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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:04 PM ET
Put that down, I am work..
- bixll



markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
this is just an example, so before some of you react...IF someone like Kapanen, Nylander, or even Marner had the BEST camp, and proved it every game, and even had a better camp than some others that didn't and STILL didn't make the team, I think I'd be upset too. See that kid from Boston. Proved everything in the AHL & still doesn't get a chance.

I'm not saying the Leafs should rush these players. I want a proper rebuild..but if these players ARE READY, then why not actually play them? Again, not saying all 3 have had PERFECT camps, but just stating a point here.

Everyone claimed they knew everything in the world and said Clarkson would never get traded...that Babcock would never come to Toronto..but those people are just FANS. They don't know how to run a pro team, etc. Not saying I do, and I to am a fan, but I realized, in this sport, and sports in general, anything can happen, and to never say never.

- MCharisma91


I think the emphasis is on developing those Marlies TOGETHER regardless of individual readiness. Building chemistry and structure between players. That is my guess anyways.
nyrsucks
Florida Panthers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Sep 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
Your not only missing Kessel's goals, but you're also missing his brain dead give- aways that resulted in a lot of goals against.... what is the net impact?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
this is just an example, so before some of you react...IF someone like Kapanen, Nylander, or even Marner had the BEST camp, and proved it every game, and even had a better camp than some others that didn't and STILL didn't make the team, I think I'd be upset too. See that kid from Boston. Proved everything in the AHL & still doesn't get a chance.

I'm not saying the Leafs should rush these players. I want a proper rebuild..but if these players ARE READY, then why not actually play them? Again, not saying all 3 have had PERFECT camps, but just stating a point here.

Everyone claimed they knew everything in the world and said Clarkson would never get traded...that Babcock would never come to Toronto..but those people are just FANS. They don't know how to run a pro team, etc. Not saying I do, and I to am a fan, but I realized, in this sport, and sports in general, anything can happen, and to never say never.

- MCharisma91


My main issue with having any youngsters on this team is that there is no leadership whatsoever on the big club. Eventually there will be, but at the moment no. It's a lot easier to play on a line with Toews or Datsyuk or Bergeron than it is with Kadri/JVR/Bozak. Keep them all away until the system is in place where they can succeed
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think the emphasis is on developing those Marlies TOGETHER regardless of individual readiness. Building chemistry and structure between players. That is my guess anyways.
- markmark


definitely, which is why earlier I was upset about the coaching staff not putting Brown with Nylander together from the get go (and at least Kapanen) , so from something sort of what Tampa Bay did with Palat, Johnson, and Kucherov.. I really hope they do so with the Marlies.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
Your not only missing Kessel's goals, but you're also missing his brain dead give- aways that resulted in a lot of goals against.... what is the net impact?
- nyrsucks



Only us Leaf fans can say that...change your team and come back
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
meh, every year 1 or 2 teams that are supposedly in a rebuild or coming off crummy years make the playoffs...Sens/Habs/Flames etc.

I don't think we will...so that probably means they do.

- Garnie

Flames do look good, that's a fact. Ottawa and Montreal are stuck in no man's land. Never gonna win a cup in the forseable future (and Montreal have the best goalie in the league)
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
My main issue with having any youngsters on this team is that there is no leadership whatsoever on the big club. Eventually there will be, but at the moment no. It's a lot easier to play on a line with Toews or Datsyuk or Bergeron than it is with Kadri/JVR/Bozak. Keep them all away until the system is in place where they can succeed
- walshyleafsfan


of course. I get what you're saying & I get what you mean .. but I think the only person that can really make that decision if a player is ready or not, is the player. Rielly made his case a couple years ago & made the team. How can a team say no to a player(s) that has proved everything you wanted and had a great camp. It's really hard. And that goes for any player, not just the Leafs young guns.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:10 PM ET
Your not only missing Kessel's goals, but you're also missing his brain dead give- aways that resulted in a lot of goals against.... what is the net impact?
- nyrsucks

Zajac for JVR, Gauthier and Connor Brown.

That's the impact.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Flames do look good, that's a fact. Ottawa and Montreal are stuck in no man's land. Never gonna win a cup in the forseable future (and Montreal have the best goalie in the league)
- walshyleafsfan


not wishing for it, but just imagine how garbage the Habs be if Price went down with a serious injury..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Flames do look good, that's a fact. Ottawa and Montreal are stuck in no man's land. Never gonna win a cup in the forseable future (and Montreal have the best goalie in the league)
- walshyleafsfan



But I just wanna watch some playoffs ( whiniest voice imaginable)

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:13 PM ET
not wishing for it, but just imagine how garbage the Habs be if Price went down with a serious injury..
- MCharisma91


They have a coach who's not afraid to bench their best players

Leafs didn't.

They would still be vying for a playoff spot I believe.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
of course. I get what you're saying & I get what you mean .. but I think the only person that can really make that decision if a player is ready or not, is the player. Rielly made his case a couple years ago & made the team. How can a team say no to a player(s) that has proved everything you wanted and had a great camp. It's really hard. And that goes for any player, not just the Leafs young guns.
- MCharisma91

For sure it's a hard decision. I'd imagine Mike would love 6 Nylanders, but I think the best thing for the organization is keep them all away this year. It's hard for the player and could go either way. I hope it turns out like Tyler Johnson. Destroyed the AHL, had a good camp, got sent down and told to do it all over again, then made the Lightning and was part of arguably the most dangerous line in the NHL last season
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
For sure it's a hard decision. I'd imagine Mike would love 6 Nylanders, but I think the best thing for the organization is keep them all away this year. It's hard for the player and could go either way. I hope it turns out like Tyler Johnson. Destroyed the AHL, had a good camp, got sent down and told to do it all over again, then made the Lightning and was part of arguably the most dangerous line in the NHL last season
- walshyleafsfan



JVR/Bozak/Kessel? I know it seems laughable...but they had a couple real good streaks going IMO

So did Kuleman/84/MacArthur
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
But I just wanna watch some playoffs ( whiniest voice imaginable)


- Garnie

Absolutely. But we've suffered for so long, I think we owe it to ourselves to actually try this thing properly and not sign Komi, Francois and trade away Seguin and Hamilton, all so we could see a player score some goals when he felt like it
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:16 PM ET

6-1 Leafs....
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
But I just wanna watch some playoffs ( whiniest voice imaginable)


- Garnie


in a weeks it will happen.

make it so #1
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
Go jays, go leafs.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
Zajac for JVR, Gauthier and Connor Brown.

That's the impact.

- walshyleafsfan


straight up the leafs ass
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
JVR/Bozak/Kessel? I know it seems laughable...but they had a couple real good streaks going IMO

So did Kuleman/84/MacArthur

- Garnie

Yeah the top line was dangerous for sure. But always being -25 at the end of the year pisses me off. Tyler Johnson has been +23 and +33 respectively
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
JVR/Bozak/Kessel? I know it seems laughable...but they had a couple real good streaks going IMO

So did Kuleman/84/MacArthur

- Garnie



Didn't your mom tell to change your underwear at least once a day?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
straight up the leafs ass
- Dozzer

I think we'll be down to about 4 posters once this rebuild is done.
TincupCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think the last few seasons (and the off-season hires) have proven that letting in fewer goals will be the key to success.

But do we really want this team to succeed this year? Another high pick would probably be better than a first round exit.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
I think the last few seasons (and the off-season hires) have proven that letting in fewer goals will be the key to success.

But do we really want this team to succeed this year? Another high pick would probably be better than a first round exit.

- TincupCanuck

Exactly. Imagine adding Matthews or Chychrun to the team vs a 5 (being generous) game series against T.B. it's not like we don't endure this every year. The only difference will be not starting 15-5 for the year. The rest will exactly mimic what we are all used to
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Go jays, go leafs.
- systemtool


Stroman v Baltimore >>>>>>>>>>>> Leafs tonight.
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