Stamkos has 2 Rocket Richard trophies. The Sedins combined have none.

Edit: All 3 have 2 major individual awards wins. You're on a roll.
- tomburton99

The Hart, Lester and 2 art ross' seem to outway it, no?

Not surprised that JJ chose Keith.

The Hart, Lester and 2 art ross' seem to outway it, no?
- Bieksa#3

It still amounts to one right. Even if it's 4 over 2 players. Also Stamkos has 9 years on the Sedins.

Again Doughty will be on Keiths level, when Doughty racks up 3 individual awards. Right now Doughty has none, but still has time.

It still amounts to one right. Even if it's 4 over 2 players. Also Stamkos has 9 years on the Sedins.

Again Doughty will be on Keiths level, when Doughty racks up 3 individual awards. Right now Doughty has none, but still has time.
- tomburton99

Interesting note. Every single defenseman to win a Conn Smythe previous to Keith is in the HHOF. Savard, Orr, Robinson, MacInnis, Leetch, Stevens, Lidstrom and Niedermayer. Nice company for Keith to be in.

Interesting note. Every single defenseman to win a Conn Smythe previous to Keith is in the HHOF. Savard, Orr, Robinson, MacInnis, Leetch, Stevens, Lidstrom and Niedermayer. Nice company for Keith to be in.
- smellmyfinger

Yeah. That's why Keith is among the best of the best. Also he and Karlsson are d-men to win multiple Norris trophies not be in HHOF. Obviously cause both are still active. Keith really putting together a career for himself.

I'm sorry but I really don't get the OEL love. He's a great young defenseman but he had like 40 points and a minus 18

I'm sorry but I really don't get the OEL love. He's a great young defenseman but he had like 40 points and a minus 18
- QuickSCF

Well, not that +/- means (frank) all...but he plays on one of the smelliest dog poop teams in the league...

Well, not that +/- means (frank) all...but he plays on one of the smelliest dog poop teams in the league...
- Jeropotato

Pfft, C'mon Mike Smith is going to be a top goalie again.

Pfft, C'mon Mike Smith is going to be a top goalie again.
- tomburton99

In the Swiss elite league?

Pfft, C'mon Mike Smith is going to be a top goalie again.
- tomburton99

Top 5 in the world, and don't forget they have superstar center Hanzal!

Top 5 in the world, and don't forget they have superstar center Hanzal!
- smellmyfinger

Elite #1 center.

Does Keith play against opposition teams top lines yet? I don't think anyone else controls the game like Doughty does regardless of who he is playing against or paired with.

The man, only a matter of time before he gets picked up by PDB and is playing with Vlasic.
- smellmyfinger

Don't make me Rafi Torres you.

Top 5 in the world, and don't forget they have superstar center Hanzal!
- smellmyfinger

He's so OEL that Hanzal.

Don't make me Rafi Torres you.
- SJSharks39

see that, when Raffi gets suspended the roster spot is wide open for Petey Jr.

honorable mention, Kris Letang: If he would ever play a whole season (or near one, 75-80 games would suffice at least), we might be able to consider you for a top 5 ranking for once.

see that, when Raffi gets suspended the roster spot is wide open for Petey Jr.
- smellmyfinger

I'm waiting for you guys to do best goaltender so JJ can put Corey Crawford at #1.

Joking aside, I actually agree with all of JJ's lists for the most part. I'd be interested to see his wingers list, as apparently he has a temper tantrum and doesn't submit one if a Chicago player isn't #1 at that position.

Doughty doesn't have a Norris due to the east coast biased people.

More 1st place votes last year and got snubbed by the HOF Lidstrom in his sophomore year. IMO Doughty should have 2 right now or at least 1.

Doughty doesn't have a Norris due to the east coast biased people.

More 1st place votes last year and got snubbed by the HOF Lidstrom in his sophomore year. IMO Doughty should have 2 right now or at least 1.
- KINGS67

There was actually a (frank) head or 2 who didn't even place him in the top 5. The PHWA are a joke anyway, so I put no merit in individual awards that are determined by those goofs.

In before the haters of everyone except JJ.

"Karlsson doesn't play defense." "He should be a winger." "PKing is the decisive measure of defensive quality." "Look at his plus/minus rating from the year it was bad!" "I don't care, if you can't physically dominate someone, you can't be a top-5 defenseman. That's why Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, and Zdeno Chara (for some reason) are my top 3."

I think that's all the criticisms we'll see

Oh, and one of my own: Karlsson isn't as good turning right as he is turning left - he's not really what you would call an 'ambiturner'.
- Mr_Clean

I think if you look at my list versus the others, you will see I put defense first, or at least being as important as what the guy contributes offensively. I like Karlsson, absolutely, but . . .

Not surprised that JJ chose Keith.
- Jeropotato

Hey Jero, it's an easy argument to support. I know you watched the playoffs this Spring.

Does Keith play against opposition teams top lines yet? I don't think anyone else controls the game like Doughty does regardless of who he is playing against or paired with.
- bluecoconuts

Umm, yeah?

He's so OEL that Hanzal.
- SJSharks39

Hanzal, he's so OEL right now . . . Hanzal.

Letang IS NOT TOP 5... but he's as good or better offensively then Karlson when healthy.... comparing Karlson to Mario is a joke...

KEITH IS THE BEST... I love Doughty, Weber and Hedman... Don't get the hate on Keith???? 2 Norris and a Con Smyth!!!!