Corrado is a rhs. More likely that Sbisa goes on waivers to clear a spot for Hutton.
- Scooby_Doo

According to GF, Corrado is on a 2-way contract. If that's true, I would send him to Utica to play 25 mins a night. Just sayin.

They're going to carry 7 Def, but only 6 are going to play. When healthy, I think the top 6 are Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Sbisa, Bartkowski, Weber. So you need to carry a 7th guy and you've got real cap issues so I think the 7th spot should go to either Biega or Fedun... They're unlikely to play much and only 600K against the cap.

No. They wanted the draft pick!
- KB3Point0

But 5th's have little to no value and mean nothing in the long run....

NOBODY WANTED KASSIAN. NOBODY WAS GIVING UP DRAFT PICKS FOR HIM.
- KB3Point0

I thought you guy's loved him?

I'm sure other GM's take notice whenever they see another GM overpaying in a trade/contract negotiation. They'll push for the same when they deal with that same guy.
- Nucker101

That's silly.

According to GF, Corrado is on a 2-way contract. If that's true, I would send him to Utica to play 25 mins a night. Just sayin.

They're going to carry 7 Def, but only 6 are going to play. When healthy, I think the top 6 are Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Sbisa, Bartkowski, Weber. So you need to carry a 7th guy and you've got real cap issues so I think the 7th spot should go to either Biega or Fedun... They're unlikely to play much and only 600K against the cap.
- Max.Betts

2 way has nothing to do with waivers, just the player's salary. He'll have to be waived to go to Utica.

But 5th's have little to no value and mean nothing in the long run....
- Nucker101

So why are Canucks fans so upset we gave one away???

I thought you guy's loved him?
- walshyleafsfan

It's "guys" jackass.

That's silly.
- KB3Point0

So if you were a GM would you not be more likely to push for more from the guy who's overpaid in the past or thrown in little sweeteners than the hardass who walks away from trades over a 6th rounder?

Well if Aquilini is demanding the playoffs or at least a playoff race then Sbisa could be one of the players who costs JB his job or puts him on thin ice heading into next year.
- Nucker101

Thats a pretty big if. I really doubt Aquilini put ultimatums on the playoffs with the direction of the team. He may be serious about trying to get there... but firing GM's who are in the very first stages of repair and rebuild mode for not making the playoffs isnt something that makes any sense. GM's are given job orders when they are hired... the argument about the playoffs being the priority last year were hot... in the end when the TDL passed... it was clear that they were looking at the playoffs being a bonus after their other priorities were handled instead of it being the goal. They did not move assets to improve til after the season...

Some might argue that they would have sold at the TDL then.... but then thats turning your back on the playoffs... like I said, Aquilini wants to make money and be there.... but not at the cost of set backs on the future.

So why are Canucks fans so upset we gave one away???
- KB3Point0

So MTL is stupid? They acquired a problem child and a useless pick for a solid vet?

So if you were a GM would you not be more likely to push for more from the guy who's overpaid in the past or thrown in little sweeteners than the hardass who walks away from trades over a 6th rounder?
- Nucker101

It would not alter what I would accept in a trade, it would only mean that I might try to get more to start.

I thought you guy's loved him?
- walshyleafsfan

I liked him. But if he has a drug/alcohol problem then I can fully understand why they cut ties with him since he's not an elite talent or anything. It's the targeting of Prust that I don't like. He looks washed up.

How would that make you feel, just signed a 3 year contract and the club puts you on waivers? And nobody bites, and it becomes uncomfortable? Media nagging him.


I don't think that contract is the end of the world, but it sure isn't pretty.
- hillbillydeluxe

It would not alter what I would accept in a trade, it would only mean that I might try to get more to start.
- KB3Point0

Exactly. And if the other guy has a history of overpaying a bit, chances are he'll do it again.

So MTL is stupid? They acquired a problem child and a useless pick for a solid vet?
- Nucker101

I never said he was a solid vet. I said he has trade value at the TDL. He's a gritty player with an expiring contract. The exact type contenders love going into the playoffs. We obviously couldn't get a draft pick for Kassian, so moving him for a different asset that we will be able to get a draft pick for is solid asset management.

Doubt it. I'll be happy to eat the crow if I'm wrong though. I'll be happy if they can get a 4th or the 5th they gave up to get him .
- Nucker101

I believe Van fans are going to love this guy. He is similar to Dorsett but a better fighter and hitter. A great late season add for a playoff team needing some grit. Prust would have been able to slow down Ferland last year.

- boonerbuck

Didn't Benning himself say that Baertschi felt left out in Calgary and needed more love and they would do everything to support him? He said something along those lines...LOL at him bringing up a prospects feelings/mentality. What an idiot.

I believe Van fans are going to love this guy. He is similar to Dorsett but a better fighter and hitter. A great late season add for a playoff team needing some grit. Prust would have been able to slow down Ferland last year.
- CanuckDon

I don't question his determination but man he looks too slow to make a hit so far. By the time he gets to the dman, the puck was already on another player's stick. I just hope he's coasting.

The minor things can matter long-term when talking about picks. Every time you move down in the draft or have one less mid/late round pick, your odds of drafting an impact NHL player decrease a bit. I'd rather have Benning working hard to increase those odds rather than decrease them, even if it's only by 2-3%.
- Nucker101

I'm a poker player, so I'm conscious about the odds, but here's the thing: When you're dealing with cards (or human beings) random chance comes into play. Odds aren't indicative of success, you're going to get variance and a lot of it dealing with 17-18 year olds who aren't fully formed physically, mentally, emotionally and skill-wise. I'm not so concerned about draft picks, I'm more concerned about the club developing their talent, wherever or whenever they've been drafted (whether that be as AHL players or NHL-ready players) to their fullest extent.

I get what your saying, every little percentage point helps, but if the odds are so low once you get out of the the top 20 in the first round, what difference does it really make? Whether you improve your odds with higher picks or not, that still doesn't significantly improve the chances of those players developing. This is why, while I love that we have our own AHL club in Utica so that we don't have to send players to other AHL clubs to get them playing time to develop, it really should be on the West Coast so that the players can get used to the travel.

The Garrison trade was a great move because he had a full NMC. Getting him to waive that untied our hands a little.

Rumour has it that Desjardins really like Sbisa from his time in the WHL. To much is made of the contract extension IMO.

Bonino was an asset. We used that asset to help get a better asset. It wasn't Benning's evaluation, it's that was all we could get from Anaheim who had us over a barrel.

Who said not to judge him on the players he's brought in and the ones he's signed? I just said that you can't judge him on the Kesler trade because the Ducks had us over a barrel and his only other option was to keep Kesler (and when Daniel and Henrik come to you and tell you a guy has to go, that guy HAS TO GO).
- KB3Point0

I have no idea what happened behind the scene with Kesler/Sbisa etc but at the end of the day there were 3 reported teams interested not 1 as many like to pretend ( Chi, Pit, Anh). I also don't have a problem accepting that Benning got as good as he could in that trade because he was in a tough position.

My point is that Benning said he targeted both Sbisa and Bonino and promoted them as important pieces of that deal. I choose to take him for his word, instead of making assumptions. So I will judge his evaluation of players based upon this.

Had he said, we really wanted an extra 1st round pick and another NHL C in our mix and that Sbisa was a guy who we thought could help our d depth it would be different.

I never said he was a solid vet. I said he has trade value at the TDL. He's a gritty player with an expiring contract. The exact type contenders love going into the playoffs. We obviously couldn't get a draft pick for Kassian, so moving him for a different asset that we will be able to get a draft pick for is solid asset management.
- KB3Point0

That's fair. My only issues is that Prust takes a spot from a younger player.

I still wonder what San Jose was willing to offer for Miller? (according to Friedman)

Vancouver is brutal place for a goalie to play in and Lack was one of the few that could handle it.
- classic321

Gee, I wonder why it so hard to play here... wouldnt be because of ass hats like you would it?

So MTL is stupid? They acquired a problem child and a useless pick for a solid vet?
- Nucker101

Yes exaxtly...I guarantee kassian is in a strip club right now doing some lines off the stage. MTL is indeed stupid for tAking in this project. A poop leopard can't change his spots

- boonerbuck

I did have a post after that spoke more about Sbisa's confidence.

And the reason(s) why many on here would try to send him to Utica were known when he was signed and I don't think these flaws in his game would all of a sudden play a part in sending him to Utica. It isn't consistent.

sorry for the initial troll.

that song is classic.

Yeah, I get why he dwelt him but to give away a later pick and get an older/more expensive player on top of it.
Prust looks slow as hell these days.
- Nucker101

Skates like Cody Hodgson...