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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 6 @ 11:26 AM ET
Todays practice lines
Moulson-O'Reilly-Ennis
Kane-Eichel-Gionta
Foligno-Girgensons-Reinhart
Deslauriers-Legwand-Larsson/McGinn

Im confused..

- yen6d1



That third line could be a puck possession machine/
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
That third line could be a puck possession machine/
- Sabresfan-365

Odd not seeing players like Ellis, Kaleta, Scott, Mccormick as our 3rd-4th liners. Who ever will we use at this seasons useless player ?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
That third line could be a puck possession machine/
- Sabresfan-365


Im no fancy math guy, but girgensons and foligno are average or below average possession players, or am I wrong? based on their hero chart information
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
Im no fancy math guy, but girgensons and foligno are average or below average possession players, or am I wrong? based on their hero chart information
- DDM-Coga



Both. Yea they were probably below average last year but the fact is below average on last years sabres is quite the accomplishment. Most of the fancy stats guys had to adjust the x/y axis of their charts to get their stats.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Oct 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
So they're going after Trent Richardson when Bradshaw is way better am I missing something here
- gerbe75pts

yes your tin foil hat
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
Todays practice lines
Moulson-O'Reilly-Ennis
Kane-Eichel-Gionta
Foligno-Girgensons-Reinhart
Deslauriers-Legwand-Larsson/McGinn

Im confused..

- yen6d1


I like the fact that there is 7 guys fighting for the bottom 6, creates healthy competition. I would rather see Larsson on the 3rd line with Reinhart and Girgs and put Foligno/DesLauriers/Legwand on the 4th and McGinn the extra forward. Lots of options here.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 6 @ 11:43 AM ET
Odd not seeing players like Ellis, Kaleta, Scott, Mccormick as our 3rd-4th liners. Who ever will we use at this seasons useless player ?
- cabin


Reported!!!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
I could be late, but Gionta is officially the captain again.

http://sabres.buffalonews...-wear-c-on-sabres-jersey/
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
I could be late, but Gionta is officially the captain again.

http://sabres.buffalonews...-wear-c-on-sabres-jersey/

- buffalofan19


I didn't think it would change. I guess with a new coaching staff you never know, but I never even assumed that it was a possibility he wouldn't be.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
If you go back a few pages you'll see some that I've been getting for about a week in my Dynasty league. The guys in that league must think I'm an idiot or something.
- HonkFortheGoose


It's not that. It's more or less fishing. Every so often, the other person fires back a proposal and talks happen. Sometimes, though, they think they can play you.

I know in my league we all know each other very well (I actually predicted one of the guys first 3 picks and nailed all 3) But we'll fire off proposals to each other every day till something sticks. It's entertaining if anything.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:16 PM ET
Bylsma is killing me here. Seeing the same line twice in a row is a rarity. Makes things interesting and annoying. Mr. Featured (Kane) is bumped to the 2nd line.
And to use everyone's favorite phrase "to be fair.." Kane and Eichel's speed will mesh extremely well together. My concern here is Gionta's lack of offensive ability bringing them down. Then again, Brandon Sutter is playing with the Sedin's. I don't even know what color grass is anymore.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
It's not that. It's more or less fishing. Every so often, the other person fires back a proposal and talks happen. Sometimes, though, they think they can play you.

I know in my league we all know each other very well (I actually predicted one of the guys first 3 picks and nailed all 3) But we'll fire off proposals to each other every day till something sticks. It's entertaining if anything.

- TheSabresTaco


I sent a trade proposal last night to the guy that keeps trying to get Holtby from me. I asked for Bishop and offered Spezza and Lehtonen. Let's see if he accepts.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
I didn't think it would change. I guess with a new coaching staff you never know, but I never even assumed that it was a possibility he wouldn't be.
- HonkFortheGoose


I read that this morning. Agree with the assessment. He was brought here to be the leader, and he's done a fine job of it so far. Praise from both fans and players and the coach. Who knew.

There was a time where it was either Pommer or Vanek.

Christ.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Bylsma is killing me here. Seeing the same line twice in a row is a rarity. Makes things interesting and annoying. Mr. Featured (Kane) is bumped to the 2nd line.
And to use everyone's favorite phrase "to be fair.." Kane and Eichel's speed will mesh extremely well together. My concern here is Gionta's lack of offensive ability bringing them down. Then again, Brandon Sutter is playing with the Sedin's. I don't even know what color grass is anymore.

- TheSabresTaco



There are certain players that bring up everybody's offensive ability. If Eichel lives up to the hype, he will be one of those players.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Murray sending down Samson would be the same as Galavan stabbing Jerome in the neck.
- Der Kaiser

He's not really dead
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
I sent a trade proposal last night to the guy that keeps trying to get Holtby from me. I asked for Bishop and offered Spezza and Lehtonen. Let's see if he accepts.
- HonkFortheGoose


Well hopefully he gets the point. If he doesn't, he'll make fun of you for being an IDIOT
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
Bylsma is killing me here. Seeing the same line twice in a row is a rarity. Makes things interesting and annoying. Mr. Featured (Kane) is bumped to the 2nd line.
And to use everyone's favorite phrase "to be fair.." Kane and Eichel's speed will mesh extremely well together. My concern here is Gionta's lack of offensive ability bringing them down. Then again, Brandon Sutter is playing with the Sedin's. I don't even know what color grass is anymore.

- TheSabresTaco


My guess is he has Kane and Eichel together because Eichel will be taking over the 1C duties at some point this year.

Plus spreading out the top talent over a few lines makes it harder for the other team to shut them all down.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
There are certain players that bring up everybody's offensive ability. If Eichel lives up to the hype, he will be one of those players.
- buffalofan19


I agree, which is why I should have reworded that to maybe their offensive potential could be maximized by putting someone with a little more ability and speed with them.

But what do I know.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
There are certain players that bring up everybody's offensive ability. If Eichel lives up to the hype, he will be one of those players.
- buffalofan19


Gionta did put up 16 points in 14 games to end the year, so it's not like he doesn't have the capability to do it. Putting him with a guy like Eichel should definitely keep him on that same type of path.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
I agree, which is why I should have reworded that to maybe their offensive potential could be maximized by putting someone with a little more ability and speed with them.

But what do I know.

- TheSabresTaco



I almost want to see Reinhart on that line instead of Gionta, but that becomes a really young line, even considering that Kane has been around a while.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
My guess is he has Kane and Eichel together because Eichel will be taking over the 1C duties at some point this year.

Plus spreading out the top talent over a few lines makes it harder for the other team to shut them all down.

- HonkFortheGoose


Solid assessment.

And with the second sentence, it's worth pondering. I mean, your 1-2 center to start the season is solid. Ennis on L1 is obvious. So take a bit of talent off of 1 to add onto 2 (Kane-Eichel-Gio) might be more effective without Moulson.

The talent spread there in our top 6 is actually legit.

Last year, Moulson-Girgensons-Ennis. What the (frank).
What was line 2 to start? Foligno-Hodgson-Stafford? What a hot (frank)ing pile.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
Bylsma is killing me here. Seeing the same line twice in a row is a rarity. Makes things interesting and annoying. Mr. Featured (Kane) is bumped to the 2nd line.
And to use everyone's favorite phrase "to be fair.." Kane and Eichel's speed will mesh extremely well together. My concern here is Gionta's lack of offensive ability bringing them down. Then again, Brandon Sutter is playing with the Sedin's. I don't even know what color grass is anymore.

- TheSabresTaco


I don't think coaches attach a number to a line anymore, no 1,2 or 3rd lines, etc. The only given is the 4th line. I could be wrong but that's how I tend to see it, it's just TOI averages that matter.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
Solid assessment.

And with the second sentence, it's worth pondering. I mean, your 1-2 center to start the season is solid. Ennis on L1 is obvious. So take a bit of talent off of 1 to add onto 2 (Kane-Eichel-Gio) might be more effective without Moulson.

The talent spread there in our top 6 is actually legit.

Last year, Moulson-Girgensons-Ennis. What the (frank).
What was line 2 to start? Foligno-Hodgson-Stafford? What a hot (frank)ing pile.

- TheSabresTaco


What a difference a year makes.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 6 @ 12:26 PM ET
Did Samson get sent down
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:26 PM ET
I almost want to see Reinhart on that line instead of Gionta, but that becomes a really young line, even considering that Kane has been around a while.
- buffalofan19


I was thinking the same thing but I also do believe when Reinhart adds more body mass and can essentially do anything Gio can do, including strong wall and net front play, he will for sure take over R2. Or even C2 when Eichel goes C1 and ROR plays R1/2
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