the time his career is over. Although he lacks speed, he has an uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time and break up plays. He's the first guy on the ice when down 2 men, and has been since he was a teenager. That folks, says a lot.

8. Sami Kapanen
The little Finn used his speed to his advantage and was a tireless worker on the PK. He was great at pressuring the point and picking off passes and seemed to get quite a few shorthanded opportunities.

7. Rick Macleish
Macleish, when motivated, excelled at every facet of the game and PK was no different. He was an extremely dangerous shorthanded threat and was very underrated both as a defensive player and as a penalty killer.

6. Mike Richards
Yeah, he's a mess today, but when he was in Philly he was a beast on the PK and always a threat to score shorthanded. Richards was a demon when it came to puck pursuit on the PK and he always kept his feet moving and played without fear.

5. Brian Propp
The master of the guffaw was also an outstanding penalty killer and routinely teamed with Dave Poulin (more on him later), to form perhaps the leagues best PK duo in the mid 80s. His positional play was excellent and he was always a shorthanded threat.

4. Rod Brind'amour
Brind'amour simply outworked the opposing pp unit. He was an ace on faceoffs and once he got the puck on his stick, he was excelled at taking it to the wall and keeping it away from the opposition.

3. Bill Barber
Barber was simply the best all around LW of his era and a fantastic penalty killer. The guy was never out of position and broke up plays with aplomb. He was also another threat to score shorthanded at any moment.

2. Dave Poulin
Poulin was simply amazing on the PK. His goal in the 85 playoffs against Quebec while 2 men short is one of the greatest in franchise history. He was arguably the best penalty killer in the NHL in the mid 80s and one of the best I ever saw.

1. Bobby Clarke
What else can you say about Clarke? He seemed to never lose a faceoff when the team was short, and he was tireless in his puck pursuit. Clarke was another shorthanded threat and never seemed to be out of position. Not only was he perhaps the finest penalty killer of his era, but he would legitimately have to be considered if they were going to make a list of the top 10 penalty killers in NHL history. Yeah, he was that good.
- BiggE

Do top 10 centers in the NHL.

Now that would be fun!

- BiggE

I'm curious to see if some people (yes, myself included) would make both lists.

For what it's worth, Mike Richards has the NHL record for 5-on-3 SHG with 3.
Also, no Lappy in the honorable mentions?
- jmatchett383

Damn, knew I'd forget someone.

An edit will be made, thanks!

Do top 10 centers in the NHL.
- benjichronic

Now or of all time?

Now or of all time?
- BiggE

Yes

I'm curious to see if some people (yes, myself included) would make both lists.
- jmatchett383

You'd be in the running for sure!

I'm curious to see if some people (yes, myself included) would make both lists.
- jmatchett383

how many posters are in this blob? can't be more than 25

Top 10...comebacks, game 7 wins, breakaway goals, breakaway saves, final game of the season (Flyers, Rangers, Boosh ), powerplay slapshots...
- wolfhounds

I'm thinking game 7 wins is gonna be next

how many posters are in this blob? can't be more than 25
- vejim

I just mean people that are frequent present-day posters, not people currently in this particular one.

Thanks Bill. In the case of Kase (no pun intended), do you think that he could become the next Danny B? If he worked hard, and Danny B was willing to work with him, he might become an interesting option for the Flyers.
Our D has become more mobile, but who are the Flyers going to lean on for physical play. Over the last few seasons, the D hasn't been able to clear out the crease. I realize that Gudas, and Schenn are physical, however I don't see them as a first line pairing (no joke intended).
I am excited to see, if broadcast in my area, the preseason games coming up soon. It will be interesting to see how Coach employs his offensive scheme, and if the forwards will be able to handle two-way play. If we lack a physical D presence this season, they will need some help in handling the bigger forwards in our zone.
In addition, under Chief the physical fitness took a leap forward, so it will be interesting who shows up in "great" physical shape this year; V-Check turned out to be the leader in that department last year.

Now or of all time?
- BiggE

Current NHL centers

I just mean people that are frequent present-day posters, not people currently in this particular one.
- jmatchett383

I am talking all time

Ok, here goes nothing. The top 10 penalty killing forwards in Flyers history!!

Honorable mentions:
Ron Sutter
Craig MacTavish
Shjon Podein
Simon Gagne
Claude Giroux

10. Terry Crisp
As we all know, the Broad Street Bullies took quite a few penalties. Crisp was one of their top pk guys and saw a lot of time on the kill. He wasn't much of a shorthanded threat, but he did a great job of forcing the puck carrier and getting the puck out of the zone.

9. Sean Couturier
Coots could end up a lot higher on this list by the time his career is over. Although he lacks speed, he has an uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time and break up plays. He's the first guy on the ice when down 2 men, and has been since he was a teenager. That folks, says a lot.

8. Sami Kapanen
The little Finn used his speed to his advantage and was a tireless worker on the PK. He was great at pressuring the point and picking off passes and seemed to get quite a few shorthanded opportunities.

7. Rick Macleish
Macleish, when motivated, excelled at every facet of the game and PK was no different. He was an extremely dangerous shorthanded threat and was very underrated both as a defensive player and as a penalty killer.

6. Mike Richards
Yeah, he's a mess today, but when he was in Philly he was a beast on the PK and always a threat to score shorthanded. Richards was a demon when it came to puck pursuit on the PK and he always kept his feet moving and played without fear.

5. Brian Propp
The master of the guffaw was also an outstanding penalty killer and routinely teamed with Dave Poulin (more on him later), to form perhaps the leagues best PK duo in the mid 80s. His positional play was excellent and he was always a shorthanded threat.

4. Rod Brind'amour
Brind'amour simply outworked the opposing pp unit. He was an ace on faceoffs and once he got the puck on his stick, he was excelled at taking it to the wall and keeping it away from the opposition.

3. Bill Barber
Barber was simply the best all around LW of his era and a fantastic penalty killer. The guy was never out of position and broke up plays with aplomb. He was also another threat to score shorthanded at any moment.

2. Dave Poulin
Poulin was simply amazing on the PK. His goal in the 85 playoffs against Quebec while 2 men short is one of the greatest in franchise history. He was arguably the best penalty killer in the NHL in the mid 80s and one of the best I ever saw.

1. Bobby Clarke
What else can you say about Clarke? He seemed to never lose a faceoff when the team was short, and he was tireless in his puck pursuit. Clarke was another shorthanded threat and never seemed to be out of position. Not only was he perhaps the finest penalty killer of his era, but he would legitimately have to be considered if they were going to make a list of the top 10 penalty killers in NHL history. Yeah, he was that good.
- BiggE

#9, and thats why his team value isn't measured in points.
Especially when he's the first on the ice down 5 on 3.

I'm thinking game 7 wins is gonna be next
- BiggE

If Boston is not #1, I will disown you.

#9, and thats why his team value isn't measured in points.
Especially when he's the first on the ice down 5 on 3.
- puckhead17

Yes, but some people want him to no longer be on the PK.

18% is actually better than the national average and considered to be normal.

http://www.livestrong.com...y-fat-percentage-average/



- jak521

that's weird. Usually you have a tan in the after picture to accentuate definition and tone

Current NHL centers
- benjichronic

Ok, sounds like fun, will get around to it at some point for sure.

that's weird. Usually you have a tan in the after picture to accentuate definition and tone
- KINGKENZO

he is not a beach person

If Boston is not #1, I will disown you.
- jmatchett383

Oh well

For what it's worth, Mike Richards has the NHL record for 5-on-3 SHG with 3.
Also, no Lappy in the honorable mentions?
- jmatchett383

Blair Betts regardless of whom he was with was extremely effective. Betts and Lappy or Powe, it never mattered, I felt safe killing penalties.

Yes, but some people want him to no longer be on the PK.
- jmatchett383

That's not utilizing his strength, he can still contribute while playing a 2 way style.
I'm in the minority when it comes to evaluating his worth, (in regards to his point totals).

That's not utilizing his strength, he can still contribute while playing a 2 way style.
I'm in the minority when it comes to evaluating his worth, (in regards to his point totals).
- puckhead17

I agree with you 100%. Especially when PK is one of our weakest points, I don't agree with the "Throw some bottom-6 guys out there" crowd. I want our best PK players out on the PK.

Blair Betts regardless of whom he was with was extremely effective. Betts and Lappy or Powe, it never mattered, I felt safe killing penalties.
- SuperSchennBros

Chris Pronger probably played a role in that. Not that Betts/Lappy weren't great that season, but having Pronger out there makes everyone's job easier.