That's a great point.

I agree with that almost sight unseen.
- mayorofangrytown

Now you patronize me. This is getting out of control

I feel like the trade was hastily made. It's like they really wanted to move Hartnell out
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree with that. Almost like Hexy was flexing his muscles, showing that no one was safe.

Now you patronize me. This is getting out of control
- PhillySportsGuy

"Hockey trade"
"Context"
"Top-4 defenseman"

Now you patronize me. This is getting out of control
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm buying what you're selling.

I agree with that. Almost like Hexy was flexing his muscles, showing that no one was safe.
- Jimmygrazz

GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!!!!

I'm buying what you're selling.
- mayorofangrytown

*Looks on with skepticism*

GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!!!!

- mayorofangrytown

Ron Hextall doesn't need a lawnmower. He just imagines that every blade of grass is Kent Nilsson.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=778793

I feel like the trade was hastily made. It's like they really wanted to move Hartnell out
- PhillySportsGuy

If we look at Hextall's m.o., he doesn't do anything hastily. He is very process oriented, and he takes his time. I believe they expected Umberger to be much better than he was.

Hockey primer.

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...o-the-best-of-doc-emrick/

And they all lived happily ever after. Except Brendl.
- jmatchett383

Now you patronize me. This is getting out of control
- PhillySportsGuy

That's usually when he strikes.

Flyers listed at 75:1 odds to be Stanley Cup champions.. 4th worst odds in the nhl

https://youtu.be/DnRDxTiwvnc

Lol at Giroux

Flyers listed at 75:1 odds to be Stanley Cup champions.. 4th worst odds in the nhl
- Tfaehner

If they're out by Thankgiving and trades commence that's a possibility. You know Hextall isn't going to add anything at the deadline even if they're close. He'll still be trading away aging pieces. That's his M.O.

Hockey primer.

http://www.letsgoflyers.n...o-the-best-of-doc-emrick/
- MJL

I don't need a primer video for flyer hockey.

If they're out by Thankgiving and trades commence that's a possibility. You know Hextall isn't going to add anything at the deadline even if they're close. He'll still be trading away aging pieces. That's his M.O.
- mayorofangrytown

If the Flyers are in a legitimate playoff spot, I don't see him trading away veterans. He hasn't established an M.O. for what he would do if the team is in a playoff spot around the deadline, as a GM.

I don't need a primer video for flyer hockey.
- Just5

Good for you. To each his own.

If they're out by Thankgiving and trades commence that's a possibility. You know Hextall isn't going to add anything at the deadline even if they're close. He'll still be trading away aging pieces. That's his M.O.
- mayorofangrytown

Yeah no idea what he does in contention think it's a balancing act between can young guys contribute and what can we get back in deals. I don't think he's dealing people for 5th rounders. Unless it's vinny. Lol.

I feel like the trade was hastily made. It's like they really wanted to move Hartnell out
- PhillySportsGuy

Does anyone know why they wanted him out so bad? He was a good offensive player, stats show he's not a defensive liabilty, he was a leader, fan favorite, I still don't understand what the rush was.

Yeah no idea what he does in contention think it's a balancing act between can young guys contribute and what can we get back in deals. I don't think he's dealing people for 5th rounders. Unless it's vinny. Lol.
- Tfaehner

Last year they were like 6 pts out and he traded Timmonen and Coburn and added nothing. He's in cap correction mode. I'm Not saying they were bad trades, just that he's realistic about where this team is and isn't going to add to a first round loser

Last year they were like 6 pts out and he traded Timmonen and Coburn and added nothing. He's in cap correction mode. I'm Not saying they were bad trades, just that he's realistic about where this team is and isn't going to add to a first round loser
- mayorofangrytown

Last year around the deadline, the team was floundering, and going backwards, and showing no signs of moving up into a playoff spot. There's a difference between not adding, and not subtracting.

Does anyone know why they wanted him out so bad? He was a good offensive player, stats show he's not a defensive liabilty, he was a leader, fan favorite, I still don't understand what the rush was.
- benjichronic

The fear was that, at the end of his contract, his body would be worn down by his style of play and, coupled with his age, his contract would be an albatross. Basically, what Umberger was like last year, but 3 years from now, when they expect to contend. So they decided to take their lumps now.

The fear was that, at the end of his contract, his body would be worn down by his style of play and, coupled with his age, his contract would be an albatross. Basically, what Umberger was like last year, but 3 years from now, when they expect to contend. So they decided to take their lumps now.
- jmatchett383

I also heard he was a bad kind of a leader in the sense that he came in out of shape religiously every year and he didn't buy in to Berube system. Never heard a true confirmation this was part of the reason but it's been speculated.