This 100% as further demonstrated by the Hamilton fiasco.
- jfkst1

Or, going back even further, the Kessel dump, which started this pattern.
Bruins schooled the leafs in that one though.

Has anyone listed the total parts moved from the Kessel trade now that all the big names have moved on?

Eh. I'll always be on the fence about this. Even at his worst, he was a solid, 30-goal guy on Bergeron's wing for $5.5 million. But I just don't think he would have ever 'got it' in Boston like he did with a new start in Dallas. Lot of Getting traded was really probably the first dose of reality that he's ever had in his hockey life.
- tyanderson

He did get it as a Bruin. He just had a down year and was immature.

The whole "He doesn't fit the Bruin model" was arrogance at its finest.

The Bruins are looking at a rough couple years ahead right now due to awful personnel decisions

Or, going back even further, the Kessel dump, which started this pattern.
Bruins schooled the leafs in that one though.

Has anyone listed the total parts moved from the Kessel trade now that all the big names have moved on?
- Pres.cup

Hmmm. Lets give it a try

Kessel - Seguin, Hamilton, Knight.

Seguin (+ Peverley) - Eriksson, Smith, Fraser and Morrow
Hamilton - (1st) Senyshyn, (2nd) Forsbacka-Karlsson, (2nd) Lauzon

Knight - Traded for Zach Phillips
Smith - Traded for Jimmy Hayes.
Fraser - Lost to Waivers

So out of Kessel they have:
Eriksson
Phillips
Hayes
Morrow
Senyshyn
Forsbacka-Karlsson
Lauzon

and if you want to go back further to management young players, should note that Peverley ( + Valabik) was traded for Blake Wheeler (UFA Signing) + Mark Stuart. They did win the cup that year and that trade did help them win, but they did give up on Wheeler too quickly as well

He did get it as a Bruin. He just had a down year and was immature.

The whole "He doesn't fit the Bruin model" was arrogance at its finest.

The Bruins are looking at a rough couple years ahead right now due to awful personnel decisions
- sbroads24

Every other team in the league wants elite young players and the Bruins are constantly unloading them. It's unreal stupidity.

If you read the blog Ty said it was a very bad idea especially since we traded Seguin for being a pain in the the a$$.
His pending cap hit helped make that decision too.

Every other team in the league wants elite your players and the Bruins are constantly unloading them. It's unreal stupidity.
- jfkst1

Seguin needed to leave and Dougie didn't want to say.
Do you honestly think management had much of a choice. Sure they coulda waited for an offer sheet and got less for Dougie, or made him sit. Either way you look at it the trade was the best option available.

Seguin had to leave for a zillion reasons. Kane and Seguin both had team mates have to babysit them.
Seguin either missed or was late for multiple practises.
(well documented) and was benched for it.
Went out partying during playoffs and missed curfew.
Made an ass out of himself publicly etc. Couple that with the pending cap hit and presto you have a trade.

Yes they should have got more for him, but they didn't.

Seguin needed to leave and Dougie didn't want to say.
Do you honestly think management had much of a choice. Sure they coulda waited for an offer sheet and got less for Dougie, or made him sit. Either way you look at it the trade was the best option available.

Seguin had to leave for a zillion reasons. Kane and Seguin both had team mates have to babysit them.
Seguin either missed or was late for multiple practises.
(well documented) and was benched for it.
Went out partying during playoffs and missed curfew.
Made an ass out of himself publicly etc. Couple that with the pending cap hit and presto you have a trade.

Yes they should have got more for him, but they didn't.
- Thornton22

NO TEAM SINCE DETROIT has won the CUP since 2009 without a SECOND OVERALL pick!

NO TEAM HAS MADE THE FINALS without at least a 2ND OVERALL pick!!!!

We have traded away our top picks and we are "magical" and therefore different and it will not matter............unless HISTORY matters.

But, history is stupid and should be ignored!

EDIT: Why can't people think about facts and history and how they relate to the present?

Seguin needed to leave and Dougie didn't want to say.
Do you honestly think management had much of a choice. Sure they coulda waited for an offer sheet and got less for Dougie, or made him sit. Either way you look at it the trade was the best option available.

Seguin had to leave for a zillion reasons. Kane and Seguin both had team mates have to babysit them.
Seguin either missed or was late for multiple practises.
(well documented) and was benched for it.
Went out partying during playoffs and missed curfew.
Made an ass out of himself publicly etc. Couple that with the pending cap hit and presto you have a trade.

Yes they should have got more for him, but they didn't.
- Thornton22

Yes, I do think management had a choice. Like not trading away elite young players. And if they do, they should be getting more for them. Especially the Hamilton deal which was just pitiful.

Seguin needed to leave and Dougie didn't want to say.
Do you honestly think management had much of a choice. Sure they coulda waited for an offer sheet and got less for Dougie, or made him sit. Either way you look at it the trade was the best option available.

Seguin had to leave for a zillion reasons. Kane and Seguin both had team mates have to babysit them.
Seguin either missed or was late for multiple practises.
(well documented) and was benched for it.
Went out partying during playoffs and missed curfew.
Made an ass out of himself publicly etc. Couple that with the pending cap hit and presto you have a trade.

Yes they should have got more for him, but they didn't.
- Thornton22

Seguin would have been fine. The notion he needed to leave to "wake up" is silly.

What, a suspension was out of the question? Couldn't have tried everything in their power to keep a highly skilled 2nd overall pick?

The B's were arrogant. Thought their system trumped talent.

LETS GO ISLANDERS

Speaking of Jared Knight. will he ever play? Remember how overhyped he was just because he was involved in that trade?

Yes, I do think management had a choice. Like not trading away elite young players. And if they do, they should be getting more for them. Especially the Hamilton deal which was just pitiful.
- jfkst1

Lol
Hamilton is far from elite. He has a lot of potential but the same thing was said about Kyle McLaren. He was supposed to be Bourques replacement, look how he panned out.

Seguin would have been fine. The notion he needed to leave to "wake up" is silly.

What, a suspension was out of the question? Couldn't have tried everything in their power to keep a highly skilled 2nd overall pick?

The B's were arrogant. Thought their system trumped talent.
- sbroads24

Several players had to babysit him. Like Kane. Eventually you burn bridges. Get over it.

Get a room , lol What is with the Bozak nosense, haha

Lol
Hamilton is far from elite. He has a lot of potential but the same thing was said about Kyle McLaren. He was supposed to be Bourques replacement, look how he panned out.
- Thornton22

Morrow, Miller, Miller, Trotman, Laresson, etc. are all older than him...........?

Are they useless and should be given up on?

Hamilton was playing NHL first line talent and minutes and was 20.........

So he wasn't worth the time but unproven players that playd AHL minutes and talent are somehow GOING TO MAKE THE LEAP?

WTF!

EDIT: Maybe everyone is right and Hamilton is a bust. But history says we are (frank)ed!

Lol
Hamilton is far from elite. He has a lot of potential but the same thing was said about Kyle McLaren. He was supposed to be Bourques replacement, look how he panned out.
- Thornton22

Tell yourself whatever makes you sleep at night. 29 other teams knew he was a top line talent now with room for improvement and you guys got 2nd pairing value for him.

Tell yourself whatever makes you sleep at night. 29 other teams knew he was a top line talent now with room for improvement and you guys got 2nd pairing value for him.
- jfkst1

Top pairing cuz Chara was hurt.
Let me make this really easy for u to understand.

DOUGIE DID NOT WANT TO REFUKINGSIGN IN BOSTON

Top pairing cuz Chara was hurt.
Let me make this really easy for u to understand.

DOUGIE DID NOT WANT TO REFUKINGSIGN IN BOSTON
- Thornton22

That's fine, and anyone knows he is worth more than what Sweeney got for him. Should have gotten at least another first rounder in 2016 for him.

That's fine, and anyone knows he is worth more than what Sweeney got for him. Should have gotten at least another first rounder in 2016 for him.
- jfkst1

Hamilton is stupid because of reasons!

When he finishes in the top ten......maybe three in Norris voting this season......what will the excuse be then?

Always an excuse. That's the most pathetic point on all of this. NEVER to admit wrong or foolishness.

That's fine, and anyone knows he is worth more than what Sweeney got for him. Should have gotten at least another first rounder in 2016 for him.
- jfkst1

I agree. But we didn't.
The discussion is Boston gave up on him, which they didn't. Tried 3 separate offers. Last one rumored to be more then what Dougie accepted from Calgary.

Hamilton is stupid because of reasons!

When he finishes in the top ten......maybe three in Norris voting this season......what will the excuse be then?

Always an excuse. That's the most pathetic point on all of this. NEVER to admit wrong or foolishness.
- JIwasinskiJr

This is utterly ridiculous. Hamilton didn't get a single Norris vote his past season and he's going to a team where's he's stuck behind two better players who did get plenty of votes.

They got ripped off. Wish people would stop crying about it. But there's making stupid excuses and then there's CRAP LIKE THIS that's honestly just as bad.

If Hamilton is third in Norris voting I'll eat shoes. I'll put pen to paper on that if you like.

Hamilton is stupid because of reasons!

When he finishes in the top ten......maybe three in Norris voting this season......what will the excuse be then?

Always an excuse. That's the most pathetic point on all of this. NEVER to admit wrong or foolishness.
- JIwasinskiJr

Top 3 in Norris votes?
Sure if Subban, Karlson, Weber, Chara, Doughty, Seabrook, Keith, are all injured for extended periods then maybe just maybe he will make the top 3.

Top 3 in Norris votes?
Sure if Subban, Karlson, Weber, Chara, Doughty, Seabrook, Keith, are all injured for extended periods then maybe just maybe he will make the top 3.
- Thornton22

And then Byfuglien, Hedman and Gio would still be the top 3...

Ok I'll bite, A few GM's will right now , not knowing the outcome have reportedly offered the Hawks a significant package of high end players and prospects for Patrick Kane. Don't know if Boston was one of them , but these GM's are going on the premise of that this will be resolved, they have to part with a SIGNIFICANT package for Kane and they in turn will have a re committed Kane with some great years ahead of them. The Hawks know the latter also which is why, even though their team president wants to rid the team of Kane's off ice antics,will take their time and let it play out.
As far as the Bruins go, that original offer is garbage. The players who the Hawks would probably entertain the thought of obtaining in a potential Kane trade no longer play for the Bruins, Doug Hamilton, Milan Lucic & Tyler Seguin. Boys,2of the 3 would be a starting point. So just like the Canadiens, there really isn't even anything on the Bruins who would interest the Hawks , they have a lot of the same comparables that were mentioned as possible pieces being offered already on their own team. Bruins , given their turn over like the Hawks could potentially go from riches to rags and miss the playoffs given their turn over this summer.

Ok I'll bite, A few GM's will right now , not knowing the outcome have reportedly offered the Hawks a significant package of high end players and prospects for Patrick Kane. Don't know if Boston was one of them , but these GM's are going on the premise of that this will be resolved, they have to part with a SIGNIFICANT package for Kane and they in turn will have a re committed Kane with some great years ahead of them. The Hawks know the latter also which is why, even though their team president wants to rid the team of Kane's off ice antics,will take their time and let it play out.
As far as the Bruins go, that original offer is garbage. The players who the Hawks would probably entertain the thought of obtaining in a potential Kane trade no longer play for the Bruins, Doug Hamilton, Milan Lucic & Tyler Seguin. Boys,2of the 3 would be a starting point. So just like the Canadiens, there really isn't even anything on the Bruins who would interest the Hawks , they have a lot of the same comparables that were mentioned as possible pieces being offered already on their own team. Bruins , given their turn over like the Hawks could potentially go from riches to rags and miss the playoffs given their turn over this summer.
- wonthecup10