I have arrived. Bask in my awesomeness.

I have arrived. Bask in my awesomeness.
- Tee-Dot

Fired all ready??

I MUST PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE!!!

please meet my 4th husband Joe
- Dozzer

no, they arent

we glorify the prospects way too much.

look at how everyone just loved Leivo and figured he should be a top candidate for the leafs....Babcock doesnt agree obviously as he was in the first round of cuts.

our conception of some of these kids is that will come in and light it up.. they dont.. never do either.. every time they get a chance they show potential, but its just potential.. the guys on the leafs are better hockey players right NOW. no question... the prospects have POTENTIALLY higher ceilings.. but have come nowhere close to reaching them.

keep those kids buried for a couple more years.. let babcock establish his systems and get the vets playing them to a tee so that when a kid is finally brought up, the transition will be seamless
- Dozzer

^That, a thousand times over!

no, they arent

we glorify the prospects way too much.

look at how everyone just loved Leivo and figured he should be a top candidate for the leafs....Babcock doesnt agree obviously as he was in the first round of cuts.

our conception of some of these kids is that will come in and light it up.. they dont.. never do either.. every time they get a chance they show potential, but its just potential.. the guys on the leafs are better hockey players right NOW. no question... the prospects have POTENTIALLY higher ceilings.. but have come nowhere close to reaching them.

keep those kids buried for a couple more years.. let babcock establish his systems and get the vets playing them to a tee so that when a kid is finally brought up, the transition will be seamless
- Dozzer

If a player is ready, he is ready. If that player is your best option at a position, then so be it. Its not forcing a player because there is no other option, its because he earned it over someone else. Handing a roster spot to someone not deserving is repeating what has happened year after year here.

I have arrived. Bask in my awesomeness.
- Tee-Dot

*basks*

If a player is ready, he is ready. If that player is your best option at a position, then so be it. Its not forcing a player because there is no other option, its because he earned it over someone else. Handing a roster spot to someone not deserving is repeating what has happened year after year here.
- LeafMan

Well said...Agreed...

And neither he nor Santo hardly even played! One thing Burke was dead on about was July 1st and the deadline 7 when GMs go bonkers and lose their mind.
- Phenom

Yet he never took advantage of this with expiring contracts like MacArthur, Kulemin, etc.

If a player is ready, he is ready. If that player is your best option at a position, then so be it. Its not forcing a player because there is no other option, its because he earned it over someone else. Handing a roster spot to someone not deserving is repeating what has happened year after year here.
- LeafMan

i would agree with this if the goal was to have a successful season

but that isnt the goal

the goal is to establish a work ethic, systems, and the atmosphere the leafs are going to work within moving forward

so.. the kids who may have more talent would be wasted being applied to this years, and quite possibly next years team blue print.

LL said it himself.. if we think a kid is ready we will probably send him back to the AHL for some more time.

On a totally different note, I'm thinking of taking Washington with the points (+4.5) @ the Giants tonight. Dont trust NY to win by more than a field goal, if at all. Thoughts?

If a player is ready, he is ready. If that player is your best option at a position, then so be it. Its not forcing a player because there is no other option, its because he earned it over someone else. Handing a roster spot to someone not deserving is repeating what has happened year after year here.
- LeafMan

also, it should be noted that when it comes to an overall game i dont believe any of the kids have supplanted any of the NHLers

offensively sure.. two way.. no, not even close.

Yet he never took advantage of this with expiring contracts like MacArthur, Kulemin, etc.
- 1979AD

Leafs where in playoff race...Same would happen this year if they fighting for a playoff spot...Teams dont quit and unload when they have a shot...

You keep players that matter in the future on the Marlies. No point keeping the lost causes on the Marlies. Let them be a stop gap. Only players on the Leafs that matter for the future of the organization is Rielly, Bernier and possibly Gardiner and Kadri.
- walshyleafsfan

Exactly. Hence, the 5 for Grabner deal.

If a player is ready, he is ready. If that player is your best option at a position, then so be it. Its not forcing a player because there is no other option, its because he earned it over someone else. Handing a roster spot to someone not deserving is repeating what has happened year after year here.
- LeafMan

*basks*
- Garnie

Oh, and yes, it was me that Wedge brought. I was three sheets to the wind.

Leafs where in playoff race...Same would happen this year if they fighting for a playoff spot...Teams dont quit and unload when they have a shot...
- Fruitcakenipple

That would be a shortsighted shame. Especially if the underlying stats show the team is overachieving.

Yet he never took advantage of this with expiring contracts like MacArthur, Kulemin, etc.
- 1979AD

Cuz he was always in win now mode, but had no clue how to do so.

Jays tickets seem to be a hot commodity
Didnt get any
- senstroll

On a totally different note, I'm thinking of taking Washington with the points (+4.5) @ the Giants tonight. Dont trust NY to win by more than a field goal, if at all. Thoughts?
- Phenom

I took washington in my pool

i think washingtons pass D is going to hold the giants down

also, it should be noted that when it comes to an overall game i dont believe any of the kids have supplanted any of the NHLers

offensively sure.. two way.. no, not even close.
- Dozzer

After three games he has performed better than any PTO there and that is all we have to go on. As the pre season goes on that may change but as of right now, he is better.

Now here is a question for everyone, hypothetically, if Nylanders play forces a trade of Bozak because of it, how would you feel about it?

5 prospects for Grabner lol ....Islanders couldn't wait to sign off on that one

Yup. When the 2 or 3 big fish get moved, the other GMs start scrambling and before you know it.....
'Anaheim Acquires Grabner for a 2016 2nd and a 3rd in 2017.'

Then......

'Polak and Matthias to Wild for a 1st.'

Watch...
- Phenom

close... but my guess is Polak goes to the Penguins at the deadline - who will need capable d-men going into playoffs.

I took washington in my pool

i think washingtons pass D is going to hold the giants down
- Dozzer

That's actually the only part that worries me. Beckham Jr. Is head and shoulders better and faster than any individual safety or corner the Skins have. Will be interesting to see who they double up on him with. I think the Skins running game will eat up the Giants d-line though.

Oh, and yes, it was me that Wedge brought. I was three sheets to the wind.
- Tee-Dot

Nice

After three games he has performed better than any PTO there and that is all we have to go on. As the pre season goes on that may change but as of right now, he is better.

Now here is a question for everyone, hypothetically, if Nylanders play forces a trade of Bozak because of it, how would you feel about it?
- LeafMan

i'd be pissed

Nylander belongs on the Marlies learnign his trade

dont subject him to the poop show that will be the leafs this year.. no high end prospect should be anywhere near that.