then they release a statement by him and say he will be available at time later in the week....this was pathetic....

were only going to talk about hockey stuff after they open with him and McD babling with kane right next to him....
- bogiedoc

lol....ok. Then later in the week everyone would have been waiting, asking more questions, and then we would have only delayed what we saw today. It was inevitable. Today. A week from now. A month from now. It had to go down asap IMO.

Posted this earlier but here it is again:

Was just listening to Kap and Haugh, not sure which one said it but they were talking about the Wisconsin situation and one of them said they heard through multiple sources that Kane was told that this was it. One more situation like this and you're done.

Now if and it's a big if that's true I don't see how they have any choice but to move him at some point.

Not to get political, but it's the best comparison I can think of off the top of my head. But, they can't pull an "Obama", if you draw a line in the sand you better damn well enforce it. If you don't you're sending a very bad message to the team. If you do enforce it you're sending a strong message to the team. We mean what we say and no one, no matter who you are or how good you are no one is exempt.
- walleyeb1

I did see this earlier, but my question remains. Until it is proved the accusations against PK are true, what "situation" is he now guilty of? Yes, this is a circus. Yes, this is a terrible situation. But right now without a conviction or even a charge, what did PK do (as opposed to being done to him) to warrant using his last chance?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it was worded bizarrely. Should have been: 'I will be absolved of any wrongdoing.'
- jfkst1

Yes.
The original wording is a double negative which becomes a positive in the English language.

IF Patrick Kane is charged with a crime he SHOULD be gone. Until that point, as far as we know, Kane is being setup. There is a 50/50 chance on this. I feel it is completely unfair to Kane and all he has done for this city and the Hawks to toss him aside without an actual law being broken. I'm sorry if the majority disagree with my stance but I cannot abandon this man given the current circumstances. There are no criminal charges! We have all agreed that Kane's on ice contributions cannot be matched via trade so what are we doing here?? This is how we should be reacting AFTER a criminal charge, not an unsubstantiated accusation! Come on people. I know he is a fool but if 88 wants to be the Johnny Manziel(but actually good at the Pro level), so be it! On ice results are ultimately what keeps Kane in the Blackhawks' sweater until after his 30th birthday!

And you're going to believe what YOU want as well. It's pretty clear you don't care for the guy. Most of this board has succumbed to the JJ mind trust/hive mind mentality. God forbid we wait for any concrete information or facts to come out. My "independent sources" tell me this should be wrapped up shortly.

Let's play hockey.
- Coca

You understand that all of the speculation on him being traded or not has been if he settles/is found innocent right? If you think they're waiting for concrete evidence on if he's guilty or not, you're not looking at it the right way. If he's guilty, he's out of the league.
All the speculation is based on whether or not the hawks brass thinks they have given him enough chances or not. If they believe they have, dude is gone.

Yeah...it's the media's fault. Sure, just ignore the elephant in the room.

And regardling the rest...wow! Nice comparison...apple meet orange.

And if you've bought into the Hilary "scandals" you obviously trust some in the media...just as long as they're telling you what you want to hear.
- ArlingtonRob

Had some of these reporters used their heads and asked Kane actual questions about hockey; what he's been doing for a month to stay in shape and things about participating at training camp they probably could have gotten him to slip up and say something he wouldn't have wanted to say about his problem.

Well ... this day turned out to stink. After the promise of something - anything from the press conference it turns out we got nuthin. And just to make things worse we have political arguments stinking up the blog.

When will the nightmare end?

In just saw clips of the presser. You could see the smoke coming out of McD's eyes and ears. He is defiantly pissed off.

I think 88days a Blackhawk are numbered

Posted this earlier but here it is again:

Was just listening to Kap and Haugh, not sure which one said it but they were talking about the Wisconsin situation and one of them said they heard through multiple sources that Kane was told that this was it. One more situation like this and you're done.

Now if and it's a big if that's true I don't see how they have any choice but to move him at some point.

Not to get political, but it's the best comparison I can think of off the top of my head. But, they can't pull an "Obama", if you draw a line in the sand you better damn well enforce it. If you don't you're sending a very bad message to the team. If you do enforce it you're sending a strong message to the team. We mean what we say and no one, no matter who you are or how good you are no one is exempt.
- walleyeb1

I have heard this several times. What I don't understand, if this is true, is why they signed him to such a long term deal if he was on the end of his leash. I mean, sign him to a shorter deal to make sure that he grows up and stops the non-sense. Signing him to an 8 year extension doesn't make sense if he really was told this is your last chance, does it?

Had some of these reporters used their heads and asked Kane actual questions about hockey; what he's been doing for a month to stay in shape and things about participating at training camp they probably could have gotten him to slip up and say something he wouldn't have wanted to say about his problem.
- RickJ

Yes - let's ignore the elephant in the room - the only real story that exists right now - and it's a LEGITIMATE story - not a media-invented situation.

Surprisingly, Wyshynski and I are on the same page...

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...-questions-195631271.html

Man, the look on Kane's face shows him being scared, embarrassed and ashamed.
I for one think he's a good kid who enjoys his life outside of hockey like anybody does away from work. Probably a bit too much, but it is what it is. He believes he will be exonerated from this, so if nothing happened, nothing happened. Just another night out on the town during his own personal time.

Now for the Hawks contemplating trading him. I dont believe the marketing BS that McCub says, since EVERY league, EVERY team, etc. says the SAME EXACT THING. We hold everyone to High standards, yada yada yada. There are individuals everywhere that have a dark cloud hanging over them in every organization. What skeletons are in his closet???

So why would some team trade FOR HIM if the Hawks dont want him anymore? Is that saying that the other team has a lower standard than the Blackhawks Organization. I just think it's BS. Stan is like his second father, who better knows him than Bowman and who better to have him correct his personal life and be a mentor now? And now Stan may be asked to trade him? That's crap. Why do they employ the great Bobby Hull then? Riddle me that? And WHO asked Bobby to come back?? uhh, yeah it was John McCub. Nobody ever brings that up? A little hypocritical if you ask me.

Time heals all wounds and Kane WILL show his remorse and prove to his teamates, his family and the Blackhawks Organization that he is not that type of guy. I'm glad Kane had the balls to sit by the douche reporters, whether or not he was forced to by management, but he did what he had to do. I commend him! Nobody has the balls to ask puppetmaster McD that sort of thing.

Go Hawks!
- stan-ley-cups

Yes - boys will be boys.

Yes - let's ignore the elephant in the room - the only real story that exists right now - and it's a LEGITIMATE story - not a media-invented situation.
- StLBravesFan

It might be a legitimate story but there was never going to be any detailed answers given to that ink stained rabble, none of whom were very crafty with their questions. All I got from it was that Kane isn't in solitary confinement somewhere and his mommy wasn't there to help him thru it or at least visible.

Where's the National Enquirer when they are needed - they should be able to find a picture of the girl involved and splash it all over the front page.

Surprisingly, Wyshynski and I are on the same page...

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...-questions-195631271.html
- ArlingtonRob

Yeah don't know what the heck they were thinking, actually amazed his attorney even agreed to let him speak.

IF Patrick Kane is charged with a crime he SHOULD be gone. Until that point, as far as we know, Kane is being setup. There is a 50/50 chance on this. I feel it is completely unfair to Kane and all he has done for this city and the Hawks to toss him aside without an actual law being broken. I'm sorry if the majority disagree with my stance but I cannot abandon this man given the current circumstances. There are no criminal charges! We have all agreed that Kane's on ice contributions cannot be matched via trade so what are we doing here?? This is how we should be reacting AFTER a criminal charge, not an unsubstantiated accusation! Come on people. I know he is a fool but if 88 wants to be the Johnny Manziel(but actually good at the Pro level), so be it! On ice results are ultimately what keeps Kane in the Blackhawks' sweater until after his 30th birthday!
- EnzoD

In just saw clips of the presser. You could see the smoke coming out of McD's eyes and ears. He is defiantly pissed off.

I think 88days a Blackhawk are numbered
- mmurray892

So you expected him to look happy? I don't get it...

How about the lies that directly lead to the deaths of 4,000 Americans in Iraq, the Taliban and Al Quaida resurgence in Afghanistan, and the development of ISIS in the power vacuum that resulted in Iraq?

Not criminal, no...

I'm not absolving Obama of any blame just trying to place responsibility where it belongs.
- StLBravesFan

To All
All wars are the banking cartel wars since they profit from them
There is no two party system in Washington DC theres only one party and they are bought and paid for by the federal reserve
The president is a pupet for the real power behind the curtain

here is my take. the hawks have washed their hands clean. meaning they let him come back to work and said "we will give you the benefit of the doubt." however, i think that they did that with the stipulation that if he is in fact charged, even if he is "cleared" that he will be required to waive his nmc and that is on paper. that is the only scenario in my mind that makes sense.

if he gets charged the hawks can say hey we took his word that this would be quickly resolved but now it is best if we part ways. if he isnt charged then im sure there are steps in place that will need to be followed to T.

and that press conference was about as awkward as it gets. yikes. bad bad bad.

anyway, hopefully they can move bickell and im assuming another vet or two get added on the blue line just in case. if there is some space i think it is better to have that insurance even if they sit in the box most nights.

It might be a legitimate story but there was never going to be any detailed answers given to that ink stained rabble, none of whom were very crafty with their questions. All I got from it was that Kane isn't in solitary confinement somewhere and his mommy wasn't there to help him thru it or at least visible.

Where's the National Enquirer when they are needed - they should be able to find a picture of the girl involved and splash it all over the front page.
- RickJ

I didn't see the presser, but if Wyshynsky is accurate, the "ink stained rabble" did their job, asked some good questions - did you feel embarrassed? did you consider staying home? - and got the (arrogant?)answer "I appreciate the question".

This situation is not the fault of the media - they are doing their job by reporting on it and asking questions.

But - again - I didn't see it.

IF Patrick Kane is charged with a crime he SHOULD be gone. Until that point, as far as we know, Kane is being setup. There is a 50/50 chance on this. I feel it is completely unfair to Kane and all he has done for this city and the Hawks to toss him aside without an actual law being broken. I'm sorry if the majority disagree with my stance but I cannot abandon this man given the current circumstances. There are no criminal charges! We have all agreed that Kane's on ice contributions cannot be matched via trade so what are we doing here?? This is how we should be reacting AFTER a criminal charge, not an unsubstantiated accusation! Come on people. I know he is a fool but if 88 wants to be the Johnny Manziel(but actually good at the Pro level), so be it! On ice results are ultimately what keeps Kane in the Blackhawks' sweater until after his 30th birthday!
- EnzoD

Go hawks and Kane gets his first 100 point season

I didn't see the presser, but if Wyshynsky is accurate, the "ink stained rabble" did their job, asked some good questions - did you feel embarrassed? did you consider staying home? - and got the (arrogant?)answer "I appreciate the question".

This situation is not the fault of the media - they are doing their job by reporting on it and asking questions.

But - again - I didn't see it.
- StLBravesFan

The questions weren't ever going to get responses that the press were looking for from Kane who was brought out as the star of the show.

McD deviated once and spoke about how difficult the past 4 or 5 weeks had been.

Q talked about hockey in a pleasant manner.

Duncan Keith made me laugh.

An attorney emailed the Score and said Kane essentially called the accuser a liar by saying he will be absolved, and may jeopardize any settlement and confidentiality agreement since Kane is already on record as saying he is essentially innocent. The next caller was also an attorney and pointed out that Kane better have a settlement in place, because if this goes to civil court Mcd and Stanbo could be forced to testify after admitting today they had conversations with Kane, his lawyer and others

here is my take. the hawks have washed their hands clean. meaning they let him come back to work and said "we will give you the benefit of the doubt." however, i think that they did that with the stipulation that if he is in fact charged, even if he is "cleared" that he will be required to waive his nmc and that is on paper. that is the only scenario in my mind that makes sense.

if he gets charged the hawks can say hey we took his word that this would be quickly resolved but now it is best if we part ways. if he isnt charged then im sure there are steps in place that will need to be followed to T.

and that press conference was about as awkward as it gets. yikes. bad bad bad.

anyway, hopefully they can move bickell and im assuming another vet or two get added on the blue line just in case. if there is some space i think it is better to have that insurance even if they sit in the box most nights.
- fattybeef

From a PR perspective would the Hawks see a settlement with Kane paying to make this go away as Kane being cleared?

An attorney emailed the Score and said Kane essentially called the accuser a liar by saying he will be absolved, and may jeopardize any settlement and confidentiality agreement since Kane is already on record as saying he is essentially innocent. The next caller was also an attorney and pointed out that Kane better have a settlement in place, because if this goes to civil court Mcd and Stanbo could be forced to testify after admitting today they had conversations with Kane, his lawyer and others
- Sundevil

False. What he said is he is confident he will be absolved. Big difference.
To the second point, hardly damning. They discussed whatever his lawyer feels would help him in a civil suit.

An attorney emailed the Score and said Kane essentially called the accuser a liar by saying he will be absolved, and may jeopardize any settlement and confidentiality agreement since Kane is already on record as saying he is essentially innocent. The next caller was also an attorney and pointed out that Kane better have a settlement in place, because if this goes to civil court Mcd and Stanbo could be forced to testify after admitting today they had conversations with Kane, his lawyer and others
- Sundevil

IMHO this was always about money and now its just a matter of how much

In the future athletes and rich guys in general will have to have a form signed by the women prior to having sex saying that it is consensual