Hmmm. Lets give it a try

Kessel - Seguin, Hamilton, Knight.

Seguin (+ Peverley) - Eriksson, Smith, Fraser and Morrow
Hamilton - (1st) Senyshyn, (2nd) Forsbacka-Karlsson, (2nd) Lauzon

Knight - Traded for Zach Phillips
Smith - Traded for Jimmy Hayes.
Fraser - Lost to Waivers

So out of Kessel they have:
Eriksson
Phillips
Hayes
Morrow
Senyshyn
Forsbacka-Karlsson
Lauzon

and if you want to go back further to management young players, should note that Peverley ( + Valabik) was traded for Blake Wheeler (UFA Signing) + Mark Stuart. They did win the cup that year and that trade did help them win, but they did give up on Wheeler too quickly as well
- DDM-Coga

I think they woulda been better off just keeping Kessel or Seguin if you look at what has become of the pieces brought in. The bruins need scoring in the worst way. Eriksson is probably a two way 3rd liner at this point of his career and none of those prospects stand out.

kane is going to jail or back to chicago case closed
- redsfanhere

Those are two potential outcomes, but not all.

If you don't think the Hawks are considering trade possibilities—as an eventual outcome—you're dead wrong.

He's not getting dealt until the legal thing gets worked out. Then, I'd put the odds of him being dealt in the next 12 months at about 65-35, depending on where a lot of factors are.

Lol
Hamilton is far from elite. He has a lot of potential but the same thing was said about Kyle McLaren. He was supposed to be Bourques replacement, look how he panned out.
- Thornton22

Look how he played last year at age 21. You don't move guys like that. It's crazy.

The funny thing is, Bruins fans were calling him elite before he played a single game to brag about the Kessel trade.

In Seguins case it is probably true.
He gets more mins in Dallas then he would on Bruins.
He would have been 3rd line center in Boston. Better fit for him too in Dallas.


I have to disagree. I am pretty Bruin neutral. But, as a Hawks fan I was disappointed with the Seguin return right from the start. In my mind Seguin was well on his way to being AN ESTABLISHED STAR IN THE LEAGUE. Unless he was a TOTAL di--head in the lockerroom, they gave up on his talent WAY too early.

As for the Hamiltomn trade....I am still in disbelief on that one. Damn Flames are stacked on "D" now....grrrrrr.

What were the Bruins thinking here is beyond me!!!

Tuukka Rask ring a bell with Leafs Nation??
How did Phil work out for you?
- Thornton22

Sure we do. The Rask trade was terrible. The difference is we can admit we traded away a stud goalie while you guys can't admit you traded away a top 3 center in the NHL.

As for Phil he was a 80 point player 30 goal scorer for us. Can't really complain too much. It didn't work out because the team isn't good enough for him right now and he's in his prime.

Those are two potential outcomes, but not all.

If you don't think the Hawks are considering trade possibilities—as an eventual outcome—you're dead wrong.

He's not getting dealt until the legal thing gets worked out. Then, I'd put the odds of him being dealt in the next 12 months at about 65-35, depending on where a lot of factors are.
- John Jaeckel

I'm sure he would have a NTC?

edit: I read he has a full No Movement Clause...which at this point he is NOT willing to waive.

In Seguins case it is probably true.
He gets more mins in Dallas then he would on Bruins.
He would have been 3rd line center in Boston. Better fit for him too in Dallas.


I have to disagree. I am pretty Bruin neutral. But, as a Hawks fan I was disappointed with the Seguin return right from the start. In my mind Seguin was well on his way to being AN ESTABLISHED STAR IN THE LEAGUE. Unless he was a TOTAL di--head in the lockerroom, they gave up on his talent WAY too early.

As for the Hamiltomn trade....I am still in disbelief on that one. Damn Flames are stacked on "D" now....grrrrrr.

What were the Bruins thinking here is beyond me!!!
- hawk35

I agree about Seguin...we'll see about Hamilton...case is still open at this point IMO

The funny thing about the "Two Way" argument is, Erikkson was received in the Seguin trade and he was known as a two way star. How did that turn out?

You can't put a price on talent. Especially with scoring down so much in the NHL. Do people honestly think Seguin would have spent years as a #3 Centre in Boston? He's better than their top two centres right now.

People are going overboard with defensive play. There's no room to score anymore.

I think they woulda been better off just keeping Kessel or Seguin if you look at what has become of the pieces brought in. The bruins need scoring in the worst way. Eriksson is probably a two way 3rd liner at this point of his career and none of those prospects stand out.
- GardinerExpress

to be fair, they just drafted the 3 from the Hamilton trade, so you can't say they aren't Standing out. They have quantity of assets perhaps not quality right now.

Forsbacka-Karlsson is the one I think that has the most potential to do some damage at the NHL level. He was a good pick up. If they would have drafted Barzal in the 1st round instead of Senyshyn. That would have been quiet the haul by them

Look how he played last year at age 21. You don't move guys like that. It's crazy.

The funny thing is, Bruins fans were calling him elite before he played a single game to brag about the Kessel trade.
- RogerRoeper

IMO Hamilton and Myers are the same sort of Dman. You shouldn't trade them, but they do get traded. I don't think they will ever be legit Top Tier Dmen or be a Face of a Franchise sort of Dman, but they are going to be really good 2-3s on a team and those guys are the ones you should be holding onto.

IMO Hamilton and Myers are the same sort of Dman. You shouldn't trade them, but they do get traded. I don't think they will ever be legit Top Tier Dmen or be a Face of a Franchise sort of Dman, but they are going to be really good 2-3s on a team and those guys are the ones you should be holding onto.
- DDM-Coga

I think both teams will regret trading them.

Myers led WPG in ice time since the trade, and put up some points.

By all accounts he will be there #1 or 2 depending on how good Trouba is.

IMO Hamilton and Myers are the same sort of Dman. You shouldn't trade them, but they do get traded. I don't think they will ever be legit Top Tier Dmen or be a Face of a Franchise sort of Dman, but they are going to be really good 2-3s on a team and those guys are the ones you should be holding onto.
- DDM-Coga

So Seabrooks? Just a bunch of Seabrooks lol.

I think both teams will regret trading them.

Myers led WPG in ice time since the trade, and put up some points.

By all accounts he will be there #1 or 2 depending on how good Trouba is.
- sbroads24

I do think they will regret trading them. Those guys are anchors on a 2nd pairing or a complimentary piece on a top pairing. Big Mobile dmen shouldn't be given up on. But for whatever reason, Players like them they are always disposed of way too fast.

I think its bc they come into he league at a very young age, really impress early on, and then have a slow couple years...in their early 20s mind you, and then teams get impatient. Maybe don't rush them into the league at 18 and don't shame them if they aren't in Norris contention when they are 21. Cant have it both ways

I do think they will regret trading them. Those guys are anchors on a 2nd pairing or a complimentary piece on a top pairing. Big Mobile dmen shouldn't be given up on. But for whatever reason, Players like them they are always disposed of way too fast.

I think its bc they come into he league at a very young age, really impress early on, and then have a slow couple years...in their early 20s mind you, and then teams get impatient. Maybe don't rush them into the league at 18 and don't shame them if they aren't in Norris contention when they are 21. Cant have it both ways
- DDM-Coga

You do understand this is Hockeybuzz right? This logic is not allowed here.

You do understand this is Hockeybuzz right? This logic is not allowed here.
- Aaron_85

Oh right. Elite Busts, 1967 Flyers Flyers Flyers, Ive been a big fan of this kid for a long time.

Oh right. Elite Busts, 1967 Flyers Flyers Flyers, Ive been a big fan of this kid for a long time.
- DDM-Coga

But is there more to come?

I do think they will regret trading them. Those guys are anchors on a 2nd pairing or a complimentary piece on a top pairing. Big Mobile dmen shouldn't be given up on. But for whatever reason, Players like them they are always disposed of way too fast.

I think its bc they come into he league at a very young age, really impress early on, and then have a slow couple years...in their early 20s mind you, and then teams get impatient. Maybe don't rush them into the league at 18 and don't shame them if they aren't in Norris contention when they are 21. Cant have it both ways
- DDM-Coga

You make valid points. It's a shame how teams are less patient these days. I know Schenn wasn't as touted as those guys but similar story. Comes in, plays great for a year and a bit and then falls off and the team treats him like a 10 year vet under performing instead of a 20 year old trying to find his NHL game.

IMO Hamilton and Myers are the same sort of Dman. You shouldn't trade them, but they do get traded. I don't think they will ever be legit Top Tier Dmen or be a Face of a Franchise sort of Dman, but they are going to be really good 2-3s on a team and those guys are the ones you should be holding onto.
- DDM-Coga

The issue with Myers is its been years since his rookie season and he's never equalled it.

We'll see if Hamilton can keep building on last season.

You make valid points. It's a shame how teams are less patient these days. I know Schenn wasn't as touted as those guys but similar story. Comes in, plays great for a year and a bit and then falls off and the team treats him like a 10 year vet under performing instead of a 20 year old trying to find his NHL game.
- Aaron_85

Schenn can't skate and had no talent. I'm not sure if I agree he played great as a rookie.

The issue with Schenn wasn't how the Leafs developed him, it's his lack of talent.

Schenn can't skate and had no talent. I'm not sure if I agree he played great as a rookie.

The issue with Schenn wasn't how the Leafs developed him, it's his lack of talent.
- RogerRoeper

He could have been a better player I think if the Leafs weren't idiots. Oh well. We have JVR instead now.

You make valid points. It's a shame how teams are less patient these days. I know Schenn wasn't as touted as those guys but similar story. Comes in, plays great for a year and a bit and then falls off and the team treats him like a 10 year vet under performing instead of a 20 year old trying to find his NHL game.
- Aaron_85

Its not just teams faults, its the fans faults too. Anyone drafted in the Top 3 now, if they don't turn out to be a superstar, Art Ross winner, you have people chirping they are busts.

There are people who say Landeskog is a bust, JVR is a bust and Probably Sam Reinhart too if he doesn't put up 60pts next season. For some strange reason its engrained if you have a Top pick you are getting a superstar. Not every draft year has Superstar Franchise changing prospects in them. Just putting unfair stock into players and prospects bc they are drafted into the Top 3.

The issue with Myers is its been years since his rookie season and he's never equalled it.

We'll see if Hamilton can keep building on last season.
- RogerRoeper

The team took a nosedive after that year.

Literally as soon as he got to WPG he started to produce to an almost identical PPG as he did his rookie year

The team took a nosedive after that year.

Literally as soon as he got to WPG he started to produce to an almost identical PPG as he did his rookie year
- sbroads24

and to be honest, thats why I think Zads is going to have a rock solid year for the Avs. He will get to play with more established guys in Johnson Barrie, and have Beauchemin to learn from. Hes more shelter now in that Top 4 and just can really work on his game and won't be asked to be the rock of a D Core too soon

Look how he played last year at age 21. You don't move guys like that. It's crazy.
- RogerRoeper

You move "guys like that" when they won't resign. Would it have been better to wait for an offer sheet to come in and get a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd in return or let him sit unsigned? Please tell me how that would be better.

In Seguins case it is probably true.
He gets more mins in Dallas then he would on Bruins.
He would have been 3rd line center in Boston. Better fit for him too in Dallas.


I have to disagree. I am pretty Bruin neutral. But, as a Hawks fan I was disappointed with the Seguin return right from the start. In my mind Seguin was well on his way to being AN ESTABLISHED STAR IN THE LEAGUE. Unless he was a TOTAL di--head in the lockerroom, they gave up on his talent WAY too early.

As for the Hamiltomn trade....I am still in disbelief on that one. Damn Flames are stacked on "D" now....grrrrrr.

What were the Bruins thinking here is beyond me!!!
- hawk35

Yet again... Dougie was NOT going to resign. He wanted to leave. His reasons are his own and we will likely never know the whole story. Something had to be really bad for a young player wanting to leave a team.