Tamby!

Yeah... Is anyone sold on Vey?

I don't see it working for him here. Or anywhere really.
- rugdnit

I don't think that he will be able to carve out a spot if he is expected to be the 4C.

I do think it is a little early to write him off yet though, last season was his first in the NHL. I'm more concerned that nucks don't have any type of back up if he isn't good enough for the 4C spot.

It would be nice if they sign someone to a PTO like Slater who at least could provide decent minutes in a 4th line role or worst case scenario is depth in Utica.

Basically another Sutter type.
- Nucker101

Sutter is more gifted offensively. Whereas Eller does tend to elevate his game in the playoffs his contributions during the season won't get you there.

Basically another Sutter type.
- Nucker101

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...s-2015-one-130300781.html

Alex Smith gets no respect

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fantasy-football-rankings-2015-one-130300781.html
- golfingsince

FF is not the same as real life. I'd take Tannehill over Foles myself in FF

Alex Smith gets no respect
- LeftCoaster

See above, he's a good QB but won't put up monster numbers in that scheme.

Sutter is more gifted offensively. Whereas Eller does tend to elevate his game in the playoffs his contributions during the season won't get you there.
- golfingsince

I agree. Now is not the time to be accumulating complementary pieces which Eller is (and Sutter too but I digress).

Focus on bringing in a new core. That requires patience and an inevitable step (or three) back. Keep the vets until they can be flipped for draft picks and/or prospects.

Mind you this strategy leads to sucking (either by design or by accident). That's not a popular strategy though judging by those jumping off the bandwagon.

Not yet , he is still young.
- VANTEL

Might just need a bit more time.

I agree. Now is not the time to be accumulating complementary pieces which Eller is (and Sutter too but I digress).

Focus on bringing in a new core. That requires patience and an inevitable step (or three) back. Keep the vets until they can be flipped for draft picks and/or prospects.

Mind you this strategy leads to sucking (either by design or by accident). That's not a popular strategy though judging by those jumping off the bandwagon.
- RealityChecker

I see more people frustrated by the lack of direction more than the projected "suckage"/mediocrity. Maybe that's just the more hardcore fans online though(Twitter, Reddit, HB, HF, etc.)

See above, he's a good QB but won't put up monster numbers in that scheme.
- Nucker101

Fair enough.

See above, he's a good QB but won't put up monster numbers in that scheme.
- Nucker101

Foles is not a good QB. He put up decent numbers in a scheme designed for monster numbers.

Tannehill will take the league by storm.

I agree. Now is not the time to be accumulating complementary pieces which Eller is (and Sutter too but I digress).

Focus on bringing in a new core. That requires patience and an inevitable step (or three) back. Keep the vets until they can be flipped for draft picks and/or prospects.

Mind you this strategy leads to sucking (either by design or by accident). That's not a popular strategy though judging by those jumping off the bandwagon.
- RealityChecker

His contract is also nothing to scoff at. No thanks.

I see more people frustrated by the lack of direction more than the projected "suckage"/mediocrity. Maybe that's just the more hardcore fans online though(Twitter, Reddit, HB, HF, etc.)
- Nucker101

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.

Foles is not a good QB. He put up decent numbers in a scheme designed for monster numbers.

Tannehill will take the league by storm.
- golfingsince

I'm not a 'phins fan but tannehil is much much better than foles. He just needs some receivers and some pass production.

So yeah nucker, suck on that too!

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.
- RealityChecker

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.
- RealityChecker

I'm not a 'phins fan but tannehil is much much better than foles. He just needs some receivers and some pass production.

So yeah nucker, suck on that too!
- RealityChecker

Finally has those. Agreed with the pass protection.

I see more people frustrated by the lack of direction more than the projected "suckage"/mediocrity. Maybe that's just the more hardcore fans online though(Twitter, Reddit, HB, HF, etc.)
- Nucker101

Perceived lack of direction and actual lack of direction are two different things from fans on the outside looking in.

People who can't see that they're trying to compete now while still drafting and developing as they go about it, doesn't mean there isn't direction.

I don't know if what they're doing is going to work, what I do know (or think I know lol) is, Benning has brought more youth into the organization in just over a year than Mike Gillis did in five years. Although his last draft year seems to have produced some good young players.

Thankfully the Gillis regime purchased and set up our own AHL franchise for these kids to have a place to grow their game.

He's a third line centre. Better option than Vey .

It is a lot of money to spend on a 4 th line . He is a decent 2 way centre good size , not really tough , can score
- VANTEL

Yes Im thinking Vey should convert to wing. Didn't he get owned at center last season?

Definately more confident in center without Vey there.

Would this trade make sense to you? We would lose certain things higgins brings (if indeed thats who goes) like his shootout abilities, playmaking smarts and PK proficiency. Maybe it'd make more sense to just move Vey instead

Yes Im thinking Vey should convert to wing. Didn't he get owned at center last season?

Definately more confident in center without Vey there.

Would this trade make sense to you? We would lose certain things higgins brings (if indeed thats who goes) like his shootout abilities, playmaking smarts and PK proficiency. Maybe it'd make more sense to just move Vey instead
- SMBDragon

It is kind of hard to label him a bust especially in the offseason when you haven't seen him play in some time. He does have some slick moves and can put the puck in the net. If you play him with unskilled players he will look like a bust, when he played with the Sedins on the PP he produced.

I just checked Eller stats and he had 15 goals last year....BUT 7 of them were game winning goals


not bad for a 3rd C. Dont ever see Vey getting that.

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.
- RealityChecker

I never imagined Nucker would become the most irrational poster in the Canucks board... he went from someone I could always rely on to be reasonable and insightful even in disagreement to someone who has developed a blind hate and rolls out one spinning exaggeration after another that is dripping with speculative conclusions about all the future outcomes of every move and non move. He was never this crazy at the end of MG rein. It was all going to hell for a long time and the POS was blaming everyone but himself but before our last playoffs were even over, nucker was waving his Flames sweater everywhere poopting all over Benning and us fans because Benning's *non playoff team* was not looking like a playoff team(go figure).... all the signs of someone who was set to go on a agenda long before he found that 1st thing to set it off....

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.
- RealityChecker

It is kind of hard to label him a bust especially in the offseason when you haven't seen him play in some time. He does have some slick moves and can put the puck in the net. If you play him with unskilled players he will look like a bust, when he played with the Sedins on the PP he produced.
- VANTEL

Yes its always relative to your assignments and roles placed in for sure.
Don't recall him with the sedins but I believe you.

"Lack of direction," is just another way of saying that they don't agree with the moves.

Regardless whether you agree or not, the direction of the team is pretty clear. They are replacing the core slowly and bringing in character guys who play a more "honest" game while still trying to compete.

I don't agree with some/a lot of the moves but I can see what Benning is thinking (as well as what I believe the owner is thinking).

To say that it is directionless is disingenuous at best or frightfully stupid at worst.

And kudos to Lefty who may not agree with all the moves made but can dispassionately explain them. He has much more patience than I do. He honestly seems to have the patience of Job.
- RealityChecker

Lefty also knows more about the actual game than the people who obsessively crunch stats and base their ease of the GM job by how well the outcomes are for them in management mode in EA....