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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Jake Virtanen In the Driver's Seat for an NHL Job
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 8:22 PM ET
Playing in the Q against boys....but no one will know who the better pick was for 3-4 years anyways.
- CanuckDon


If they had similar numbers I'd definitely give the edge to the WHL guy but it wasn't close.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 8:48 PM ET
Gaunce blows - maybe he'll cut it one day as a 4th liner

love the promise of Virtanen, seeing it come to fruition like it appears to be really makes last season look like waste for the nucks

A bottom 5 finish and netting a Strome/Hanafin/Marner would have the Canucks so much more ahead in the long term than a 1st round exit did

Time will tell

- TheGame316

Gaunce will be a 3rd liner.

I think McCann will make the team as well as Gaunce.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 8:51 PM ET
Late bloomers are going against the odds, that's what separates the smart teams from the stupid ones. Why not just draft the guy who's already outplaying the potential "late bloomer"?
- Nucker101

This is a bone head comment. It's not like projecting future talent is an exact science. Development isn't linear.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 8:51 PM ET
Gaunce will be a 3rd liner.

I think McCann will make the team as well as Gaunce.

- Bieksa#3


both this season?
who do you see sitting?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 15 @ 8:53 PM ET
Gaunce will be a 3rd liner.

I think McCann will make the team as well as Gaunce.

- Bieksa#3


You got three rookies making the team? Virt, McCann, and Gaunce? Who gets bumped to make room.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 8:54 PM ET
EDM's top picks aren't the problem, do you think they'd be better with Seguin/Landeskog/Murray?
- Nucker101

The Seguin,/ball debate is no more. Seguin is considerably better. And they (the early 1st picks) have their share of the blame. There is more to the game them offense. Hall, Yaks and Ebs are all pathetic 2_way players
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 15 @ 8:54 PM ET
both this season?
who do you see sitting?

- dbot


Good question
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
You got three rookies making the team? Virt, McCann, and Gaunce? Who gets bumped to make room.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't think Virtanen will make it. I don't think the canucks will want him on the 4th line
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
Good question
- bloatedmosquito

Higgins and Hansen
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 8:59 PM ET
This is a bone head comment. It's not like projecting future talent is an exact science. Development isn't linear.
- Bieksa#3

Yet every study done shows that drafting higher point producers leads to better drafting rather than trying to find these "late bloomers". Going against the odds isn't smart. Especially for forwards.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
Higgins and Hansen
- Bieksa#3

lol

I hope you see the irony of this post.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
I don't think Virtanen will make it. I don't think the canucks will want him on the 4th line
- Bieksa#3


I don't know about that.
With WD splitting up time fairly evenly, it might be a good way to ease him into the bigs.
I believe Kesler started on the 4th line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:01 PM ET
The Seguin,/ball debate is no more. Seguin is considerably better. And they (the early 1st picks) have their share of the blame. There is more to the game them offense. Hall, Yaks and Ebs are all pathetic 2_way players
- Bieksa#3


Of course their not perfect but the bugger problem has always been EDM's horrible depth. So many of the players that were once regulars in their lineup over the last 5 years aren't even in the league anymore.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:02 PM ET
2007 6, 15,21
2008 22
2009 10
2010 1
2011 1
2012 1
2013 7
2014 3
2015 1

- belcherbd


I meant with the oilers , not something wrong with your comment. They should have had a cup now
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Yet every study done shows that drafting higher point producers leads to better drafting rather than trying to find these "late bloomers". Going against the odds isn't smart. Especially for forwards.
- Nucker101

Every single one, eh?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
lol

I hope you see the irony of this post.

- Nucker101


?

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:04 PM ET
I don't know about that.
With WD splitting up time fairly evenly, it might be a good way to ease him into the bigs.
I believe Kesler started on the 4th line.

- dbot

And Kesler was a very good defensive player. And we know what Willie expects
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
Every single one, eh?
- Bieksa#3

Find me one that says that it's not smart to draft junior forwards who produce the most.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
I don't think Virtanen will make it. I don't think the canucks will want him on the 4th line
- Bieksa#3


So Virt goes back to junior? He's already played 8 pro games last season against men and did alright. What will juniors do for him? Please don't use the 'dominate at that level is good for confidence' line. I don't buy it...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
?
- dbot

I too, have that reaction to his comment.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
?
- dbot

See the post above, he called my post boneheaded and hen suggest that Higgins/Hansen will be sitting out. Both are better players than Vey/Prust/Dorsett
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:07 PM ET
So Virt goes back to junior? He's already played 8 pro games last season against men and did alright. What will juniors do for him? Please don't use the 'dominate at that level is good for confidence' line. I don't buy it...
- bloatedmosquito

Virt didn't score much last yr. He didn't score basically at all in pro. Imo his offensive development would be helped in Jr.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 9:07 PM ET
And Kesler was a very good defensive player. And we know what Willie expects
- Bieksa#3


A forth line of Dorsett/Vey/JV could provide a good forecheck with some skill. You could rely on the 3rd line for defensive responsibilities.
I guess it depends on what you expect from the 4th.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
See the post above, he called my post boneheaded and hen suggest that Higgins/Hansen will be sitting out. Both are better players than Vey/Prust/Dorsett
- Nucker101

Higgins and Hansen will fight and hit more then Prust or dorsett as well I bet. And are much younger then Vey. Vet is older then Higgins because benning made the trade for him I guess
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
See the post above, he called my post boneheaded and hen suggest that Higgins/Hansen will be sitting out. Both are better players than Vey/Prust/Dorsett
- Nucker101


ah. The irony was indeed lost on me.
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