I'm going to have to agree with Nylander being sent down. I think its best for his development in the long run plus there is no need to burn a year off his elc until this team has a respectable work ethic, structure on and off the ice, leadership, proper systems etc.

I just don't think its right to demand and expect young players to figure out how to compete in this league until the actual team he's being placed on has figured their poop out. Just my opinion.
- systemtool

Happens if he's in the ahl of nhl.

I'd like to see Nylander learn how to be relied on for offence every night, looked to in key situations, lead the league in soring, and take a team to the finals.

He can't learn those lessons in the NHL this year.

Its better to start Nylander in the AHL and bring him up if he's deserving mid-season or even early season rather than start him at the NHL and ruin his confidence by sending him down if he's not there yet

Happens if he's in the ahl of nhl.
- burn

Not true, an ELC only starts to run after the player has played 20 nhl games or is 21yo.

When was the last time the Leafs had a 19 year old amongst the AHL scoring leaders - never? It's going to be awesome, and he might be bringing guys like Kapanen and Brown up with him next year. To a team that's already comfortable with Babcock's systems and team culture.
- 1979AD

Agreed. Go down and dominate the a, learn to be more complete player... More consistent. Build chemistry with others and come up as a group next year

That's pretty much what I'm saying, Dozz, in less detail.
- Phenom

just spelling it out lol

If there's one thing I've noticed about Shanny and Uncle Lou it's that they have very loose tongues when it comes to their plans.

Everyone knew about Babcock, Lou, Clarkson and the 5 for 1 trade.
- walshyleafsfan

Actually Babs was reported several days before he signed.

Not true, an ELC only starts to run after the player has played 20 nhl games or is 21yo.
- Schennski

Umm I don't think that is correct at all.


He's signed to a contract, and is being used up.

Umm I don't think that is correct at all.


He's signed to a contract, and is being used up.
- burn

i looked into this.. people mistake the ELC with RFA eligibility I think

Its better to start Nylander in the AHL and bring him up if he's deserving mid-season or even early season rather than start him at the NHL and ruin his confidence by sending him down if he's not there yet
- twiztedmike

YEs

Happens if he's in the ahl of nhl.
- burn

Boo-urns

When was the last time the Leafs had a 19 year old amongst the AHL scoring leaders - never? It's going to be awesome, and he might be bringing guys like Kapanen and Brown up with him next year. To a team that's already comfortable with Babcock's systems and team culture.
- 1979AD

Yup. The team as a whole is too unstable right now to bring one of our potential future cornerstones into it jow. Let's establish a culture, a team game where everyone from the management on down is on the same page and then introduce him to that. Too much turmoil and negativity right now. Let Babcock and company right the ship while he matures and hones his North American game with the Marlies. No sense in him staying right now.

i looked into this.. people mistake the ELC with RFA eligibility I think
- Dozzer

I don't know how one could think his elc doesn't kick in yet..... Is he not under contract? Is he being paid?


He's eating up a year of elc this year no matter where he is.

Exactly that. If Willie goes down and dominates, which I think he will (I'm predicting top 5 scorer), then he should unequivocally be a Toronto Maple Leaf next season. Nowhere to go but up. I kind of feel the same about Marner if he dominates the O this season, like he's supposed to. With no AHL eligibility, I'd rather him stay with the big club then go back to the OHL next year. But that also depends on his physical and mental maturity level. We can cross that bridge when we get to it I suppose.
- Phenom

Could they send Marner to play with Austin in the swiss league?

Agreed. Go down and dominate the a, learn to be more complete player... More consistent. Build chemistry with others and come up as a group next year
- burn

It seems so obvious to me.

Boo-urns
- systemtool

Biggest troublemaker on the site...Comes in here bozak's the place than leaves..

i looked into this.. people mistake the ELC with RFA eligibility I think
- Dozzer

People still think that 2 way contract has something to do with waiver ect...

Go Jays Go

It's impossible to ever know, but I'll wager Schenn would have ended up exactly the same as he is now regardless.

Come on, the AHL doesn't magically make players more than what they are
- TheThrill

Exactly.
the Leafs didnt ruin Schenn.....they simply overvalued him.
He was and is just a meh player.

So what do you think Luke Schenn's realistic trade value would be today?

YEs
- burn

Qui

i looked into this.. people mistake the ELC with RFA eligibility I think
- Dozzer

That's what I was thinking. Sorry Burn!

I don't know how one could think his elc doesn't kick in yet..... Is he not under contract? Is he being paid?


He's eating up a year of elc this year no matter where he is.
- burn

agreed.. but unless he plays 20 games in the NHL then its not eating into his RFA years

I'm going to have to agree with Nylander being sent down. I think its best for his development in the long run plus there is no need to burn a year off his elc until this team has a respectable work ethic, structure on and off the ice, leadership, proper systems etc.

I just don't think its right to demand and expect young players to figure out how to compete in this league until the actual team he's being placed on has figured their poop out. Just my opinion.
- systemtool

Isn't that already done?

Agreed. Go down and dominate the a, learn to be more complete player... More consistent. Build chemistry with others and come up as a group next year
- burn

There's a reason why so many of our contracts are only 1 or 2 years in length.