McCann might be our second line centre next year
- VANTEL

I keep thinking something similar and wonder why the feck we signed Sutter to that term?

Gaunce has put in a better showing and has more productivity than Baertschi
- VANTEL

I am not a fan of baertchi

Accepted.
- bloatedmosquito

Not to say that a second line won't emerge ...just not one there right now

My guess is it will be a revolving door of players mixed until a group shows some chemistry

If a vet who doesn't even have a opening night spot locked up is too entitled to try in the pre-season then why is he here? And do we want him around our young guys?
- Nucker101

once again, agreed.

not sure why but you seem to make sense to my line of thinking...

For the record I still think Hutton shouldn't stay up at the expense of potentially losing Corrado.....but I can understand that it is far from a sure thing he gets picked up via waivers at this time of year.

I'm hoping for a minor injury to Sbisa that allows the mgmt to see what this teams looks like without him.
- belcherbd

I say keep 8D, our guys after the top 3 are either unproven or suck and injuries to defense seem more common so it makes way more sense than 14 forwards. I don't get why it has to be Hutton or Corrado.

Are you trying to suggest that the mentors might not be mentoring hard enough?
- belcherbd

Ironic, ain't it?

Not to say that a second line won't emerge ...just not one there right now

My guess is it will be a revolving door of players mixed until a group shows some chemistry
- Redmile247

Just as long as Sutter isn't there I have hope.

once again, agreed.

not sure why but you seem to make sense to my line of thinking...
- kaptaan

makes you wonder what is going through the minds of some of the vets? Their jobs to lose, don't get hurt in the preseason to open up a spot for a youngster?

Anyone that is perceived to be fringe should be playing like their job is on the line.

If a vet who doesn't even have a opening night spot locked up is too entitled to try in the pre-season then why is he here? And do we want him around our young guys?
- Nucker101

The mentality I think comes from the player's perception of themselves as an asset. If they perform poorly in the preseason and lose their job, the Canucks will be resistant in dealing them when the asset has diminished. Normally they want to play up these players in order to create a market and increase the value of return. The players know that these games are meaningless and they will get the first 10-15 games of the season to establish their spots on a roster they are more than certainly going to make (even if its because of numbers/contracts)

I say keep 8D, our guys after the top 3 are either unproven or suck and injuries to defense seem more common so it makes way more sense than 14 forwards. I don't get why it has to be Hutton or Corrado.
- Nucker101

It doesn't have to be, but if mgmt insists on Virtanen staying up for a bit, 14 forwards is more likely.

If it comes down to Hutton and Corrado, IMO its an no-brainer to give Corrado a legit shot and call up Hutton if he is continuing his strong play.

I don't see any negative to sending Hutton down other then being potentially having a bit worse depth to start the season.
Whereas risking a player you have developed over a number of years and has earned a chance with his play last year in Utica at this point is a negative.

I am not a fan of baertchi
- Yannick72

Well if the head coach is urging them to go all out then clearly their jobs are actually on the line and maybe Hutton is playing for a roster spot...or maybe WD is full of poop.
- Nucker101

Jobs are on the line but it doesnt have to mean on D....

The job that sounds most on the line is Vey if you listen to how JB handled the question about the 4rth line saying they are looking at a 2nd PP unit with that position. That sounds like Mccann to me... and he is playing almost all the pre season games...

JB was defelective when asked about a D job open. I'm feeling that they are going to give Hutton a big look but are in no hurry to rush him into the line up. There is no need.

This is more about development imo. It seems you are hung up on results this season again even though you yell tank so often. You want a better player in this and that position... not putting a priority on devlopement... just who plays better in the pre season... these are longer term decision implications that have to be considered... and ya, you usually get bent about the short term stuff low risk stuff so I'm not surprised you are playing it all backwards...

Just as long as Sutter isn't there I have hope.
- Nucker101

Unfortunately he will be there ...for part at least

Catch me up...any roster moves today

I am not a fan of baertchi
- Yannick72

You french guys are all the same. Wanting a first line of Kenins, Prust and Kellen Lain

Catch me up...any roster moves today
- Bieksa#3

Nope, the only news has been McCann will play in the final two games.

Jobs are on the line but it doesnt have to mean on D....

The job that sounds most on the line is Vey if you listen to how JB handled the question about the 4rth line saying they are looking at a 2nd PP unit with that position. That sounds like Mccann to me... and he is playing almost all the pre season games...

JB was defelective when asked about a D job open. I'm feeling that they are going to give Hutton a big look but are in no hurry to rush him into the line up. There is no need.

This is more about development imo. It seems you are hung up on results this season again even though you yell tank so often. You want a better player in this and that position... not putting a priority on devlopement... just who plays better in the pre season... these are longer term decision implications that have to be considered... and ya, you usually get bent about the short term stuff low risk stuff so I'm not surprised you are playing it all backwards...
- boonerbuck

I just don't subscribe to the thinking that a player can't develop in the NHL or develops better in the AHL. Trust me, I have no hope for this year and would love to see a tank. I feel like giving the jobs to the guys who earned it most is healthy for the entire organization moving forward.

You french guys are all the same. Wanting a first line of Kenins, Prust and Kellen Lain
- Bieksa#3

What do the Asian guys and black guys want?

Gaunce has put in a better showing and has more productivity than Baertschi
- VANTEL

Did you watch the comets last year? Bae was by far the MVP. Gaunce has been good but he has a long way to go before being above him in the depth chart.

Did you watch the comets last year? Bae was by far the MVP. Gaunce has been good but he has a long way to go before being above him in the depth chart.
- CanuckDon

MVP amung forwards u mean. Markstrom was there mvp

What do the Asian guys and black guys want?
- Nucker101

asian women?

Did you watch the comets last year? Bae was by far the MVP. Gaunce has been good but he has a long way to go before being above him in the depth chart.
- CanuckDon

Yeah, Sven, Saguinetti and O'Reilly carried that offense most nights.

asian women?
- RealityChecker

asian women?
- RealityChecker

flagged.

I'm still confused then, it sounded like you were refuting that Hutton outperforming Vets was valid.

Isn't that a point in his favor?
- belcherbd

Players come to camp and out play vets for every team in every season... and still don't make the teams.. you start replacing players when this happens at a first look....you will look very stupid when the rookie cools off 15 games later and needs to go back to the AHL

Sigh... whats so hard to understand... the vets don't go all out in the preseason. Who cares if fans think they should... they don't. Maybe a couple do but they are a minority. The argument that they are was crushed by the quote you posted.... which is what I was referring to before you posted the quote to begin with.

Imagine the player movement at the beginning of the season if most of the rookies who had a good showing forced their way onto a team forcing vets and core players out... imagine all the contract complications of burning 1st year of entry level on these decisions... imagine how reluctant free agents would be to sign at a team if they stood out as a team ready to dump you over 3 or 4 preseason showing by rookies... it makes no sense for there to be strict policy of... you dont try hard enough in the preseason...you get dumped.

The message is great and all... but most of the players have heard it all before and are concerned about getting their condition ready and not getting injured. Maybe sonme of these guys would welcome being moved... I don't know.