The funny thing about the "Two Way" argument is, Erikkson was received in the Seguin trade and he was known as a two way star. How did that turn out?

You can't put a price on talent. Especially with scoring down so much in the NHL. Do people honestly think Seguin would have spent years as a #3 Centre in Boston? He's better than their top two centres right now.

People are going overboard with defensive play. There's no room to score anymore.
- RogerRoeper

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty damn sure the role of a center is to win faceoffs. In Boston yes he would be their 3rd center cuz he us not as good as Bergy or Krejci at faceoffs. They could have moved him to the wing and traded Lucic or Horton sure. Hindsight is 20/20 and everyone was sick or his poop anyways.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty damn sure the role of a center is to win faceoffs. In Boston yes he would be their 3rd center cuz he us not as good as Bergy or Krejci at faceoffs. They could have moved him to the wing and traded Lucic or Horton sure. Hindsight is 20/20 and everyone was sick or his poop anyways.
- Thornton22

One of them, yes. Far from the only thing.

Yet again... Dougie was NOT going to resign. He wanted to leave. His reasons are his own and we will likely never know the whole story. Something had to be really bad for a young player wanting to leave a team.
- Thornton22

I'm really hesitant to believe anything that comes out of Boston anymore. Anytime they trade a player the stories immediately come out about what a terrible lockerroom presence he was. It's getting old.

The Bruins are leaking stuff to their media.

It’s somewhat similar to the Los Angeles Kings trying to find a way to dump Slava Voynov.
- tyanderson

The Kings have made no efforts to try and get rid of Slava Voynov. If they had, this would be a good comparison, but they haven't.

I'm really hesitant to believe anything that comes out of Boston anymore. Anytime they trade a player the stories immediately come out about what a terrible lockerroom presence he was. It's getting old.

The Bruins are leaking stuff to their media.
- RogerRoeper

And yet.... everything the Bruins said about Kessel, Thornton and Seguin turned out to be true. Didn't it? Not saying it was a reason to offload star players for scraps but let's not pretend there wasn't anything to the things that were said about those guys on their way out of town.

One of them, yes. Far from the only thing.
- RogerRoeper

And at this present time I'd take Bergeron and Krejci over Seguin in a playoff series seven days a week.

And at this present time I'd take Bergeron and Krejci over Seguin in a playoff series seven days a week.
- PoketheBear

But what about for a full season now and in the future?

And yet.... everything the Bruins said about Kessel, Thornton and Seguin turned out to be true. Didn't it? Not saying it was a reason to offload star players for scraps but let's not pretend there wasn't anything to the things that were said about those guys on their way out of town.
- PoketheBear

Not really. All played really well once they left Boston.

Not really. All played really well once they left Boston.
- RogerRoeper

Some of these Bruins fans are swallowing anything Sweeney wants them to.

Some of these Bruins fans are swallowing anything Sweeney wants them to.
- jfkst1

What is Sweeney forcing us to swallow? I'm so sick of this stupid narrative surrounding young stars in Boston, it doesn't exist, it's all made up by you guys. 4 young players traded by 3 different management groups for different reasons

Thornton: team was a tire fire and decided to reboot. Wanted to build around Bergeron instead of Thornton. Good call

Kessel: wasn't committed to D, Julian wasn't a fan and if I recall correctly he was a pita during contract talks. Got a haul for him, won the cup without a significant replacement. Win

Seguin: This was a mistake, I'd agree to a certain extent that Boston was arrogant and thought they didn't need his talent. To be fair though, it seems like his rumored partying is probably a real thing. People always compare Seguin to Kane...

Hamilton: Boston offered multiple contracts and Dougie turned his nose up at them. Why? Who knows. They WANTED TO KEEP HIM. I think once Sweeney realized he wasn't signing he panicked. Rookie GM mistake

What is Sweeney forcing us to swallow? I'm so sick of this stupid narrative surrounding young stars in Boston, it doesn't exist, it's all made up by you guys. 4 young players traded by 3 different management groups for different reasons

Thornton: team was a tire fire and decided to reboot. Wanted to build around Bergeron instead of Thornton. Good call

Kessel: wasn't committed to D, Julian wasn't a fan and if I recall correctly he was a pita during contract talks. Got a haul for him, won the cup without a significant replacement. Win

Seguin: This was a mistake, I'd agree to a certain extent that Boston was arrogant and thought they didn't need his talent. To be fair though, it seems like his rumored partying is probably a real thing. People always compare Seguin to Kane...

Hamilton: Boston offered multiple contracts and Dougie turned his nose up at them. Why? Who knows. They WANTED TO KEEP HIM. I think once Sweeney realized he wasn't signing he panicked. Rookie GM mistake
- Shaundre93

Didn't they sacrifice Seguin to try and keep Horton according to that Behind the B webcast? It always seemed like they were trying to make rationale of why they need to trade seguin, make the cap room to keep Horton over him. Ultimately the screwed up that whole situation. Lost both of them and even if they would have kept horton his back was done anyways.

Anyway you look at it, it seemed like the talking heads at Boston really had that whole situation wrong

Its not just teams faults, its the fans faults too. Anyone drafted in the Top 3 now, if they don't turn out to be a superstar, Art Ross winner, you have people chirping they are busts.

There are people who say Landeskog is a bust, JVR is a bust and Probably Sam Reinhart too if he doesn't put up 60pts next season. For some strange reason its engrained if you have a Top pick you are getting a superstar. Not every draft year has Superstar Franchise changing prospects in them. Just putting unfair stock into players and prospects bc they are drafted into the Top 3.
- DDM-Coga

Makes sense. I can see it too. You see it all the time when a lot of fans try to make deals to get the 1st overall pick. When in reality, just drafting and developing well can lead to success.

I think JVR as is is a solid 2nd overall pick. He's a quality winger.

What is Sweeney forcing us to swallow? I'm so sick of this stupid narrative surrounding young stars in Boston, it doesn't exist, it's all made up by you guys. 4 young players traded by 3 different management groups for different reasons

Thornton: team was a tire fire and decided to reboot. Wanted to build around Bergeron instead of Thornton. Good call

Kessel: wasn't committed to D, Julian wasn't a fan and if I recall correctly he was a pita during contract talks. Got a haul for him, won the cup without a significant replacement. Win

Seguin: This was a mistake, I'd agree to a certain extent that Boston was arrogant and thought they didn't need his talent. To be fair though, it seems like his rumored partying is probably a real thing. People always compare Seguin to Kane...

Hamilton: Boston offered multiple contracts and Dougie turned his nose up at them. Why? Who knows. They WANTED TO KEEP HIM. I think once Sweeney realized he wasn't signing he panicked. Rookie GM mistake
- Shaundre93

Again, you can trade young talented players, but getting good value in the trade is imperative and Boston failed to do that with Seguin and refused to learn their lesson by making an even more egregious mistake with Hamilton. I'm not a Bruins fan, so I hope Sweeney keeps ruining the team.

Makes sense. I can see it too. You see it all the time when a lot of fans try to make deals to get the 1st overall pick. When in reality, just drafting and developing well can lead to success.

I think JVR as is is a solid 2nd overall pick. He's a quality winger.
- Aaron_85

Same as Landeskog, just people needs to realize that not ever 2nd or 3rd overall is going to be another Malkin or Toews, and they are not busts if they are not future hall of famers

I'm really hesitant to believe anything that comes out of Boston anymore. Anytime they trade a player the stories immediately come out about what a terrible lockerroom presence he was. It's getting old.

The Bruins are leaking stuff to their media.
- RogerRoeper

Red Sox and Bruins both seem to do this now.
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And again for the Bs homers........no team has won the Cup without at least one SECOND OVERALL pick since Detroit.

No team has even MADE IT TO THE FINALS with out at least one SECOND OVERALL pick except for NJ with the FOURTH overall pick since Detroit.

Almost all these same teams have numerous top TWELVE overall picks. These are facts. FYI.

Boston has traded away a SECOND and NINTH overall in only a few years.....

Again, you can trade young talented players, but getting good value in the trade is imperative and Boston failed to do that with Seguin and refused to learn their lesson by making an even more egregious mistake with Hamilton. I'm not a Bruins fan, so I hope Sweeney keeps ruining the team.
- jfkst1

The Bruins absolutely didn't get close to full value in those last two trades, can't argue that. Im just sick of the narrative that they can't handle young talent. There were very different circumstances for each trade, and I feel like the Seguin trade is the only one where the B's truly gave up on a player. I don't believe Hamilton is an "uppity kid" but I do believe he weasled his way out of Boston

What is Sweeney forcing us to swallow? I'm so sick of this stupid narrative surrounding young stars in Boston, it doesn't exist, it's all made up by you guys. 4 young players traded by 3 different management groups for different reasons

Thornton: team was a tire fire and decided to reboot. Wanted to build around Bergeron instead of Thornton. Good call

Kessel: wasn't committed to D, Julian wasn't a fan and if I recall correctly he was a pita during contract talks. Got a haul for him, won the cup without a significant replacement. Win

Seguin: This was a mistake, I'd agree to a certain extent that Boston was arrogant and thought they didn't need his talent. To be fair though, it seems like his rumored partying is probably a real thing. People always compare Seguin to Kane...

Hamilton: Boston offered multiple contracts and Dougie turned his nose up at them. Why? Who knows. They WANTED TO KEEP HIM. I think once Sweeney realized he wasn't signing he panicked. Rookie GM mistake
- Shaundre93

just feeding the trolls

Can we just play some hockey games already so Ty doesn't have to write these hypothetical articles for guys even if they were on the market, the B's don't have the ammo to go get?

- PoketheBear

That was my response exactly when I saw the suggested proposal of Marchand, Kelly and the stick boy for Kane. If he goes east, IF he even is dealt, prolly Buffalo orNYR, with Nash possibly being the center piece coming back with 1 or 2 others.

That was my response exactly when I saw the suggested proposal of Marchand, Kelly and the stick boy for Kane. If he goes east, IF he even is dealt, prolly Buffalo orNYR, with Nash possibly being the center piece coming back with 1 or 2 others.
- wonthecup10

K.

Kelly Marchand and whoever else is a garbage offer for Kane. You're right.

Lucic and Seguin for Kane is a deal I wouldn't do in a million years either, rapist or not.

Seth Jones is a RFA next season and would likely get around Hamilton money........
I wonder if the Peds would trade Weber?

Saw on another site that Erik Johnson was supposedly in faint rumors.....he is a UFA for Colorado after this season.

Seabrook is a FA after this season........Shattenkirk still has a season after this one.

Seems that there may be a lot good D-men flying all over the place this season!

Chi and St. L are against the cap already. And some good young players like Forsberg and Mackinnon may get big raises from there clubs causing teams to look for salary dumps.

This "stagnate" salary cap may make some teams as loopy as the Bs this season into next.

K.

Kelly Marchand and whoever else is a garbage offer for Kane. You're right.

Lucic and Seguin for Kane is a deal I wouldn't do in a million years either, rapist or not.
- PoketheBear

I am a Lucic fan , I hope in some infinite wisdomy way, Milan Lucic makes it to Chicago as a UFA next summer, depending on what kind of space and need they have. Al Secord was /will always be my favorite Hawk. Like players like Looch and Big Al.
I hope they teach this little pee Rick a lesson and trade his arse right out of here.
Anybody could have had happened to them what happened in Hamburg, give ya that, But when this little Shlit stood on Stage at the rally and basically rubbed dog crap with his comment in everybody from Rocky Wirtz on down's face, That is what angered most.
They will get high end players for him if this is cleared up, but doubtful he stays long after that with John McDonough running the show.

Love Looch, but understood the move. Word was he wanted max term, don't know if Bowman would do that either. Sad to see him go, unique player and a lot of fun to watch when he was on.

I do think he goes to free agency and some team overdoes it.

Didn't they sacrifice Seguin to try and keep Horton according to that Behind the B webcast? It always seemed like they were trying to make rationale of why they need to trade seguin, make the cap room to keep Horton over him. Ultimately the screwed up that whole situation. Lost both of them and even if they would have kept horton his back was done anyways.

Anyway you look at it, it seemed like the talking heads at Boston really had that whole situation wrong
- DDM-Coga

Everyone knows that Seguin was banging Hortons wife, Chiarelli's daughter, and Charlie Jacobs mother. He had to go.