Solid business plan, you must be extremely successful.

I would never ban you, ..especially now that I know your outlook on life, feel sorry for you yes...ban you no.
- Makita

By that theory, they'll never be another leaf fan banned in here again. For shame Makita, for shame

Damn Benning sure handcuff this team by doing all that...
- Makita

I was referring to Gillis. Benning walked into a mess.

I was referring to Gillis. Benning walked into a mess.
- VANTEL

As do most gms. There is a reason the previous gm was canned

The thing is, as long as the twins are here they'll probably be knocking because they're still competitive, I don't see that as a "problem".

Getting rid of the twins is not an option, people need to deal with it. They've got a few good young players in the mix now, things are going to be ok.

You can't build a championship team in 12 months!!
- LeftCoaster

Get rid of the bastards

As do most gms. There is a reason the previous gm was canned
- Bieksa#3

Yup

Get rid of the bastards
- VANTEL

If Henrik gets hurt long term we is dead.

If Henrik gets hurt long term we is dead.
- Bieksa#3

Henrik missing the majority of the season is the one (individual) thing that would turn this team from a playoff contender to a high lottery pick.

Solid business plan, you must be extremely successful.

I would never ban you, ..especially now that I know your outlook on life, feel sorry for you yes...ban you no.
- Makita

and it makes cheering for the Canucks a walk in the park.

Henrik missing the majority of the season is the one (individual) thing that would turn this team from a playoff contender to a high lottery pick.
- KB3Point0

For sure. It's funny because everyone agrees with that statement yet some still think the Sedins aren't legit 1st liners

I was referring to Gillis. Benning walked into a mess.
- VANTEL

I was being facetious, everything that was and is, rests on Bennings shoulders.

For sure. It's funny because everyone agrees with that statement yet some still think the Sedins aren't legit 1st liners
- Nucker101

Let's face it, the Sedins will never get the respect they deserve, unless they singlehandedly win the Stanley Cup - and even then there will be naysayers. It really is a frustrating phenomenon

P.S. even in my hockey pool magazine, it only lists the Sedins as getting around 60 points

Anaheim wasn't built thru tanking, aka early picks.

Rakell, 1st rd 30th
Perry, 1st rd 28th
Getzlaf, 1st rd 19th
Fowler, 1st rd 12th
Lindhom, 1st rd 6th
Vatanen, 4th rd 106th (why do I think he is what Forsling could be like)
Gibson, 2nd 39th
Andersen, 3rd 87th

They are built around 2 late 1st rd picks. Everyone else was acquired through trade or FA. This last draft was built as the best since 2003 (getz/perry) draft. Btw, Boeser looks like the real deal.

I can find other teams too. Sure it helps to have the Chicago and Pittsburgh model. But it can be done other ways as well. You can argue Pitt got lucky in those lotteries, but weren't shrewd enough (if thats the right word) in their other picks. Just a top heavy team that has climbed the mountain only once. Chicago was able to add more in the later rounds. Thus, allowing them to win, tear down, rebuild and win again through great drafting.

Benning is sure leaving us with alot of questions, regarding his trading history. But don't tell me he's not a great scout. I have full confidence in his selections.

Lets see what happens this year. Alot of expiring contracts. This offseason will be the real transition year. How many picks will The Canucks have going into next years draft? How much cap space will be there (looks like tons).

I know I'm rambling on, must be the strong coffee.....All the picks traded away so far were for players to help fill in that age gap this team is missing. Having essentially nothing to show in drafts since Sedins, Benning has been restocking the 22-24 age group. Players like Sutter, Baertschi, Vey and Pedan were acquired to help fill the void. Now, with these players in the fold, and some youth on the way (5 1st rd picks in 3 years), Benning will be able to stockpile more picks, rather than trade them away.

Lets see what happens.
- storm88

here here.
There is no reason to think that we can't continue to be competitive, draft and develop prospects and sign quality free agents (all of whom can be traded for picks/prospects to keep the flow of talent coming).

There will be no intentional tank.

That is why i'm not opposed to trying to get Franson this year and Lucic next year.
Bring in quality that can either push your team into the playoffs, or allow you to trade (either them or other expendable assets) at the TDL for more high draft picks.

Let's face it, the Sedins will never get the respect they deserve, unless they singlehandedly win the Stanley Cup - and even then there will be naysayers. It really is a frustrating phenomenon

P.S. even in my hockey pool magazine, it only lists the Sedins as getting around 60 points
- Zogg

They get respect from Canucks fans and the Swedes. That'll do.
They'll have to settle for the accolades of having their jersey's retired some day.

Anaheim wasn't built thru tanking, aka early picks.

Rakell, 1st rd 30th
Perry, 1st rd 28th
Getzlaf, 1st rd 19th
Fowler, 1st rd 12th
Lindhom, 1st rd 6th
Vatanen, 4th rd 106th (why do I think he is what Forsling could be like)
Gibson, 2nd 39th
Andersen, 3rd 87th

They are built around 2 late 1st rd picks. Everyone else was acquired through trade or FA. This last draft was built as the best since 2003 (getz/perry) draft. Btw, Boeser looks like the real deal.

I can find other teams too. Sure it helps to have the Chicago and Pittsburgh model. But it can be done other ways as well. You can argue Pitt got lucky in those lotteries, but weren't shrewd enough (if thats the right word) in their other picks. Just a top heavy team that has climbed the mountain only once. Chicago was able to add more in the later rounds. Thus, allowing them to win, tear down, rebuild and win again through great drafting.

Benning is sure leaving us with alot of questions, regarding his trading history. But don't tell me he's not a great scout. I have full confidence in his selections.

Lets see what happens this year. Alot of expiring contracts. This offseason will be the real transition year. How many picks will The Canucks have going into next years draft? How much cap space will be there (looks like tons).

I know I'm rambling on, must be the strong coffee.....All the picks traded away so far were for players to help fill in that age gap this team is missing. Having essentially nothing to show in drafts since Sedins, Benning has been restocking the 22-24 age group. Players like Sutter, Baertschi, Vey and Pedan were acquired to help fill the void. Now, with these players in the fold, and some youth on the way (5 1st rd picks in 3 years), Benning will be able to stockpile more picks, rather than trade them away.

Lets see what happens.
- storm88

All very true but I'm just saying it's easier to find cornerstone players when your team picks top three.

here here.
There is no reason to think that we can't continue to be competitive, draft and develop prospects and sign quality free agents (all of whom can be traded for picks/prospects to keep the flow of talent coming).

There will be no intentional tank.

That is why i'm not opposed to trying to get Franson this year and Lucic next year.
Bring in quality that can either push your team into the playoffs, or allow you to trade (either them or other expendable assets) at the TDL for more high draft picks.
- dbot

Isnt this the truth

I haven't read one poster say, holy bat guano Benning has nailed every move he's made, yes yes yes we will be mired in mediocrity for ever, this is awesome.

But I certainly have seen posters in here demand change, expect change, will not support the team until change is made. Then lo and behold change is made, but now it's the change will not make us tank for a top 3, the change will not take us to the holy grail, the change is an over payment, the change is the player is not quality enough, so these individuals that perceive they know better and could do better really need to stop being hypocritical.

Not sure when people are going to get it, who here is celebrating mediocrity.
- Makita

Again, all true. But this franchise is now in rarefied territory. Is it 45 years without a championship? What's it going to take to get back there? Another 10 years? This franchise was so close a few years ago and now we are as far away from the cup as we have ever been.

I'm just frustrated with it all. It seems this team finds new ways to implode. The blunders are too numerous to count.

Again, all true. But this franchise is now in rarefied territory. Is it 45 years without a championship? What's it going to take to get back there? Another 10 years? This franchise was so close a few years ago and now we are as far away from the cup as we have ever been.

I'm just frustrated with it all. It seems this team finds new ways to implode. The blunders are too numerous to count.
- bloatedmosquito

I agree and if Hank goes down we may indeed get one of the coveted top picks, also if this happens Benning should be a major seller at TDL, for a few more picks.
There are so many variables that may or may not come to fruition, but I'd like to think the objective by all concerned would be a return to the final.

I agree and if Hank goes down we may indeed get one of the coveted top picks, also if this happens Benning should be a major seller at TDL, for a few more picks.
There are so many variables that may or may not come to fruition, but I'd like to think the objective by all concerned would be a return to the final.
- Makita[/quote]

That, or at least a few more new and improved gourmet hot dogs

I agree and if Hank goes down we may indeed get one of the coveted top picks, also if this happens Benning should be a major seller at TDL, for a few more picks.
There are so many variables that may or may not come to fruition, but I'd like to think the objective by all concerned would be a return to the final.
- Makita

If Henrik goes down long term we are sunk.
Same goes for Miller i think.

I think all the pro-tankers should be hoping that either Hansen or Lucic take another run at Miller.

I agree and if Hank goes down we may indeed get one of the coveted top picks, also if this happens Benning should be a major seller at TDL, for a few more picks.
There are so many variables that may or may not come to fruition, but I'd like to think the objective by all concerned would be a return to the final.
- Makita

I'm just a little more pissed off than usual with the organization because my wife reminded me last week that we spent over $80,000 in season tickets and playoffs. That's 16 seasons of putting my support (emotional and financial) behind the canuck brand only to watch implosion after implosion. Last seasons the wife and I said enough is enough.

When I say people celebrate mediocrity I mean it’s the blind enthusiasm that baffles me. I don’t see how people can be optimistic about this team when failure has followed this franchise since day one. I’m not talking about the players (who many are my sports heroes) I’m talking about ownership and management. Why should I be optimistic when history says I shouldn’t be? Will this management team be any different?

I’m not overly impressed with what I’ve seen so far.

Having a genuine superstar(s) on this team would help cover up the inevitable (frank) ups that owner/management will create. Getting that superstar is a whole lot easier when you have a top three pick.

Oh yeah, my dealer is away so I havent had a good blast in weeks. Might have something to do with current mood...

If Henrik goes down long term we are sunk.
Same goes for Miller i think.

I think all the pro-tankers should be hoping that either Hansen or Lucic take another run at Miller.
- dbot

I'm in negotiations with this guy...



If anyone can remember who this guy is I'll be impressed.

I'm in negotiations with this guy...



If anyone can remember who this guy is I'll be impressed.
- bloatedmosquito

You want John Waters to make a film about the Canucks??
I'm down.

For sure. It's funny because everyone agrees with that statement yet some still think the Sedins aren't legit 1st liners
- Nucker101

On the Canucks they are.

You want John Waters to make a film about the Canucks??
I'm down.
- dbot

He does look like John Waters! But it's not.

Here's another clue.

On the Canucks they are.
- VANTEL

NHL-wise, they still are. Not their fault the rest of the team is full of tweeners.