Scott Cullen of TSN is just the worst:

"Rick Nash – The Rangers winger has no points, but leads the team with 10 shots on goal, in three games. Maybe give him more than 15:26 of ice time per game, eh coach?"

we are 3-0 moron

I took it down I don't want to get banned
- Vukota

Was gonna say that would have been a long timeout.

Scott Cullen of TSN is just the worst:

"Rick Nash – The Rangers winger has no points, but leads the team with 10 shots on goal, in three games. Maybe give him more than 15:26 of ice time per game, eh coach?"

we are 3-0 moron
- jimbro83

It goes beyond the media, Rangers fans on FB pages are out with pitchforks because Glass is playing over Fast and Etem at the moment.

Some Rangers fans are just miserable human beings.

It goes beyond the media, Rangers fans on FB pages are out with pitchforks because Glass is playing over Fast and Etem at the moment.

Some Rangers fans are just miserable human beings.
- MidnightMarauder

people need to get a grip, and also realize that Tanner Glass led the game with 7 hits the other night

as long as he leads games in hits, he is going to play, like it or not

people need to get a grip, and also realize that Tanner Glass led the game with 7 hits the other night

as long as he leads games in hits, he is going to play, like it or not
- jimbro83

Here's the way I see it, when the Rangers are not winning I understand why fans slag on the team. I am not prone to ripping on them when justified. But when they consistently win, regardless of which players are out there, I just don't see the logic in the whining. Isn't that what it's all about, in sports, winning? Who cares who is dressed if the team's level of play is high and they are piling up victories.

Complain when things are going bad, by all means, but when things are going well, and people are still unhappy, I really have no time for it. Too many loser Ranger fans. This is the best four or five year stretch, this team has gone on, in my 24 years of being a fan.

Friggen enough, Glass did not hurt them last game.

Here's the way I see it, when the Rangers are not winning I understand why fans slag on the team. I am not prone to ripping on them when justified. But when they consistently win, regardless of which players are out there, I just don't see the logic in the whining. Isn't that what it's all about, in sports, winning? Who cares who is dressed if the team's level of play is high and they are piling up victories.

Complain when things are going bad, by all means, but when things are going well, and people are still unhappy, I really have no time for it. Too many loser Ranger fans. This is the best four or five year stretch, this team has gone on, in my 24 years of being a fan.

Friggen enough, Glass did not hurt them last game.
- MidnightMarauder

(frank) that. Get Dan Boyle off this team immediately

(frank) that. Get Dan Boyle off this team immediately
- rangerdanger94

And he is being benched tonight. Point is, Vigneault's decisions are constantly called into question and I think that is hilarious. He is probably the best coach the team's had since Fred Shero in the mid-70's.

Screw Keenan, he was blessed with great player leadership that bailed him out as he almost folded under the pressure against Jersey in 1994.

Vigneault is such a solid NHL head coach and all fans do is cry that he plays Tanner Glass and not praise the literal dozens of great calls he has made since he has been here.

Scott Cullen of TSN is just the worst:

"Rick Nash – The Rangers winger has no points, but leads the team with 10 shots on goal, in three games. Maybe give him more than 15:26 of ice time per game, eh coach?"

we are 3-0 moron
- jimbro83

Save some the ice time for the Playoffs. I have no problem with that.

And he is being benched tonight. Point is, Vigneault's decisions are constantly called into question and I think that is hilarious. He is probably the best coach the team's had since Fred Shero in the mid-70's.

Screw Keenan, he was blessed with great player leadership that bailed him out as he almost folded under the pressure against Jersey in 1994.

Vigneault is such a solid NHL head coach and all fans do is cry that he plays Tanner Glass and not praise the literal dozens of great calls he has made since he has been here.
- MidnightMarauder

I follow a guy on twitter. He was so passive aggressive towards Boyle being bench. Needless to say he's a BIG believer in adavanced stats. Than he started retweeting Boyle's #'s.

And he is being benched tonight. Point is, Vigneault's decisions are constantly called into question and I think that is hilarious. He is probably the best coach the team's had since Fred Shero in the mid-70's.

Screw Keenan, he was blessed with great player leadership that bailed him out as he almost folded under the pressure against Jersey in 1994.

Vigneault is such a solid NHL head coach and all fans do is cry that he plays Tanner Glass and not praise the literal dozens of great calls he has made since he has been here.
- MidnightMarauder

AV's better

AV's better
- jimbro83

I wasn't even a zygote when Shero first took over and was just born the year he took them to the finals against the Habs. My father, and other elder Rangers fans in the family, spoke highly of him though.

Since I have been following this team Vigneault is clearly my favorite coach and, without debate, is the team's best coach during that span.

AV's better
- jimbro83

His winning percentage with this team is crazy good. Around .600.

I wasn't even a zygote when Shero first took over and was just born the year he took them to the finals against the Habs. My father, and other elder Rangers fans in the family, spoke highly of him though.

Since I have been following this team Vigneault is clearly my favorite coach and, without debate, is the team's best coach during that span.
- MidnightMarauder

He just wasn't around long, I do remember when he got fired early in the 1980-81 season, Rangers fired him like 20 games into that season or so after a bad loss to Philadelphia

I follow a guy on twitter. He was so passive aggressive towards Boyle being bench. Needless to say he's a BIG believer in adavanced stats. Than he started retweeting Boyle's #'s.
- tomburton99

Tanner?

Tanner?
- mdw7413

No. Guy is named Martin R. Burns. His RT's

‏@zellenthal · 20h20 hours ago
Dan Boyle had the best relative Corsi% on the Rangers last season.

‏@DSF456 · 20h20 hours ago :
@zellenthal 52.7% Corsi, 54.5% SC, 54.9% HDSC, 63.3% Goals. #bum

Corsi is a Ponzi scheme

Corsi is a Ponzi scheme
- jimbro83

Basically. Idk how his corsi #'s are so good, we he's never responsible defensively. I just don't understand.

He just wasn't around long, I do remember when he got fired early in the 1980-81 season, Rangers fired him like 20 games into that season or so after a bad loss to Philadelphia
- jimbro83

The Rangers have a not so successful history, especially in the modern era, yet here we are, going through a pretty strong run despite a championship, and yet there are a ton of complaints as if they are dwelling in the standings basement.

I truly have come to terms that this thread is just about the only place, on the internets, that I can rationally discuss this team. FB boards are lower wrung with the exception of a few.

Corsi is a Ponzi scheme
- jimbro83

It's not a stat I consider when discussing what constitutes a good hockey player/team.

It's not a stat I consider when discussing what constitutes a good hockey player/team.
- MidnightMarauder

my last straw is it being pointed out that JT Miller's "possession numbers" haven't been good the first 3 games.

I gave these kinds of stats 1% of credibility before

now they are at absolute zero

my last straw is it being pointed out that JT Miller's "possession numbers" haven't been good the first 3 games.

I gave these kinds of stats 1% of credibility before

now they are at absolute zero
- jimbro83

It's a data set that effectively measures shots for and shots against when a player is on the ice. I believe that Fenwick is similar, but measures shot attempts. Glen can correct me if I am wrong on this. Not obviously that has some utility, some, but it can't be used solely to assess a player's worth.

Who is the player typically on the ice against?
Does he play against the other teams top line, or third and fourth line, typically?
Does the team for which the player plays consistently protects leads, in which case the style of game changes -- i.e., a team that is constantly protecting one goal leads in the third period, might not put much of an emphasis on winning the shot battle.

I am not discounting the utility of the stat, but I also believe you have to trust your own eyes, and realize when a stat can be skewed by other factors.

It's a data set that effectively measures shots for and shots against when a player is on the ice. I believe that Fenwick is similar, but measures shot attempts. Glen can correct me if I am wrong on this. Not obviously that has some utility, some, but it can't be used solely to assess a player's worth.

Who is the player typically on the ice against?
Does he play against the other teams top line, or third and fourth line, typically?
Does the team for which the player plays consistently protects leads, in which case the style of game changes -- i.e., a team that is constantly protecting one goal leads in the third period, might not put much of an emphasis on winning the shot battle.

I am not discounting the utility of the stat, but I also believe you have to trust your own eyes, and realize when a stat can be skewed by other factors.
- Pete V

so, if a player steals the puck in the offensive zone and scores immediately on one shot

or

the player steals the puck, and the team generates 5 shots on net, possessing the puck for one minute in the offensive zone but doesn't score....

option 2 is the better thing to do for fancy stats, right?

And he is being benched tonight. Point is, Vigneault's decisions are constantly called into question and I think that is hilarious. He is probably the best coach the team's had since Fred Shero in the mid-70's.

Screw Keenan, he was blessed with great player leadership that bailed him out as he almost folded under the pressure against Jersey in 1994.

Vigneault is such a solid NHL head coach and all fans do is cry that he plays Tanner Glass and not praise the literal dozens of great calls he has made since he has been here.
- MidnightMarauder

Being bench tonight isn't enough. He needs to be off this team and Diaz should be up here.

Being bench tonight isn't enough. He needs to be off this team and Diaz should be up here.
- rangerdanger94

how? how are you getting Boyle off the team?

he has a no movement clause which prohibits being sent to the minors, a no trade clause as well

if he retired the cap hit stays anyway, they literally can do nothing except healthy scratch Boyle and pray he demands a trade

Being bench tonight isn't enough. He needs to be off this team and Diaz should be up here.
- rangerdanger94

I don't have an issue with that. Boyle's definitely seen his better days.