2010: Hall is one of the best LW on the planet. Very difficult to frame his choice as a mistake.
2011: There isn't anyone from the 2011 draft I would trade Nuge for and don't reply if you are going to say Landeskog.
2012: Yakupov was the consensus number 1 and the best player *right now* might be Trouba and drafting him was NEVER going to happen. The choice was Yak or Murray and Yak>Murray
2013: How could Nurse possibly be considered a mistake. At all.
2014: Draisaitl is a wide framed centerman who just dominated the CHL during their playoffs
The number of mistakes in that list are pretty low. All of them? Not a chance. - Matt_Henderson
I think it's too early to say Yak > Murray yet but yea so far all the top draft picks have been pretty good.
No doubt, those 3 players are all excellent prospects and at least 2 of them would be in my top 5 prospects in NHL.
That said do you agree with some of the pundits ranking Edm as the best prospect system largely in part because of McDavid?
Obviously Nurse and Draisatl are great as well.
It does continue to amaze me that Edm has struggled to acquire other impressive prospects throughout the later rounds of the draft considering their opportunities.
Since 2003 Petry is arguably the only player to make an impact who wasn't a 1st round pick, obviously it is too soon to judge the last few drafts. - belcherbd
they didn't have 2nd or 3rd rounders in both of the last two drafts.
when you draft 1-3 then 91, 100+, you don't get depth
they didn't have 2nd or 3rd rounders in both of the last two drafts.
when you draft 1-3 then 91, 100+, you don't get depth - oilerfan94
Sure and like I said it is too early to judge the last couple of drafts anyways, I was referring more to the 27 2nd and 3rd round picks between 2003 and 2012, many of which were very early in those rounds.
2010: Hall is one of the best LW on the planet. Very difficult to frame his choice as a mistake.
2011: There isn't anyone from the 2011 draft I would trade Nuge for and don't reply if you are going to say Landeskog.
2012: Yakupov was the consensus number 1 and the best player *right now* might be Trouba and drafting him was NEVER going to happen. The choice was Yak or Murray and Yak>Murray
2013: How could Nurse possibly be considered a mistake. At all.
2014: Draisaitl is a wide framed centerman who just dominated the CHL during their playoffs
The number of mistakes in that list are pretty low. All of them? Not a chance. - Matt_Henderson
Okay lets look into this then.
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
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Aug 28 @ 5:15 PM ET
Okay lets look into this then.
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
2014: is way to early to say. - Bigdog1991
Seguin still has yet to play an entire season as a centre...
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
2014: is way to early to say. - Bigdog1991
Who was the #1 center they already had when they picked RNH?
You can absolutely draft quality NHL players 91+. - rangerdanger94
odds of an NHL player drop substantially
maybe in a few years Platzer, Bear, Jones, Chase, Vesel, Laleggia, Simpson, etc. turn into something. Rieder is one guy that slipped through the cracks.
Fast is the only 91+ guy of note in the NYR system from the last 7 years and he looks like a bottom 6er
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
2014: is way to early to say. - Bigdog1991
1: Landeskog leadered that team all the way to a MacKinnon win a few years ago and yet another disappointing campaign last year. Leadership is one of the most impossible things to quantify and Landeskog would have done nothing to make any Oiler goalie stop more pucks. He would have changed nothing.
2: Taking Yak over Murray was a choice made by following the mantra "Draft the best player available". It's not particularly close right now between Yak and Murray. Murray hasn't been healthy enough to even reach the 100 game plateau. By mid October Yak will be at 200. If the Oilers had drafted Murray we would be talking about what a horrible mistake HE is. Yak's "trainwreck career" so far has seen him win the rookie scoring race then return to form after Eakins was fired. Post Eakins he was scoring at the same pace as Galchenyuk in MTL.
3: Nurse was the best defenseman (or at least one of the top two) for team Canada at the WJC. He was -in most people's eyes- the best OHL defenseman and played extremely well for the AHL Barons when his Jr season ended. I like Risto too but the Oilers opted to let Nurse develop in Jr than rush him. That's not a knock against Nurse.
4: It's not too early to say that Draisaitl is the reigning WHL Playoff MVP, Memorial Cup MVP, and the best player on the powerhouse Kelowna Rockets. It might be too early to tell who will be the *best* player from his draft but there is no argument capable of labeling him a mistake.
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Aug 28 @ 5:51 PM ET
Okay lets look into this then.
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
2014: is way to early to say. - Bigdog1991
So what you are saying is instead of McDavid we probably end up with Strome at best?
maybe in a few years Platzer, Bear, Jones, Chase, Vesel, Laleggia, Simpson, etc. turn into something. Rieder is one guy that slipped through the cracks.
Fast is the only 91+ guy of note in the NYR system from the last 7 years and he looks like a bottom 6er - oilerfan94
Shestyorkin, Calle Anderson, Dale Weise, Carl Hagelin, Ryan Callahan, Dominic Moore, and Henrik Lundqvist all come to mind as 91+ guys along with Fast as you mentioned.
The chances definitely drop substantially but you can still hit there.
The luster has worn off since June 2012 and the player was blocked in the Islanders organization to the point where it no longer made sense to keep him.
this is incorrect. He wasn't blocked. He may turn into what was projected (top four defensive specialist) at some point, but from what I’ve seen (preseason, regular season, one playoff game) and more importantly, what our blogger saw watching him in the ahl, he’s just not developing quickly at all and looks overwhelmed. More Hal Gill than Pronger was what the discussion was on Reinhart prior to the trade.
Don’t expect him soon and give him time and he might turn out to be better than he’s looked, as I saw him, he was nowhere near NHL ready.
The only defensemen we have as prospects that are close to NHL ready are Pulock and Mayfield, and Reinhart fell behind both of them because he wasn't playing well.
this is incorrect. He wasn't blocked. He may turn into what was projected (top four defensive specialist) at some point, but from what I’ve seen (preseason, regular season, one playoff game) and more importantly, what our blogger saw watching him in the ahl, he’s just not developing quickly at all and looks overwhelmed. More Hal Gill than Pronger was what the discussion was on Reinhart prior to the trade.
Don’t expect him soon and give him time and he might turn out to be better than he’s looked, as I saw him, he was nowhere near NHL ready.
The only defensemen we have as prospects that are close to NHL ready are Pulock and Mayfield, and Reinhart fell behind both of them because he wasn't playing well. - Isles_since_6
True. Reinhart had 4 opportunities to seize a spot in the lineup and could not do it.
-Was passed by Pulock in training camp;
-Looked bad in his first call up;
-Was a little better in his second call-up but not good enough to stick.
-Was a complete disaster in his one playoff game. Was replaced by Mayfield who left him in the dust.
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Aug 28 @ 7:39 PM ET
True. Reinhart had 4 opportunities to seize a spot in the lineup and could not do it.
-Was passed by Pulock in training camp;
-Looked bad in his first call up;
-Was a little better in his second call-up but not good enough to stick.
-Was a complete disaster in his one playoff game. Was replaced by Mayfield who left him in the dust. - Snowblind
a disaster in one playoff game!!!??
sounds like you guys dodged a bullet when dealing him. great move!!!
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Aug 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
Okay lets look into this then.
2010: Hall is one of the best left wingers in the league but this is the reason why you guys are in the position you are in. It was up in the air who to take that year so why would you take winger over a center doesnt make since. Seguin is turning out to be top 5 center in league. Seguin> Hall all day.
2011:Hopkins is good pick but since you already have a number one center you could go with a winger. Landeskog isnt as skilled but he is leader and plays both ends very well. You have no leadership in your locker room. He would do wonders on your team.
2012: This is the draft that kills me the most. You drafted two forwards in the past two years how do you take another forward. I know murray hasnt lived up to expectations but Yak has been train wreck.
2013: Nurse is good but have you seen Ristolainen he has been a stud. He has played 78 games last year and is alot better then Nurse. I even think Zardov will turn out to be better or as good as Nurse. Not saying this was bad pick at all becuase he is good player but you cant honestly say Nurse is better then Ristolainen.
2014: is way to early to say. - Bigdog1991
jesus
another banger from this guy
the oilers are really kicking themselves due to having hall, nurse, draisaitl in the organization.
epic mistakes
