14 games in the NFL in 4 years, only 4 of those games the last 2 years.

While I'm fine with him being the starter, I can't imagine there are too many successful QBs who end up with such limited playing time their first 4 years in the league and then come out and light the world on fire.

*Note I said not too many...before people throw out a single name and beat their chests.
- stashu

right on, stash...but, people still believe

14 games in the NFL in 4 years, only 4 of those games the last 2 years.

While I'm fine with him being the starter, I can't imagine there are too many successful QBs who end up with such limited playing time their first 4 years in the league and then come out and light the world on fire.

*Note I said not too many...before people throw out a single name and beat their chests.
- stashu

Steve Young...beats chest

Edit: Oh and Kurt Warner

But yes I get what you are saying.

Is he the ultimate "franchise QB" probably not but who is to say he can't be better than Andy Dalton?

Steve Young...beats chest

Edit: Oh and Kurt Warner

But yes I get what you are saying.

Is he the ultimate "franchise QB" probably not but who is to say he can't be better than Andy Dalton?
- Stripes77

I was thinking A-rod, but I don't know how long he sat without looking it up.

Edit: Warner didn't sit in the NFL for years. He played 1 game the year prior to breaking out. Sure, he was elsewhere, but I'm being more specific about NFL and having all of these scouts around more regularly

right on, stash...but, people still believe
- Michael Pachla

I don't think anyone believes he's going to tear things up, and with what the Defense should bring, none of the QBs should need to. It's a matter of who do we think could manage the game better.

I'm on the Taylor bandwagon, just too disgusted by some of the throws I had seen Manuel make.

In the end, I think they're likely both very similar overall, in a Madden score sort of way. One may be better at X and the other better at Y, but total things up and they'd be quite equal.

Steve Young...beats chest

Edit: Oh and Kurt Warner

But yes I get what you are saying.

Is he the ultimate "franchise QB" probably not but who is to say he can't be better than Andy Dalton?
- Stripes77

better beat your head...young was drafted by tampa and started 19 games for them...

edit: and kurt warner is a special case...loved that guy

but...point taken

I was thinking A-rod, but I don't know how long he sat without looking it up.
- stashu

Who?? LOL I kid I kid.

Rodgers was also a first round pick stuck behind a legend.

But the question Pach said is legitimate...what will happen when teams adjust to him?

I liked him in the pocket the last 2 preseason games.

I still want to see him stretch the field though

better beat your head...young was drafted by tampa and started 19 games for them...

edit:

and kurt warner is a special case...loved that guy
- Michael Pachla

Better check your stats again...he never started for Tampa

http://www.nfl.com/player...teveyoung/2503843/profile

Edit: I am wrong and so is NFL.com! My apologies

Better check your stats again...he never started for Tampa

http://www.nfl.com/player...teveyoung/2503843/profile
- Stripes77

yikes!!!

Better check your stats again...he never started for Tampa

http://www.nfl.com/player...teveyoung/2503843/profile
- Stripes77

14 games in 86 and he never started?

yikes!!!
- Michael Pachla

See edit

http://www.pro-football-r...ce.com/teams/tam/1986.htm

NFL.com is WRONG haha

But seriously he didn't have much success playing for them

That link you posted doesn't show they're wrong - they don't list starts on that page.
- stashu

GS is games started the next column over from G (games)

GS is games started the next column over from G (games)
- Stripes77

Yeah...I had apparently clicked on the Career Stats link rather than look at the page you linked. THAT page didn't list starts.

But cmon man!! How can you think he played 14 games of relief???

Yeah...I had apparently clicked on the Career Stats link rather than look at the page you linked. THAT page didn't list starts.

But cmon man!! How can you think he played 14 games of relief???
- stashu

Cause of who he played for...




Need I say more?

Cause of who he played for...




Need I say more?
- Stripes77

Those are great helmets

Those are great helmets
- SABRES 89

This is a perfect example of trying really, really hard, and still missing really, really bad.

Those are great helmets
- SABRES 89

Great helmets...CRAPPY teams played in them

Those are great helmets
- SABRES 89

They stink !

just heard Schopp all giddy over the possibility of the bills finding that diamond in the rough...

2T has never started a regular season game and, based upon three preseason games, the media has him as "the answer"

I don't get it...been through that movie too many times before
- Michael Pachla

I think you answered your own question. Aren't we all excited about what we saw in preseason? It is the possibility. Even though it was preseason he showed us everything we would want to see in a qb. I can't remember the last time someone did that.

They stink !
- Pairo11

loved/hated his scrambling...he was great, but imo, fran has no peer
- Michael Pachla

IMO it's Steve Young.

Better check your stats again...he never started for Tampa

http://www.nfl.com/player...teveyoung/2503843/profile

Edit: I am wrong and so is NFL.com! My apologies
- Stripes77

He also started 29 NFL games prior to taking over for Montana.

http://www.pro-football-r...om/players/Y/YounSt00.htm


Don't forget he also started for the USFL's LA Express.

- Stripes77

Best sports quote of all time.

Buc's coach John McKay, when asked about his team's execution: "I'm all for it"

Best sports quote of all time.

Buc's coach John McKay, when asked about his team's execution: "I'm all for it"
- Slump Buster

- Stripes77

Best birthday cake ever: