Agreed, but when he was a Leaf you had enough people saying they wouldn't even take him for no assets at that cap hit because he's such a cancer and one dimensional...now that he's on the Pens the tone has changed a bit on Kessel, his appraisal has definitely gone up on hockeybuzz.
- Zezel

For sure - I didn't mind trading him....wish we got more and didn't eat salary - I think we caved to easy IMO

You never know....its Leafland
- Garnie

True. Just seems that way cuz it appeared like former regimes drafted players as if they were playing pin the tail on the donkey or trying to hit a pinata. Blindfolded and disoriented.

For sure - I didn't mind trading him....wish we got more and didn't eat salary - I think we caved to easy IMO
- Garnie

Agreed, although none of us were in the war room hearing what was going on. I don't have issue with the return as pieces. It's the 'lottery protection' and retained salary I didn't like.

Agreed, although none of us were in the war room hearing what was going on. I don't have issue with the return as pieces. It's the 'lottery protection' and retained salary I didn't like.
- Phenom

I'm sure I could have wrangled a better trade

😜

Wow, Kane ' s accuser's lawyer has resigned from the case......and the plot thickens.
- Phenom

saying that he lacked the confidence in the story that was told to him after looking into it

Someone just found out their client was lying

Why are people making a big deal about the retained salary? We wont be a max team for a long time.

Someone just found out their client was lying
- Cfser

her Mom made up how she got the kit..

Why are people making a big deal about the retained salary? We wont be a max team for a long time.
- poohcrumbs

Yes, the amount isn't really an issue. Problem for me is the length. Only allowed 3, and we now have 1on the books for a while.

Why are people making a big deal about the retained salary? We wont be a max team for a long time.
- poohcrumbs

we will be a max team long before that contract is over.

Why are people making a big deal about the retained salary? We wont be a max team for a long time.
- poohcrumbs

Not a big deal - just don't like it - doing Pitts a favor and they still didn't give us the prospect we wanted - (frank) THE PENS

Why are people making a big deal about the retained salary? We wont be a max team for a long time.
- poohcrumbs

Because:

A. The Kessel cloud will continue to hang over the team, and
B. In 3 or 4 years, we might need that space, who knows?

"I've always said if you want to build a winner, follow the canuck model."

This made me LOL, then I realized it was posted by a nuck fan and he was probably being serious....

Because:

A. The Kessel cloud will continue to hang over the team, and
B. In 3 or 4 years, we might need that space, who knows?
- Phenom

most of our top young guys are at least 3-4 years away from making any kind of decent salary. 1.2 in a cap that keeps rising over 70m is peanuts.

prediction: Leafs have a TONNE of cap space after moving almost all of their UFA's this year, and only Rielly due a significant raise.

Agreed, although none of us were in the war room hearing what was going on. I don't have issue with the return as pieces. It's the 'lottery protection' and retained salary I didn't like.
- Phenom

it would be a shock if they even miss the playoffs, and at best hold a 1% chance to draft 1st. The leafs had to retain a buit of salary to get it done, and 1.2 is not too rough.
The leafs had to give up 1.5% of their cap space to move a guy that wasnt part of the plan moving forward. still beats being an internal cap team like the sens

"I've always said if you want to build a winner, follow the canuck model."

This made me LOL, then I realized it was posted by a nuck fan and he was probably being serious....
- GardinerExpress

Because:

A. The Kessel cloud will continue to hang over the team, and
B. In 3 or 4 years, we might need that space, who knows?
- Phenom

yup gotta resign winnik

yup gotta resign winnik
- Sammich

Duh, that's in 2 years!

Duh, that's in 2 years!
- Phenom

"I've always said if you want to build a winner, follow the canuck model."

This made me LOL, then I realized it was posted by a nuck fan and he was probably being serious....
- GardinerExpress

The Canucks did build a very good team but it seemed like once their window was wide open it quickly stated to shut. I can't find many issues with how the built their team, but how they managed that team once the pieces were in place were questionable, starting with letting Errhoff go, all the NMC's the signed and of course the goalie fiasco.
But again, they built a Hell of a team....I take it you disagree with the way they did it?

most of our top young guys are at least 3-4 years away from making any kind of decent salary. 1.2 in a cap that keeps rising over 70m is peanuts.

prediction: Leafs have a TONNE of cap space after moving almost all of their UFA's this year, and only Rielly due a significant raise.
- GardinerExpress

Works out to an average of each player leaving $52, 000 on the table. Call it a Kessel tax. Lots of money to a guy like me, can't imagine it would make or break a contract negotiation.

Morning

Morning
- jimi james

Hello.

Hello.
- Pecafan Fan

who is Price's backup this season? Just wondering

who is Price's backup this season? Just wondering
- jimi james

Tokarski or Condon.

Probably Tokarski ( )

The Canucks did build a very good team but it seemed like once their window was wide open it quickly stated to shut. I can't find many issues with how the built their team, but how they managed that team once the pieces were in place were questionable, starting with letting Errhoff go, all the NMC's the signed and of course the goalie fiasco.
But again, they built a Hell of a team....I take it you disagree with the way they did it?
- Jeropotato

they build a team that was good in the regular season. they had a great playoff run where they poop the bed in the finals. I wouldn't call that a winning model. Their team missed the playoffs 2 years ago, and got stomped in rd 1 last year. they are at best a 50% to make it this year, and their best guys are all 33+.

Chicago, LA, Detroit..winning models