Is it still Tuesday????? Totally agree with this analysis.

Can't believe what I have been reading the past few days. Its (frank)in preseaon!!! i'd wait until the season is in full swing before even considering dumping established players.

The only guys I'd keep up are Virtanen (likely not more than 9 games), McCann (possibly the season) and Gaunce (possibly the season).

The rest, including hutton, need more time. Excelling versus 2nd tier players over a handful of games doesnt necessarily translate. I'd take it with a grain a salt...

(frank)in' bipolars man.....
- chompsey

Hutton excelled last night playing with Biega against a Sharks lineup that was pretty stacked by pre-season standards. And SJ turned it on in the third period once the physicality picked up(Hutton and Gaunce played a big role in that as well). And Hutton looked just as good when the pace picked up as well as did Biega.

Bieksa and Burrows shouldn't have been given full NTC's, I'll give you that. Kesler's full NTC was a no-brainer. Why give him more money to trade him down the road when you could save money to help build a contender now and don't expect him to decline by the end of the deal?

Those full NTC's savings were a big reason why this team came 1 game away from winning it all.
- Nucker101

...you mean those guys that choked in the most important game...

...you mean those guys that choked in the most important game...

- boonerbuck

Okay then... Jeses (frank)ing Christ, I love how you resort to these lame ass one liners in the middle of a good discussion.

The point was that it made sense to save money in the short-term, your "choking" comment is irrelevant because that team was clearly a contender.

Hutton is the only Dman that can create an offensive flow. COrrado looked a little better last night but is still behind Hutton.
The Canucks should either trade Weber or put Sbisa on waivers to see if he gets snagged.

This is the Cadillac of problems for any team, when their kids push really hard and are the better players. There is so much to look forward to over the next few years.
- VANTEL

I don't think they move or waive Sbisa because they wanted him knowing who he is, the flaws in his game.

Hutton has stood out in this pre-season. I think even though Corrado has been a bit underwhelming this preseason, they also take into consideration his play last season.

Weber has his power play work and Bartkowski has his nice skating and passing.

Which one of Bartkowski, Weber, Sbisa or Corrado is Hutton better than? Is he even that much better overall? a year in the ahl wouldn't hurt his development and give JB more time to make deal to move someone out.

You are right though, great problems to have.

Is it still Tuesday????? Totally agree with this analysis.

Can't believe what I have been reading the past few days. Its (frank)in preseaon!!! i'd wait until the season is in full swing before even considering dumping established players.

The only guys I'd keep up are Virtanen (likely not more than 9 games), McCann (possibly the season) and Gaunce (possibly the season).

The rest, including hutton, need more time. Excelling versus 2nd tier players over a handful of games doesnt necessarily translate. I'd take it with a grain a salt...

(frank)in' bipolars man.....
- chompsey

So players( McCann, JV maybe Hutton) will get their 10 games to see how they play in regular season and decision will
Come after those 10 games( trade, ahl)
How many players can get 10 games evaluation? I mean is there a limit.

But 5th's have little to no value and mean nothing in the long run....
- Nucker101

Subban

So players( McCann, JV maybe Hutton) will get their 10 games to see how they play in regular season and decision will
Come after those 10 games( trade, ahl)
How many players can get 10 games evaluation? I mean is there a limit.
- Yannick72

Chompsey can call us what he wants, but you're right. If you suggest that it's that easy and that all the young guys up front will get a few games to show they deserve it, someone has to go. But he can come in with his usual, you're all (frank)ing bi-polars and leave without saying what he'd actually do because it's so much easier.

The Garrison trade was a great move
They traded Bieksa
Vey is not looking good, but he was worth the gamble
If they trade Sbisa, or if he improves, the deal will be good
Dorsett might make too much money, but that is basically said about every player when they sign

Sbisa was more on Desjardins than Benning. I don't think that anything that came back in the Kesler trade should be used to judge Benning as a talent evaluator, apart from what he did with the pick (which is looking pretty good right now).
- KB3Point0

We disagree on those points...

also, Bieksa was traded too late, it's not hindsight when since i was calling for bieksa to go instead of garrison at the time it happened.

he could have used the 3.6 mill much better than taking a 3 year flyer on Sbisa, unless he really truly believes they can make him into the player he was projected to be as a 1st rounder...

...you mean those guys that choked in the most important game...

- boonerbuck

the team was done in by injuries...

Hutton excelled last night playing with Biega against a Sharks lineup that was pretty stacked by pre-season standards. And SJ turned it on in the third period once the physicality picked up(Hutton and Gaunce played a big role in that as well). And Hutton looked just as good when the pace picked up as well as did Biega.
- Nucker101

Trust me, its just a handful of games. He is not ready. Lets not set the kid up to fail already....

So players( McCann, JV maybe Hutton) will get their 10 games to see how they play in regular season and decision will
Come after those 10 games( trade, ahl)
How many players can get 10 games evaluation? I mean is there a limit.
- Yannick72

I only suggested 1 player get the 9 game trial.

I'd make room for McCann and Gaunce. That really only means 1 roster space to be created and hey, guess what, higgins is injured, so there ya go.....

Hutton excelled last night playing with Biega against a Sharks lineup that was pretty stacked by pre-season standards. And SJ turned it on in the third period once the physicality picked up(Hutton and Gaunce played a big role in that as well). And Hutton looked just as good when the pace picked up as well as did Biega.
- Nucker101

I honestly don't think they risk dumping servicable Dmen because of a good first showing of Hutton. There is ZERO risk when sending him down.

On the other hand, they seem willing to do this for the 4rth line position and spoke about it last night. They want who ever it is to be on the 2nd PP unit... sure sounds like they are willing or have planned to move a forward if it is forced.

Guance replaces Higgins and McCann gets 9 games.

If when Higgins returns and McCann is still playing like this... they can send Gaunce down freely.... and keep McCann. TDL creates more space... Gaunce returns. Next season JV gets his 9 games to show if he should stay. Right now he is not ready... and the available spot should be used more wisely.

Chompsey can call us what he wants, but you're right. If you suggest that it's that easy and that all the young guys up front will get a few games to show they deserve it, someone has to go. But he can come in with his usual, you're all (frank)ing bi-polars and leave without saying what he'd actually do because it's so much easier.
- Nucker101

See above Captain Emo.....

Trust me, its just a handful of games. He is not ready. Lets not set the kid up to fail already....
- chompsey

How do you know he's not ready and that he'd fail? He's a 22 year old rookie. Not some 18 year old CHL'er.

See above Captain Emo.....
- chompsey

Yup, same old from you.

Is it still Tuesday????? Totally agree with this analysis.

Can't believe what I have been reading the past few days. Its (frank)in preseaon!!! i'd wait until the season is in full swing before even considering dumping established players.

The only guys I'd keep up are Virtanen (likely not more than 9 games), McCann (possibly the season) and Gaunce (possibly the season).

The rest, including hutton, need more time. Excelling versus 2nd tier players over a handful of games doesnt necessarily translate. I'd take it with a grain a salt...

(frank)in' bipolars man.....
- chompsey

Agree, although I would waive vey. Although it sucks losing a second round pic it's still a sunk cost. Move on and cut your losses

I honestly don't think they risk dumping servicable Dmen because of a good first showing of Hutton. There is ZERO risk when sending him down.

On the other hand, they seem willing to do this for the 4rth line position and spoke about it last night. They want who ever it is to be on the 2nd PP unit... sure sounds like they are willing or have planned to move a forward if it is forced.

Guance replaces Higgins and McCann gets 9 games.

If when Higgins returns and McCann is still playing like this... they can send Gaunce down freely.... and keep McCann. TDL creates more space... Gaunce returns. Next season JV gets his 9 games to show if he should stay. Right now he is not ready... and the available spot should be used more wisely.
- boonerbuck

This exactly....although, I would give JV a taste.....

I only suggested 1 player get the 9 game trial.

I'd make room for McCann and Gaunce. That really only means 1 roster space to be created and hey, guess what, higgins is injured, so there ya go.....
- chompsey

So what's your entire opening night lineup then Mr.Patience?

Agree, although I would waive vey. Although it sucks losing a second round pic it's still a sunk cost. Move on and cut your losses
- CanuckDon

Never thought I'd see you say a negative thing about a Benning acquisition.

Sorry, that was not my intended meaning. Was thinking Prust might be in the way of JV, but Higgins is in the way of Gaunce, maybe putting Vey there and then getting McCann on the 4th line...

I wouldn't mind seeing Grenier get some time on the 3rd or 4th line.

Look at all our bottom 2 line wingers, I'd like to replace any of them with a McCann, Grenier or Gaunce, maybe McCann.

I think JV should go back to Jr to work on his game. I don't know if McCann has the body to handle the grind, but think he has the skill.
- hillbillydeluxe

Why waste McCanns offensive skill to play 7 minutes a night with knuckle draggers.

Give him 3 Rd line minutes and linemates or send him down

How do you know he's not ready and that he'd fail? He's a 22 year old rookie. Not some 18 year old CHL'er.
- Nucker101

History says so.....I know you get a hard-on for the new kid on the block everytime he shows up, but Hutton hasnt played more than 39 games in a season in 4 years, played sparingly last year with Utica and is known to be a bit of a liability defensively.....he needs to learn that side of the game in Utica. Vancouver will be better served for it...

Subban
- VANTEL

Ben Hutton

Okay then... Jeses (frank)ing Christ, I love how you resort to these lame ass one liners in the middle of a good discussion.

The point was that it made sense to save money in the short-term, your "choking" comment is irrelevant because that team was clearly a contender.
- Nucker101

OMG... lets count how many critical one liners you belt out in the last few days just for fun...

You just got butthurt over me saying MG is your boy after you just did the same thing to me... even though we both criticize and give credit to both bodies of work... the only difference is you couldnt wait til the end of the 1st season and I gave MG years.

..and my comment is legit. You give those players credit for getting to game 7 of the final but Kesler and Bieksa mailed it in for the final... can just play half the hand you are dealt in this game all the time... time to call house on your ass....

I only suggested 1 player get the 9 game trial.

I'd make room for McCann and Gaunce. That really only means 1 roster space to be created and hey, guess what, higgins is injured, so there ya go.....
- chompsey

I can see that. They might look at McCann and think he has the game but not the frame and send him back after seeing these last two pre season games. But I think with the addition of Prust, I think we need the scoring from McCann more than the physical play from JV.

I liked that lineup with McCann as third line centre, but Sutter on the 4th line Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if Sutter is getting special teams time.

History says so.....I know you get a hard-on for the new kid on the block everytime he shows up, but Hutton hasnt played more than 39 games in a season in 4 years, played sparingly last year with Utica and is known to be a bit of a liability defensively.....he needs to learn that side of the game in Utica. Vancouver will be better served for it...
- chompsey

History does not say that a 22 year old rookie can't become a solid NHL'er straight out of camp.