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CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Sep 17 @ 1:33 AM ET
GOD that Bonino trade still just infuriates me.


- classic321


I was angrier when we traded Hodgson for Kassian (shows what I know) and way angrier when we hired Torts (hey, I was right!). I was also angrier after every offseason and TDL that we didn't trade Luongo (still not over that), enraged when we traded Schnieder (Bo Horvat Doe!) and ironically really annoyed when we finally did trade Luongo. The Bonino deal doesn't even really register.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Sep 17 @ 1:36 AM ET
I was angrier when we traded Hodgson for Kassian (shows what I know) and way angrier when we hired Torts (hey, I was right!). I was also angrier after every offseason and TDL that we didn't trade Luongo (still not over that), enraged when we traded Schnieder (Bo Horvat Doe!) and ironically really annoyed when we finally did trade Luongo. The Bonino deal doesn't even really register.
- CubanBuffet



Yeah I guess the only part that really makes me mad is trading a 2nd round pick for a 3rd.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 17 @ 1:46 AM ET
I think he wants Miller to mentor Markstrom who is the goalie of the next 7 years for this team
- VANTEL

Moar mentors!!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 17 @ 1:47 AM ET
Yeah I guess the only part that really makes me mad is trading a 2nd round pick for a 3rd.


- classic321

It's a minor thing but the fact he's also willing to bend in these deals makes it annoying. It'd be fine if once in awhile he got the other GM to do it but that's not the case.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Sep 17 @ 2:13 AM ET
Yeah I guess the only part that really makes me mad is trading a 2nd round pick for a 3rd.


- classic321


He definitely seems to favour an open leg policy when it comes to second round picks.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 17 @ 2:47 AM ET
So Elliot Friendman is reporting that the team that wanted to trade for Ryan Miller last year was the Sharks.

WHY BENNING?? WHHHHY didn't you make that deal.

In my Opinion it was pride

- classic321

Maybe it was something to do with Miller being injured?
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Sep 17 @ 3:08 AM ET
Moar mentors!!
- Nucker101


I feel like that's a lazy comment without a meme.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:21 AM ET
Moar mentors!!
- Nucker101

Actually I used the wrong term. I don't see Miller sharing info that will later have him replaced. I see him holding the fort foe two years
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
So Elliot Friendman is reporting that the team that wanted to trade for Ryan Miller last year was the Sharks.

WHY BENNING?? WHHHHY didn't you make that deal.

In my Opinion it was pride

- classic321


In my opinion it's a rumor.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:35 AM ET
Brock Nelson 3 yrs x 2.5 avg.

Huberdeau 2 x 3.5
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
So Elliot Friendman is reporting that the team that wanted to trade for Ryan Miller last year was the Sharks.

WHY BENNING?? WHHHHY didn't you make that deal.

In my Opinion it was pride

- classic321

Pride??? It's pretty obvious Benning thinks the team needs a veteran goaltender, and Miller's that guy...nothing more, nothing less. The Canucks played well in front of Miller last year and it's been said many many times before, the veteran core asked for a veteran goaltender.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:04 AM ET
GOD that Bonino trade still just infuriates me.


- classic321

Again....why? He wasn't a good second line option at center. I'm NOT a huge Brandon Sutter supporter but he's faster, he had three times as many hits as Bonino, he's better on the dot and he's younger.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
I was angrier when we traded Hodgson for Kassian (shows what I know) and way angrier when we hired Torts (hey, I was right!). I was also angrier after every offseason and TDL that we didn't trade Luongo (still not over that), enraged when we traded Schnieder (Bo Horvat Doe!) and ironically really annoyed when we finally did trade Luongo. The Bonino deal doesn't even really register.
- CubanBuffet

Apparently you, like most everyone else, aren't very good at "judging" transactions
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
I think Sekeres brought reality to Canucks D for this upcoming season. He said Bartowski only has to be better that Bieksa was last year, who had a really tough year. Then he finished it by saying and Sbisa only has to be better than Sbisa was last year , and said how hard can that be?

He fully expects the D to be an improvement this year

- VANTEL

We are slightly better on D this year with Corrado and Bartkowski slotting in vs Clendening/Bieksa/Stanton. But it is slight. Bieksa and Stanton were and absolute mess last season and they just could not afford the risk of keeping them here plus for what we were getting out of Bieksa his salary was insane. Sbisa will be Sbisa but Edler/Tanev/Hamhuis should be a solid top 3 to start the year here...until they all go down with injury of course...
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
We are slightly better on D this year with Corrado and Bartkowski slotting in vs Clendening/Bieksa/Stanton. But it is slight. Bieksa and Stanton were and absolute mess last season and they just could not afford the risk of keeping them here plus for what we were getting out of Bieksa his salary was insane. Sbisa will be Sbisa but Edler/Tanev/Hamhuis should be a solid top 3 to start the year here...until they all go down with injury of course...
- LordHumungous

Funny....Stanton looked ok under that Torts fella, then he looked terrible last year. Strange how some guys can thrive or play well under certain coaches while the majority of the team falters.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:17 AM ET
Again....why? He wasn't a good second line option at center. I'm NOT a huge Brandon Sutter supporter but he's faster, he had three times as many hits as Bonino, he's better on the dot and he's younger.
- LeftCoaster

Sutter fills all the needs we had for 2LC right now that Bonino couldn't accomplish. 200' game and good on draws. Great on PK and defensively responsible and will flirt with 20 goals. Will play in the tough areas. Sutter hasn't missed more than 5 games over the past 5 seasons either so he is not injury prone (knock on wood) The only thing we will miss with Bonino is that awesome snapshot. We are not going to miss Bonino not scoring for 3 months at a time.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
Funny....Stanton looked ok under that Torts fella, then he looked terrible last year. Strange how some guys can thrive or play well under certain coaches while the majority of the team falters.
- LeftCoaster

Yes agreed Stanton had good moments under Torts...but 'OK' isn't going to cut it for him going forward. Agreed Last year his weaknesses really showed IMO
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:24 AM ET
Sutter fills all the needs we had for 2LC right now that Bonino couldn't accomplish. 200' game and good on draws. Great on PK and defensively responsible and will flirt with 20 goals. Will play in the tough areas. Sutter hasn't missed more than 5 games over the past 5 seasons either so he is not injury prone (knock on wood) The only thing we will miss with Bonino is that awesome snapshot. We are not going to miss Bonino not scoring for 3 months at a time.
- LordHumungous

Ya I kinda like that Benning cuts bait when he sees things not working. Bonino had 7 goals in the first 14 games and then 8 in the next 50+ games...that's not acceptable for a second line center.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 17 @ 10:28 AM ET
Brock Nelson 3 yrs x 2.5 avg.

Huberdeau 2 x 3.5

- VANTEL


Both great contracts ....I wonder how these will affect the two flames kids ?
If Bo has better year than next year what is his offer this summer ?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
Ya I kinda like that Benning cuts bait when he sees things not working. Bonino had 7 goals in the first 14 games and then 8 in the next 50+ games...that's not acceptable for a second line center.
- LeftCoaster

Consistency
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yes agreed Stanton had good moments under Torts...but 'OK' isn't going to cut it for him going forward. Agreed Last year his weaknesses really showed IMO
- LordHumungous

There wasn't any type of quick transition game from the defense to the forwards under Torts, more of a "defend" mode, which Stanton was ok at. But when it comes to quick transition he wasn't very good at that.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
Apparently you, like most everyone else, aren't very good at "judging" transactions
- LeftCoaster


In my history as a Canuck fan I've learned that if you hate them all on principle you'll be right more often than not.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:30 AM ET
Consistency
- VANTEL

Thankfully the team had depth which allowed them to continue to win.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:31 AM ET
In my history as a Canuck fan I've learned that if you hate them all on principle you'll be right more often than not.
- CubanBuffet

- contrary to popular belief, most, and I stress most, NHL GM's know what they're doing more so than the internet GM's.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
Both great contracts ....I wonder how these will affect the two flames kids ?
If Bo has better year than next year what is his offer this summer ?

- Redmile247

Next year and I think it will be 3x 3 or 3.5

Burrows off the books
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