Bozak is a third liner treated as a first liner. Morrison was the same
- VANTEL

Not sure I agree with that.

Not sure I agree with that.
- vancity787

Sutter would have looked just as great between Nazzy and Bert

See how Bozak looks without Kessel

Sutter would have looked just as great between Nazzy and Bert

See how Bozak looks without Kessel
- VANTEL

I'm not convinced Sutter can make a pass, something that Morrison was pretty good at.

Bozak is a third liner treated as a first liner. Morrison was the same
- VANTEL

Not even close. Morrison was a quality skater and distributed the puck very well. He was also the defensive conscious of the West Coast Express line. There is no way that line is as successful without him as the pivot.

It was your potty mouth.
- Marwood

Flagged.

Not even close. Morrison was a quality skater and distributed the puck very well. He was also the defensive conscious of the West Coast Express line. There is no way that line is as successful without him as the pivot.
- Zogg

Morrison was a solid 2 way player. Very much under appreciated. If he had any success beyond what he did in Van perhaps he would have got more credit.

I'm not convinced Sutter can make a pass, something that Morrison was pretty good at.
- belcherbd

Morrison was more skilled from what I remember. Better offensive hockey sense.


And naming Bozak doesn't make me feel better about Sutter. That's like saying the Miller deal is a steal because it's not Rick Depietro's(sp?) contract.

Morrison was a solid 2 way player. Very much under appreciated. If he had any success beyond what he did in Van perhaps he would have got more credit.
- rugdnit

He left year when he was past his prime and still had a couple of 40+ points seasons.

He left year when he was past his prime and still had a couple of 40+ points seasons.
- Nucker101

Scoring was higher back then

Scoring was higher back then
- VANTEL

The difference wasn't massive enough to suggest he'd be a 35 point guy like Sutter.

He left year when he was past his prime and still had a couple of 40+ points seasons.
- Nucker101

Understood-- I have been watching this team since '81. He had his best years in Van. He hadn't done much prior to that is what I am saying.

The difference wasn't massive enough to suggest he'd be a 35 point guy like Sutter.
- Nucker101

Let's see if Sutter is a 35 point player now that his role will increase.

Understood-- I have been watching this team since '81. He had his best years in Van. He hadn't done much prior to that is what I am saying.
- rugdnit

That's fair but we'll never know how he would have played in his prime on a different line. But his 40+ point seasons at an older age suggests that he was probably pretty good in his prime.

Let's see if Sutter is a 35 point player now that his role will increase.
- VANTEL

If he plays more minutes per game than he did last year it'll be close to or at 1st line ice time.

Flagged.
- rugdnit

Son of a ...

Son of a ...
- Marwood

Pretty sure a kid could fill in that blank.

I don't think he wins this though, the NFL has set the standard in the courts for contracts being terminated for personal misconduct. And I believe this isn't the first run-in with the law for Richards, this just happens to be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
- DariusKnight

Richards absolutely wins. He has no priors on drug issues and the league has a very specific substance abuse program that calls for suspensions, rehab, etc. There is no graounds for termination.

Pretty sure a kid could fill in that blank.
- CubanBuffet

I'll take female dogs for 200, please, Alex.

Richards absolutely wins. He has no priors on drug issues and the league has a very specific substance abuse program that calls for suspensions, rehab, etc. There is no graounds for termination.
- Canada Cup

Smuggling drugs across an international border, however...

Son of a ...
- Marwood

frank and beans???

.....

Reported.

I'll take female dogs for 200, please, Alex.
- Marwood

I've got ashk you... about the penish mightiah!

Smuggling drugs across an international border, however...
- Marwood

Maybe he'll just play on one side of the border exclusively like Probert did?

Spousal abuse can be pretty complicated. You have to know the details and not just that... the history.

So many times a man gets charged with assaulting his wife but when the dust settles... the other person was at fault and charges get dropped( but never reversed). It still ruins the mans reputation often though even though he was protecting himself or trying to leave to avoid trouble and was obstructed. I've seen it first hand too many times to count... like the man holding his wife's wrists while she tries to pound him in the face over and over... then see him charged for assault because of the marks on her wrists... true story... a friend was charged... he had a fat lip, a shiner and bruises on his legs from being kicked... she had marks on her wrists you could only see in florescent lights.... crazy. He was found not guilty after he hired a lawyer to prove the obvious. He was removed from his own house for 8 months and she put a restraining order on him but still showed up at my house where he moved into to be a wiener to him weekly.

She told the police that he went after his kids with a knife once. When she admitted she lied after he was taken down and stuffed in a cop car. They didnt charge her for the lie... and still removed him from the house due to domestic disturbance protocol.... the neighbors thought he was a monster because of her antics.
- boonerbuck

Ya stuff like that happens all the time. This is a pretty screwed society. Some of these women are out of control trouble makers That fabricate lies at will for entertainment

Cut and dry is it?

The courts and police protocol are so skewed that it is rarely cut and dry. Was he convicted yes. Did he do what he was charged for... yes... *most likely*. Was there circumstances that people don't know about.... way too often.

I wonder, how many violent domestic situations have you been around for? I don't mean showing up for the aftermath and already having the mindset that there is only one abuser involved...

I was almost murdered by my spouse. I have a deep puncture scar 1/2 inch from my jugular. I didnt touch her. The cops asked if I wanted to press charges... I said no... end of story. I wasnt allowed to go back to the apartment the cops told me at the hospital. Flip that around and just a mark on the wrist means you are taken away and charged even if she claims you didnt do it.

I have several stories of me, family and friends who have dealt with violent woman and it never reached a court room. Some of these people eventually defended themselves... which resulted with some of them were charged... a couple were convicted. The cases where the woman was caught lying... no punishment for that. This is why it happens as often as it does...

I could go on about the craziness in my own household growing up. My father wasnt abusive what so ever.... but the cops were at the house constantly because of my mother. He would try and leave the house when she was drunk and she would try and stop him... if he eventualy pushed her on her ass... she would run to the phone... she even said once on the phone he was going to shoot me so the task force showed up. They never charged her either... but he had been taken away on other calls by her when he was just trying to go to work in the morning.

Growing up poor means I don't have the Hollywood/media stereotype of how domestic violence plays out. Men go way overboard... there's no denying it but to claim things are cut and dry makes me chuckle because I've sat around the courtrooms after witnessing what really happened. Imagine after having several plates and cups thrown at you and you are jumping up and down in your bare feet trying to dodge missiles while landing on glass... just to throw the 1 cup that didnt break back and get charged and convicted.... even when you had witnesses... fkn sad.
- boonerbuck

Wow some sad stories there dude...ive also seen stuff similar. Its amazing they get away with it. The law isnt really the law for everyone it seems. Thats why these women continue.

The best thing to do is distance yourself from women like this the 1st time something lhappens. No ending up in the slammer later then.

These women ruin it for the good women of the world

Ya stuff like that happens all the time. This is a pretty screwed society. Some of these women are out of control trouble makers That fabricate lies at will for entertainment
- SMBDragon

Hey, I have a idea. How about not associating yourself with those type of woman? Guys who get involved with those types deserve what they get. Have some control over your cock. It will save you a whole lotta grief.