Kane - ROR - Reinhart
Moulson - Eichel - Ennis
- Der Kaiser

That's a sexy top 6

That's a sexy top 6
- rangerdanger94

It will change by December.

The high end guys we acquired both have issues.

Bogosian hasn't been very good, and Kane had attitude/consistency issues. In a perfect world we got two high end players

In reality, I think Lemiuex and Myers will have a similar impact to what Kane/Bogo have here, and Armia/1st rounder could end up tipping the scales.

The only safe impact player we acquired is ROR
- sbroads24

The high end guys we acquired both have issues.

Bogosian hasn't been very good, and Kane had attitude/consistency issues. In a perfect world we got two high end players

In reality, I think Lemiuex and Myers will have a similar impact to what Kane/Bogo have here, and Armia/1st rounder could end up tipping the scales.

The only safe impact player we acquired is ROR
- sbroads24

Not a jab at you but why do people think Lemiuex will amount to anything in the NHL? Is it because of who his Dad is? I have seen him play maybe twice in my life so the sample size isn't great but I didn't really notice him on the ice either time. My guess is there is a reason he got drafted in the 2nd round in one of the worst draft in recent history.

The high end guys we acquired both have issues.

Bogosian hasn't been very good, and Kane had attitude/consistency issues. In a perfect world we got two high end players

In reality, I think Lemiuex and Myers will have a similar impact to what Kane/Bogo have here, and Armia/1st rounder could end up tipping the scales.

The only safe impact player we acquired is ROR
- sbroads24

the only question mark with ROR, can he be the guy who creates and carries the offensive load for his line. In his break out year of 64pts he played LW all season with Duchene. Last year when finally put together w/ Landeskog and MacKinnon they started to tear it up as soon as MacK's shooting percentage started to bounce back to the norm.

In both cases, he has always been on a line with Forwards who jus have a natural scoring touch and has gelled with them bc of his hockey sense. So it will be inserting story line going forward with him to see what sort of chemistry he develops and with who.

Not a jab at you but why do people think Lemiuex will amount to anything in the NHL? Is it because of who his Dad is? I have seen him play maybe twice in my life so the sample size isn't great but I didn't really notice him on the ice either time. My guess is there is a reason he got drafted in the 2nd round in one of the worst draft in recent history.
- BigStew

Didn't he put up 40 goals in the OHL last year? I think hes going to be a nice Fringe Top 6 Winger like his dad. He will be a guy like Shaw once he makes the jump to the NHL.

He better be bc I think eventually he makes his return to his hometown Denver

the only question mark with ROR, can he be the guy who creates and carries the offensive load for his line. In his break out year of 64pts he played LW all season with Duchene. Last year when finally put together w/ Landeskog and MacKinnon they started to tear it up as soon as MacK's shooting percentage started to bounce back to the norm.

In both cases, he has always been on a line with Forwards who jus have a natural scoring touch and has gelled with them bc of his hockey sense. So it will be inserting story line going forward with him to see what sort of chemistry he develops and with who.
- DDM-Coga

I don't think he has the skill to do so but it doesn't matter. Long term he'll probably end up playing on eichel's wing or be the #2C.

Didn't he put up 40 goals in the OHL last year? I think hes going to be a nice Fringe Top 6 Winger like his dad. He will be a guy like Shaw once he makes the jump to the NHL.

He better be bc I think eventually he makes his return to his hometown Denver
- DDM-Coga

Still holding on to the dream of Kasdorf being the best player in the deal.

I don't think he has the skill to do so but it doesn't matter. Long term he'll probably end up playing on eichel's wing or be the #2C.
- Sabresfan-365

I think in December he moves to Eichels wing and Reinhart goes 2C

I don't think he has the skill to do so but it doesn't matter. Long term he'll probably end up playing on eichel's wing or be the #2C.
- Sabresfan-365

He doesn't have the natural skill, but hes smart and he works hard. His ability to read plays and be in the right place at the right time on both ends of the ice is his greatest skill.

He might not drive the play, but he for sure has the ability to keep it alive in the offensive zone. His production will really come from his wingers. So if Kane can get his head out of his ass and stop he shooting high and wide nonsense always trying to pick the corner, then they might be onto something special.

Didn't he put up 40 goals in the OHL last year? I think hes going to be a nice Fringe Top 6 Winger like his dad. He will be a guy like Shaw once he makes the jump to the NHL.

He better be bc I think eventually he makes his return to his hometown Denver
- DDM-Coga

He seems like a Brad May type guy to me, nothing wrong with that but lots of guys out there that have that same skill set. I just don't see why people are upset about losing him.

IMO take Shaw off the Hawks and I think you see a lot different player than the one you see when he plays with the talent on that team.

Not a jab at you but why do people think Lemiuex will amount to anything in the NHL? Is it because of who his Dad is? I have seen him play maybe twice in my life so the sample size isn't great but I didn't really notice him on the ice either time. My guess is there is a reason he got drafted in the 2nd round in one of the worst draft in recent history.
- BigStew

I think it's pretty safe to assume Lemiuex will be an NHL'er. He's developed nicely over the last year. He scored much more than people thought he would and he has an edge to his game.

He seems like a Brad May type guy to me, nothing wrong with that but lots of guys out there that have that same skill set. I just don't see why people are upset about losing him.

IMO take Shaw off the Hawks and I think you see a lot different player than the one you see when he plays with the talent on that team.
- BigStew

McGinn is another guy that Lemieux could be similar to. McGinn put up 40 goals after being drafted, showing he has that ability as well.

But they can always fall on their big body physical style of play if the scoring isn't happening.

Guys like McGinn, Shaw, and perhaps Lemieux are really good to have on your team. You can plug them in your Top 9 in different roles and they could fill a need at any given time.

He doesn't have the natural skill, but hes smart and he works hard. His ability to read plays and be in the right place at the right time on both ends of the ice is his greatest skill.

He might not drive the play, but he for sure has the ability to keep it alive in the offensive zone. His production will really come from his wingers. So if Kane can get his head out of his ass and stop he shooting high and wide nonsense always trying to pick the corner, then they might be onto something special.
- DDM-Coga

He is who he is, no point pretending he will change. Like Kaiser said, good chance he pairs up with Eichel and I think that could very fun to watch. Reinhart is probably a better option with Kane.

the only question mark with ROR, can he be the guy who creates and carries the offensive load for his line. In his break out year of 64pts he played LW all season with Duchene. Last year when finally put together w/ Landeskog and MacKinnon they started to tear it up as soon as MacK's shooting percentage started to bounce back to the norm.

In both cases, he has always been on a line with Forwards who jus have a natural scoring touch and has gelled with them bc of his hockey sense. So it will be inserting story line going forward with him to see what sort of chemistry he develops and with who.
- DDM-Coga

Honestly, I think once this team has Reinhart and Eichel in their prime, the subtle things ROR does we will appreciate more.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him come off as a dissapointment his first year or two and get 45-55 points

McGinn is another guy that Lemieux could be similar to. McGinn put up 40 goals after being drafted, showing he has that ability as well.

But they can always fall on their big body physical style of play if the scoring isn't happening.

Guys like McGinn, Shaw, and perhaps Lemieux are really good to have on your team. You can plug them in your Top 9 in different roles and they could fill a need at any given time.
- DDM-Coga

That's all fine and everything but I'm not going to get upset over a guy that you can pretty much draft every year or pick up in free agency when you want assuming you manage your cap well.

He is who he is, no point pretending he will change. Like Kaiser said, good chance he pairs up with Eichel and I think that could very fun to watch. Reinhart is probably a better option with Kane.
- Sabresfan-365

I watch a lot of Jets games (being from Manitoba originally) so Kane will drive you nuts with his shot. Its heavy, but inaccurate. The amount of times he comes down on the wing, goes high and rings it off the glass and out of the offensive zone. Such a momentum killer if you are playing a team who is good in transition.

That's all fine and everything but I'm not going to get upset over a guy that you can pretty much draft every year or pick up in free agency when you want assuming you manage your cap well.
- BigStew

Thats fair, and yes you can always get your hands on guys like that. But in a cap world. Its better to draft and develop those guys and get the 1.5m a season agitator while they are RFAs vs the 3m+ agitator that McGinn will be getting next year in UFA.

Honestly, I think once this team has Reinhart and Eichel in their prime, the subtle things ROR does we will appreciate more.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him come off as a dissapointment his first year or two and get 45-55 points
- sbroads24

I have always said that his true value on the team is not his offensive stat line. He may never be a consistent 60 point producer but he brings more than just that.

Its just dealing with the other team trolls who will see 7.5m and 50pts that you will have to constantly deal with bc they don't see what ROR does on the ice on a consistent basis.

I watch a lot of Jets games (being from Manitoba originally) so Kane will drive you nuts with his shot. Its heavy, but inaccurate. The amount of times he comes down on the wing, goes high and rings it off the glass and out of the offensive zone. Such a momentum killer if you are playing a team who is good in transition.
- DDM-Coga

Yea i've seen him do that a lot, hopefully with a better playmaking centre he'll be taking more high quality shots.

Thats fair, and yes you can always get your hands on guys like that. But in a cap world. Its better to draft and develop those guys and get the 1.5m a season agitator vs the 3m+ agitator that McGinn will be getting next year in UFA.
- DDM-Coga

That the thing, we had way to many guys in the system in the 19 to 21 age, players needed to be traded or cut outright as we couldn't give every one a contract. I could be wrong but I think we will be fine without him.

That's all fine and everything but I'm not going to get upset over a guy that you can pretty much draft every year or pick up in free agency when you want assuming you manage your cap well.
- BigStew

I think you are under rating his skill set.

He can skate, shoot and hit. People were very surprised he lasted to 31.

I think you are under rating his skill set.

He can skate, shoot and hit. People were very surprised he lasted to 31.
- sbroads24

I could be, time will tell I guess.

I think you are under rating his skill set.

He can skate, shoot and hit. People were very surprised he lasted to 31.
- sbroads24

most people had him pegged at 23 by the Avs in most mock drafts. Lemieux is a nice prospect. Quality piece

That the thing, we had way to many guys in the system in the 19 to 21 age, players needed to be traded or cut outright as we couldn't give every one a contract. I could be wrong but I think we will be fine without him.
- BigStew

You will be fine without him but I don't think hes going to a write off as a player. Hes a quality prospect but what could the Sabres do, he didn't want to sign his ELC w/ them so might as well use him in a bigger trade.