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scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Oct 6 @ 5:57 PM ET
The bag was a real evidence bag and authentic though, wasn't it? Thought it contained evidence (her shirt/sweater/coat) but had been cleared somehow?
- stashu

The nurse gave the bag in question to the mother for the 'top' she had changed out of before going to the hospital. When the police arrived at the mother's house, they used their own evidence bag for the 'top'.

The bag the mother had was never used, and apparently always in the mother's possession.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 6 @ 5:58 PM ET
The nurse gave the bag in question to the mother for the 'top' she had changed out of before going to the hospital. When the police arrived at the mother's house, they used their own evidence bag for the 'top'.

The bag the mother had was never used, and apparently always in the mother's possession.

- scottak


The bag was not evidence bag but a clothing bag.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Oct 6 @ 5:59 PM ET

- TommyHawk


Technically I think it is 13 games but I am not counting the first game that Hitch dressed him but only played him 5.5 minutes or so.
moms2sense1puck
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Near the Lake, IL
Joined: 07.21.2015

Oct 6 @ 5:59 PM ET
Not saying that Pokka isn't up in order to potentially showcase him, but the main reason he is here is because his salary number fits the best for the Hawks.

They needed to get their total cap # to be as close to 71.4 as possible, after putting Rozy on LTIR. Svedberg makes 575k and Pokka makes 925k. By having Pokka up, the Hawks before Rozy LTIR are $539k over the cap. Had they left Svedberg up, they would only be $189k over the cap and that then influences how much they can spend later in the season when Rozy is still on LTIR. This way, they can spend up to that $539k over the cap as long as Rozy is still on LTIR.

They did the same thing last year or the year before with Stephen Johns. Had him on the roster because his salary fit the equation the best and then once the roster was locked down, he was shipped back to Rockford and someone else was brought up.

- jpetersen5


Thanks for the detailed explanation, guess I was just wishful hoping...
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Oct 6 @ 6:02 PM ET
Let me ask you a question. If someone else raped her and Kane restrained her—which the DNA evidence would not necessarily contradict—would that not be "assault" on his part?

Did that happen? I don't know. Neither do you. It is just as plausible as saying he did nothing and he is an innocent victim of a lie.

- John Jaeckel


If this was even in the realm of possibilities, the other people (if there were any) would have been tested and if they matched, Kane would be in a whole lot more trouble. It's not just rape, but false imprisonment, gang rape... etc.

Besides a more plausible argument is that Kane has chimera genetics.

busmaster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 08.06.2010

Oct 6 @ 6:06 PM ET
Malkin's GWG rate is amazing. Toews is as well for someone who isn't know as much as a goal scorer.

I hope that in a few years Tarasenko is added to that list. He is:

Tank - 12 gms - 10g - 11pts - 2gwg

- stljam



Can someone tell me whats the big deal with the GWG stat? As I understand it, if you score a goal in the first 30 seconds of a 1-0 game, or the 6th goal of a 6-5 game to make the score 6-0 in the first, those are both GWGs. Or, even if you scored the 6th goal in a 6-0 game that ends up 12-5.

Is it really a reflection of clutchness?
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
Can someone tell me whats the big deal with the GWG stat? As I understand it, if you score a goal in the first 30 seconds of a 1-0 game, or the 6th goal of a 6-5 game to make the score 6-0 in the first, those are both GWGs. Or, even if you scored the 6th goal in a 6-0 game that ends up 12-5.

Is it really a reflection of clutchness?

- busmaster

I guess you can say that you score goals when they're needed the most.
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:17 PM ET
That being said, I'm not really one to use the word "clutch", I don't really believe in it.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Oct 6 @ 6:25 PM ET
Can someone tell me whats the big deal with the GWG stat? As I understand it, if you score a goal in the first 30 seconds of a 1-0 game, or the 6th goal of a 6-5 game to make the score 6-0 in the first, those are both GWGs. Or, even if you scored the 6th goal in a 6-0 game that ends up 12-5.

Is it really a reflection of clutchness?

- busmaster

Yes, the NHL does a bad job of determining the winning goalie as well. It should be the way MLB does it with pitchers.

For instance, if a relief goalie comes in with his team down 4-0, gives up 1 goal to make it 5-0, and they lose 5-4, the second goalie gets the loss.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:26 PM ET
That being said, I'm not really one to use the word "clutch", I don't really believe in it.
- ezekial



Seabrook is clutch.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:27 PM ET
Yes, the NHL does a bad job of determining the winning goalie as well. It should be the way MLB does it with pitchers.

For instance, if a relief goalie comes in with his team down 4-0, gives up 1 goal to make it 5-0, and they lose 5-4, the second goalie gets the loss.

- scottak


Better yet. There is a goalie who is currently an analyst that got a loss in a game in which he never gave up a goal.
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:29 PM ET
Seabrook is clutch.
- DarthKane


Seabrook is a good player, so he makes plays at good times.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:34 PM ET
That being said, I'm not really one to use the word "clutch", I don't really believe in it.
- ezekial

Didn't realize there was a belief system in how people used certain words.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
Seabrook is a good player, so he makes plays at good times.
- ezekial


ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:46 PM ET
Didn't realize there was a belief system in how people used certain words.
- paulr

I think the best time in sports you can say someone is clutch is like a free throw at the end of a basketball game. Maybe a free/penalty kick in soccer. Maybe a pitcher keeping his cool in the bottom of the 9th in the world series. Perhaps a shootout goal, but not so much. That's about it.

I think "clutch factor" in a player is an overstatement, I don't think being "clutch" is a good way to characterize and athlete. People call Eli Manning clutch for his super bowl victories. He rode an amazing D line and got a lucky helmet catch for one.
I don't think a player shooting a puck from the point in a hockey game is clutch. Sorry.
I think it's an overused, over valued, unquantifiable word.
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:46 PM ET

- DarthKane

That doesn't make it so.

If you want to think someone is clutch believe it. I was just stating that I don't. You don't have to jump down my throat.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:48 PM ET
I think the best time in sports you can say someone is clutch is like a free throw at the end of a basketball game. Maybe a free/penalty kick in soccer. Maybe a pitcher keeping his cool in the bottom of the 9th in the world series. Perhaps a shootout goal, but not so much. That's about it.

I think "clutch factor" in a player is an overstatement, I don't think being "clutch" is a good way to characterize and athlete. People call Eli Manning clutch for his super bowl victories. He rode an amazing D line and got a lucky helmet catch for one.
I don't think a player shooting a puck from the point in a hockey game is clutch. Sorry.
I think it's an overused, over valued, unquantifiable word.

- ezekial


How about this? Is this clutch?

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:50 PM ET
That doesn't make it so.

If you want to think someone is clutch believe it. I was just stating that I don't. You don't have to jump down my throat.

- ezekial



I'm just having some good fun with you. I totally get what you're saying.
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
How about this? Is this clutch?


- DarthKane

You realize Jimmy Howard is awful in the shootout right?

Like absolutely terrible...
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
You realize Jimmy Howard is awful?

Like absolutely terrible...

- ezekial



Fixed.
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
I'm just having some good fun with you. I totally get what you're saying.
- DarthKane

ok


How did link the video?

I see your Frolik and raise you a Pavel Datsyuk

https://youtu.be/unYqz6bnsKk
ezekial
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.29.2014

Oct 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
Fixed.
- DarthKane

Yeaaaa until he hurt his groin last year he was one of the best goalies in the league and never really recovered from that. So I'm going to disagree.

I'm #teamMrazek though.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
I think the best time in sports you can say someone is clutch is like a free throw at the end of a basketball game. Maybe a free/penalty kick in soccer. Maybe a pitcher keeping his cool in the bottom of the 9th in the world series. Perhaps a shootout goal, but not so much. That's about it.

I think "clutch factor" in a player is an overstatement, I don't think being "clutch" is a good way to characterize and athlete. People call Eli Manning clutch for his super bowl victories. He rode an amazing D line and got a lucky helmet catch for one.
I don't think a player shooting a puck from the point in a hockey game is clutch. Sorry.
I think it's an overused, over valued, unquantifiable word.

- ezekial


Ok I see what you're saying. I'd agree, the term clutch is overused and it loses its real meaning.

My pet peeve is the overuse of the term Superstar. It used to mean the best of the best NHL players and now some people talk about team having three or four superstars.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
ok


How did link the video?

I see your Frolik and raise you a Pavel Datsyuk

https://youtu.be/unYqz6bnsKk

- ezekial



Click on the 'share' icon in youtube and you'll get the embedded link.

That was a sweet goal, but Niemi is probably as good (or bad) as Howard in the shootout / penalty shots.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
ok


How did link the video?

I see your Frolik and raise you a Pavel Datsyuk

https://youtu.be/unYqz6bnsKk

- ezekial

I see your Datsyuk and raise you a Toews


http://youtu.be/Z5LV4yr7YV0
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