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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Sep 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
He showed up game after game and couldn't produce. I think that was a detriment to the team. It's great and all he tried to man up, but halfway through the season when you are laying on your back on the floor because you can't sleep, it's time to be honest with the training staff and get better and allow someone healthy play.
- funmaster18[/quote

Yeah it was a detriment to the team, but whats the outcome of last season if he did score say, 40pts... maybe we pick 10the or 11th instead of 7th. You gotta look at it as a blessing in disguise. Maybe we don't get provorov if umby was really effective Las year. We just have to look past a single unproductive season, and hope he comes back extra motivated
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Umberger Eager to Erase Thoughts of Injury-Marred 2014-15 Season
- bmeltzer

I'd pull Simon Gagne out of retirement over having this current RJ Umberger. I have no faithin him.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Sep 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
He should have a Danny-like retirement night
- FlyersFirst

Which game would you suggest: Kings or Boston?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
What a bum hole umberger is.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
Kinda surprised they didn't see these problems when they gave Umberger a physical
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 15 @ 11:46 AM ET

Yeah it was a detriment to the team, but whats the outcome of last season if he did score say, 40pts... maybe we pick 10the or 11th instead of 7th. You gotta look at it as a blessing in disguise. Maybe we don't get provorov if umby was really effective Las year. We just have to look past a single unproductive season, and hope he comes back extra motivated

- benjichronic


Who knows, if he bows out early in the season when he knows he can't play and someone else gets more time and provides a spark, things could have been different. I agree it likely wouldn't have changed anything, I just don't think we should be patting him on the back for hiding injuries from the team that clearly prevented him from playing well.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 15 @ 11:50 AM ET

It was nice to see that during halftime, someone actually bothered to inform the Eagles that preseason was over and this game actually counts.

How can you come out utterly flat in the season opener? Pathetic.

- BiggE

It was like watching a Flyers game.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 15 @ 11:50 AM ET
I just don't get this "warrior attitude" stuff sometimes. If you can't skate you can't play. I don't care how tough a guy is if he can't produce. A veteran, like Umbereger, shouldn't be afraid to admit he's hurt. If players arent going to admit to injuries then isnt it up to the training staff to be more proactive? Everyone who saw Umberger play could see there was something wrong with him. Can't a trainer test a players strength and see he can't push off? Don't you order tests at that point? Get an MRI? If they see he's trying to gut it out thru an injury and is playing poorly, why not get it fix right then?
- Dkos


It's a fear of losing your job. In sports, coaches are reluctant to move veterans down in the lineup if they're good people and consistently working hard. If a player sits out with an injury and the next guy up outplays him, then the coaches have a much easier decision.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
No Gagne?

- missingmike


Active players only.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
Doesn't help also the Parkey can't kick field goals like an NFL kicker. That was a doosey
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
Did you guys see John Tavares comments about Ryan Pulock? Compares him to Shea Weber.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Which game would you suggest: Kings or Boston?
- missingmike

Tampa
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Doesn't help also the Parkey can't kick field goals like an NFL kicker. That was a doosey
- 2Real


should have just went for it. kelly wanted to, but second guessed himself
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
Did you guys see John Tavares comments about Ryan Pulock? Compares him to Shea Weber.
- TheGreat28


I don't know about all of that, but if he's talking slapshot, then he has a point. Dude can crank one.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
Fat guy "athletes" who need oxygen tanks buzz
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
should have just went for it. kelly wanted to, but second guessed himself
- funmaster18

pretty much i wonder how many more crap shows like this before he's fired
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Sep 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
I don't know about all of that, but if he's talking slapshot, then he has a point. Dude can crank one.
- jmatchett383


“I don’t want to put any pressure on the kid, but he reminds me of Shea Weber,” Tavares said. “He’s a big kid, strong kid, and very mobile. He’s got tremendous poise with the puck. It’s not like he goes up to the point and pounds it. He knows when to shoot it and knows how to shoot it. When he does shoot it, it’s heavy and accurate.”
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
pretty much i wonder how many more crap shows like this before he's fired
- 2Real


If this season ends up the same as the last two then you have to wonder
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:12 PM ET
Fat guy "athletes" who need oxygen tanks buzz
- jmatchett383


guys complaining about fat guy "athletes" who need oxygen tanks buzz buzz
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Sep 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
pretty much i wonder how many more crap shows like this before he's fired
- 2Real

an NFL kicker should be able to make a 44 yard FG in a Dome. With that said, I would have gone for it. Too much time left, Bryant is automatic and a TD would have forced Atl to score a TD
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
He showed up game after game and couldn't produce. I think that was a detriment to the team. It's great and all he tried to man up, but halfway through the season when you are laying on your back on the floor because you can't sleep, it's time to be honest with the training staff and get better and allow someone healthy play.
- funmaster18



It absolutey was a detriment to the team. I think it was absurd that he tried to play through that, and didn't let the team know how bad he was hurt. I just don't think he made excuses during the season for his play.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
Kinda surprised they didn't see these problems when they gave Umberger a physical
- PhillySportsGuy



I think some of the injuries occurred during the season.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
It absolutey was a detriment to the team. I think it was absurd that he tried to play through that, and didn't let the team know how bad he was hurt. I just don't think he made excuses during the season for his play.
- MJL


well then sir, you and I are on the same page
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
It absolutey was a detriment to the team. I think it was absurd that he tried to play through that, and didn't let the team know how bad he was hurt. I just don't think he made excuses during the season for his play.
- MJL

Put differently, his fear of "making excuses" was a detriment to the team.
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