that's not a worry... by that time the Rangers and Kings will suck... and they'll pick up old guys just like they always have.... besides by that time Stamkos would have won his cup or not... and will be looking to map out his retirement - which will likely be a in a warm weather location.
- BorjeFan4Ever

well... its going to be interesting

if TB cant sign him they will look to move him.. and the team aquiring him will likely only do so based on a sign and trade

i dont know if it would be wise for the leafs to basically clean house propsect and pick wise for stamkos..i'm guessing he goes to a team closer to competing for the cup than the leafs

here's the thing about stamkos i dont necessarily like

he is signing for at least 7 years, possibly 8

that contract will take him into his mid to late 30s

by that time he will have slowed down and you will be paying him a fortune for what he used to be
- Dozzer

but.....but........

just one cup and it'll all be worth it, plus after an 8 year contract he'll only be 34

but.....but........

just one cup and it'll all be worth it, plus after an 8 year contract he'll only be 34
- the_eye

you're right.. for some reason i had 27 in my head as his age.. my bad

well... its going to be interesting

if TB cant sign him they will look to move him.. and the team aquiring him will likely only do so based on a sign and trade

i dont know if it would be wise for the leafs to basically clean house propsect and pick wise for stamkos..i'm guessing he goes to a team closer to competing for the cup than the leafs
- Dozzer

If he really wants to be a Leaf, there won't be a sign and trade

If he really wants to be a Leaf, there won't be a sign and trade
- the_eye

i cannot wait til he signs somewhere else so i can stop listening to this

every high profile FA wants to be a leaf for two full seasons leading up to their free agency

i think all of us need to let go of the burke nonis era prospects

what they looked for in a player is nothing like what the current group seems to like

i expect to see a lot of prospect movement after this camp.. for other prospects / picks, etc as the current group begins their work at molding the leafs to suit their vision

after this camp.. thats when the fun will start
- Dozzer

what if i dont want to let go of connor brown, rinat valiev, willie nylander, andreas johnson, morgan rielly, stuart percy?

i cannot wait til he signs somewhere else so i can stop listening to this

every high profile FA wants to be a leaf for two full seasons leading up to their free agency
- Dozzer

I said if HE really wants to be a Leaf, i really have no clue what his intentions are, but the Molson rep tells me he does

yes.. but then you have this...

Originally Posted by Jonas Siegel @jonasTSN1050

Babcock impressed by Nylander so far: "He just has to keep doing it and doing it and if he keeps doing it, he takes someone's job."
- Delryk

No sense trying to dissect every quote.
Babs said a while ago, no decisions will be made until the end of camp.....Nylander will play some games for the leafs...but will most likely (as we all predicted) be with the marlies
Cause as we've seen the AHL has magical powers to make our leafs prospects great.

i cannot wait til he signs somewhere else so i can stop listening to this

every high profile FA wants to be a leaf for two full seasons leading up to their free agency
- Dozzer

Just like Babs wont sign here
Clarkson brings intangibles and is worth signing.
Clarkson's contract will never be traded.

what if i dont want to let go of connor brown, rinat valiev, willie nylander, andreas johnson, morgan rielly, stuart percy?
- mykokes

whats this?

nylander i place under the shanny era too btw

i think its safe to say that the new management will assess, and keep who they want and move the rest out

I said if HE really wants to be a Leaf, i really have no clue what his intentions are, but the Molson rep tells me he does
- the_eye

i just dont think about it

Just like Babs wont sign here
Clarkson brings intangibles and is worth signing.
Clarkson's contract will never be traded.
- Fakepartofme

sure once in awhile it happens.. but the two year lead up.. argh

whats this?

nylander i place under the shanny era too btw

i think its safe to say that the new management will assess, and keep who they want and move the rest out
- Dozzer

Every new management group does.
Forget the crap keep the good.....lets hope they know how to assess the crap and the good.

here's the thing about stamkos i dont necessarily like

he is signing for at least 7 years, possibly 8

that contract will take him into his mid to late 30s

by that time he will have slowed down and you will be paying him a fortune for what he used to be
- Dozzer

he will be 26 when his new contract kicks in. assuming 8 years, he'll be 33 going into the final year of his deal. at 33, even if he declines, he's still going to be a very good player. and he'll be earning what was top dollar 7 years earlier. IMO, the age of 24-25-26 is the absolute best time to lock guys up for 7-8 years. you're paying for their prime years. if you do it earlier, then you find yourself in situations like Kesler and Giordano, having to sign guys into their 30s to huge long term deals that will span their declining years. i see zero risk giving Stamkos that term.

sure once in awhile it happens.. but the two year lead up.. argh
- Dozzer

Its like the presidential election.....there's a two year nonsense build to.....the inevitable.

not all of us are saying fast track, especially not for the sake of it. We're basing some of our suggestions based on what other teams do with say top 4 picks or their nylanders. in the end it comes down to individual players and situations. So far, its become clear marner should go back to the o. As for nylander, i would like to see how he performs in future preseason games now that opposing teams are going to be icing better, more nhl like lineups. if nylander still sticks out then as one of the best players on the ice, and babcock likes what he sees and keeps him so be it.
- mykokes

I'm late as I went for lunch

I can see your point. My only concern with it is can he keep up the level of play over 82 games? It's pretty easy for a kid to reach his dream of the NHL and play great in those first 9 NHL games and look great. Other teams are sorting out their issues too and when they do things change.

That's where Dozzer's point comes in. Can a top prospect handle that adversity and bounce back? Can they keep doing all those little things right over 82 games? Can they handle that spotlight?

I'd rather see them go to the minors where there's less of that and where people's expectations are development in 20+ minutes a game in key situations.

I'm late as I went for lunch

I can see your point. My only concern with it is can he keep up the level of play over 82 games? It's pretty easy for a kid to reach his dream of the NHL and play great in those first 9 NHL games and look great. Other teams are sorting out their issues too and when they do things change.

That's where Dozzer's point comes in. Can a top prospect handle that adversity and bounce back? Can they keep doing all those little things right over 82 games? Can they handle that spotlight?

I'd rather see them go to the minors where there's less of that and where people's expectations are development in 20+ minutes a game in key situations.
- Aaron_85

he will be 26 when his new contract kicks in. assuming 8 years, he'll be 33 going into the final year of his deal. at 33, even if he declines, he's still going to be a very good player. and he'll be earning what was top dollar 7 years earlier. IMO, the age of 24-25-26 is the absolute best time to lock guys up for 7-8 years. you're paying for their prime years. if you do it earlier, then you find yourself in situations like Kesler and Giordano, having to sign guys into their 30s to huge long term deals that will span their declining years. i see zero risk giving Stamkos that term.
- DoubleDown

This will be the case for all star players. Every team has to do it.

This will be the case for all star players. Every team has to do it.
- Fakepartofme

ya i just think it's a much easier decision at 25-26 than it is at 29-30.

Sid and Nathan working at the Tim Horton's.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/...mers/ar-AAeILey?ocid=iehp

Sid and Nathan working at the Tim Horton's.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/...mers/ar-AAeILey?ocid=iehp
- zazzle

Pretty funny. Giving away free stuff

I agree with this in principle... but I would like to see guys like Leivo (even though I know he's a previous regime prospect) playing in the NHL rather than AHL. I'd rather see him than Arcobello or Spalling for example.

And the Marlies definitely need a couple of heavyweights on the roster... to ensure that they don't go "run" by other teams.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Leivo dosnt deserve to play in the NHL. Hes gonna be shipped out next, he takes one step forward and then two backwards


Marlies have Clune

Leivo dosnt deserve to play in the NHL. Hes gonna be shipped out next, he takes one step forward and then two backwards


Marlies have Clune
- poohcrumbs

You don't think he deserves a shot to show whether or not he deserves to play in the NHL?

Leivo dosnt deserve to play in the NHL. Hes gonna be shipped out next, he takes one step forward and then two backwards


Marlies have Clune
- poohcrumbs

didn't leivo get hurt last year? he's also 22, so he got cut early. big whoop.

Do we still have Troy Bodie? We can use him as a human punching bag for the Marlies