The fact that he had to even address the team validates booners argument. Obviously not preferred by management but clearly its been acknowledged.....
- chompsey

I see perhaps I misunderstood the comment, wasn't the point that Hutton was outplaying the fringe Vets a reason he deserves to stay?

No, I'd rather have Hamhuis/Tanev thank you very much......
- chompsey

They can't play the entire final 5 minutes.

You don't think WD expects his fringe Vets to be going at 100%?

From the article today that Carol wrote.
- belcherbd

Sometimes a speech for a group is directed at a few.

Waiting to see if either McCann or JV get injured and they try to stretch out the 9 games like last season or if that would be pressing their luck.
- hillbillydeluxe

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks 42m42 minutes ago
"I was a little starstruck for sure, Thornton is one of my dad's favourite players" - McCann, on facing the Sharks last night. #Canucks

You don't think WD expects his fringe Vets to be going at 100%?

From the article today that Carol wrote.
- belcherbd

I didnt say that. Coaches always expect the most... and that quote is what I'm talking about... the coaches acknowledged the players are not playing 100% with that request. Thank you for supporting what I said.

The fact that he had to even address the team validates booners argument. Obviously not preferred by management but clearly its been acknowledged.....
- chompsey

Well if the head coach is urging them to go all out then clearly their jobs are actually on the line and maybe Hutton is playing for a roster spot...or maybe WD is full of poop.

What's your suggestion? Just curious.
- Nucker101

I like a third line of higgins, horvat, hansen.
The second line is a problem. I don't like any combination of current canuck players for the second line. Different GM same poop second line. It's Sven on the second line that bothers me so much. Guy is completely unproven and surprisingly has shown very little this preseason. We all talk about earning your spot but Sven certainly hasn't.

JB went out and got what he thought was a second line centreman in Sutter. I think they roll with that. His wingers will probably be Higgins (when healthy) and Vrbata.

So to answer your question... I don't got an answer for you. But that doesn't mean I got to like a second line of Sven, Bo, Radam.

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks 42m42 minutes ago
"I was a little starstruck for sure, Thornton is one of my dad's favourite players" - McCann, on facing the Sharks last night. #Canucks


- fiveandagame

ahhh, surprised, happy to be here, but he wants more.

I didnt say that. Coaches always expect the most... and that quote is what I'm talking about... the coaches acknowledged the players are not playing 100% with that request. Thank you for supporting what I said.
- boonerbuck

See above. WD has said on more than one occasion that the rookies are putting some of the vets job on the line. It's clear that Hutton has a legit chance to stay.

I didnt say that. Coaches always expect the most... and that quote is what I'm talking about... the coaches acknowledged the players are not playing 100% with that request. Thank you for supporting what I said.
- boonerbuck

I'm still confused then, it sounded like you were refuting that Hutton outperforming Vets was valid.

Isn't that a point in his favor?

Aint got much to work with
- chompsey

Exactly! I'm not dumping on you or your choice. We just don't have the horses in the organization to properly construct a team with four good lines. Hell, we can hardly construct one good line...

Hutton was practicing with Hamhuis today....

I'm still confused then, it sounded like you were refuting that Hutton outperforming Vets was valid.

Isn't that a point in his favor?
- belcherbd

But the fringe veterans who either have been outplayed or don't give a poop despite the urging of their coach on more than one occasion clearly will win their spots on the team.

Exactly! I'm not dumping on you or your choice. We just don't have the horses in the organization to properly construct a team with four good lines. Hell, we can hardly construct one good line...
- bloatedmosquito

Sad, but true.

Why the hell wouldn't a guy who doesn't have a spot locked up in the top 12F or top 6D not go 100%

And what was so radical about my proposed lineup?
- Nucker101

Its not a simple question to answer nucker. It just the way vets and entitled people play in the pre season...

I don't know why you keep insisting it is the other way round... coaches are trying to kick the vets in the ass to play hard... they want a definitive answer to who is going to be the better decision... it doesnt make it easy on them thats for sure.

Roster is exactly overflowing with options for the second line ...either try some new combo or accept you have no second line
- Redmile247

Accepted.

I like a third line of higgins, horvat, hansen.
The second line is a problem. I don't like any combination of current canuck players for the second line. Different GM same poop second line. It's Sven on the second line that bothers me so much. Guy is completely unproven and surprisingly has shown very little this preseason. We all talk about earning your spot but Sven certainly hasn't.

JB went out and got what he thought was a second line centreman in Sutter. I think they roll with that. His wingers will probably be Higgins (when healthy) and Vrbata.

So to answer your question... I don't got an answer for you. But that doesn't mean I got to like a second line of Sven, Bo, Radam.
- bloatedmosquito

So _____, Horvat Vrbata?

Or Bo doesn't belong there either?

I'm with you though, JB selling Sutter as 2lc when he seems more of a 3lc starting in his own end, off the rush than a possession player. It could be because he is still getting used to the systems, but looks lost some times in the ozone.

Aint got much to work with
- chompsey

Gaunce has put in a better showing and has more productivity than Baertschi

They can't play the entire final 5 minutes.
- Nucker101

Maybe when our nails get too long and need to be chewed off?

Its not a simple question to answer nucker. It just the way vets and entitled people play in the pre season...

I don't know why you keep insisting it is the other way round... coaches are trying to kick the vets in the ass to play hard... they want a definitive answer to who is going to be the better decision... it doesnt make it easy on them thats for sure.
- boonerbuck

If a vet who doesn't even have a opening night spot locked up is too entitled to try in the pre-season then why is he here? And do we want him around our young guys?

Accepted.
- bloatedmosquito

So _____, Horvat Vrbata?

Or Bo doesn't belong there either?

I'm with you though, JB selling Sutter as 2lc when he seems more of a 3lc starting in his own end, off the rush than a possession player. It could be because he is still getting used to the systems, but looks lost some times in the ozone.
- hillbillydeluxe

McCann might be our second line centre next year

But the fringe veterans who either have been outplayed or don't give a poop despite the urging of their coach on more than one occasion clearly will win their spots on the team.
- Nucker101

For the record I still think Hutton shouldn't stay up at the expense of potentially losing Corrado.....but I can understand that it is far from a sure thing he gets picked up via waivers at this time of year.

I'm hoping for a minor injury to Sbisa that allows the mgmt to see what this teams looks like without him.

Ok, my lineup.....

Forwards:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Baertschi- Horvat- Vrbata
Prust- Sutter- Hansen
Gaunce- McCann- Dorsett

Extras:
Vey, Virtanen

IR:
Higgins

Defense:

Hamhuis/Tanev
Edler/Corrado
Sbisa/Weber

Extras:

Bart

Goalies:

Miller
Markstrom


When Higgins comes back, you send Virtanen back.....thats my thoughts....

After watching McCann a few games, he has definitely shown he can play with the big boys offensively and defensesively despite his size....
- chompsey

Ok here line up
Sedins/ Vrabata
Baertchi/sutter/burrows
Gaunce/horvat/hansen
Prust/mccann/dorset


D:
Edler/tanev
Hamhuis/sbisca
Bartowski/webber

Extra: hutton/ virtanen

Give 10 games to mccann/virtanen and hutton and make a decision after they play their 10 games
I don't want to give horvat 2c might be too much responsability and dliw down his devellopement. Vrabata on first pp unit and first line to increase value.
I know second line is horrible.

If a vet who doesn't even have a opening night spot locked up is too entitled to try in the pre-season then why is he here? And do we want him around our young guys?
- Nucker101

Are you trying to suggest that the mentors might not be mentoring hard enough?