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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 6:55 PM ET
Yeah, no sense in trading (for) anybody right now, tbh.

Just keep growing as a team -- wait for the kids to trickle in.

- Tomahawk


Other than maybe trading a defenseman, I don't know why the Flyers would be looking to make a trade right now. The cap situation is not dire as it has been characterized in my opinion, either now or in the future. If the Flyers get a ton of short term injuries, than that could force them to do something. It's not ideal to be as low as they are, but it's not an urgent matter. I think the longer the season goes, even towards the deadline, the higher a players value such as Luke Schenn could get. No reason to be in a hurry to do anything. Where the Flyers are in March/April should determine Hextall's approach. Unless some team makes you an offer you can't refuse.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:08 PM ET
Other than maybe trading a defenseman, I don't know why the Flyers would be looking to make a trade right now. The cap situation is not dire as it has been characterized in my opinion, either now or in the future. If the Flyers get a ton of short term injuries, than that could force them to do something. It's not ideal to be as low as they are, but it's not an urgent matter. I think the longer the season goes, even towards the deadline, the higher a players value such as Luke Schenn could get. No reason to be in a hurry to do anything. Where the Flyers are in March/April should determine Hextall's approach. Unless some team makes you an offer you can't refuse.
- MJL


Pretty much. Gotta curb any impatience and temptation.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:11 PM ET
Besides the obvious, Byfuglien, which I really hope is not the target, who might the Flyers be interested in, on Winnipeg?
- MJL


It can't be can it ? Guys a UFA at end of season....can't see giving up what it would take....seriously we are a lot more then one guy away.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 15 @ 7:18 PM ET
Pretty much. Gotta curb any impatience and temptation.
- Tomahawk


Agreed...unless it's youth for youth.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:24 PM ET
It can't be can it ? Guys a UFA at end of season....can't see giving up what it would take....seriously we are a lot more then one guy away.
- landros 2

I can't see it. They've committed to rebuilding the D through the draft. To make that kind of move now would make such little sense. Even more so that he's an impending UFA.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 15 @ 7:33 PM ET


First of all.. I don't believe 95% of Eklund rumor.

But if I'm the Flyers what makes sense is trouba. He's going to want a big contract one that Winnipeg not want to pay. He's 21 and right handed with size and he's already a nhl regular. That's the only guy whose worth it from their roster. And we would absolutely have to give up a top tier prospect for him. But I would say it's worth it. Again the Flyers keep insisting they aren't 5 6 years away. Well if that's the case than we need more than the d prospects we have cause it'll take 5 years for the entire lot to become impact players at minimum.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 15 @ 7:34 PM ET
First of all.. I don't believe 95% of Eklund rumor.

But if I'm the Flyers what makes sense is trouba. He's going to want a big contract one that Winnipeg not want to pay. He's 21 and right handed with size and he's already a nhl regular. That's the only guy whose worth it from their roster. And we would absolutely have to give up a top tier prospect for him. But I would say it's worth it. Again the Flyers keep insisting they aren't 5 6 years away. Well if that's the case than we need more than the d prospects we have cause it'll take 5 years for the entire lot to become impact players at minimum.

- Tfaehner



Also am I the only one worried about a severe umberger injury? Is he LTIR bound?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:39 PM ET
Think we see any fireworks in Pittsburgh if Ottawa pushes them to 0-5 tonight?

When this era's Pens get in a funk... boy, do things get wacky for them.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 15 @ 7:44 PM ET
Think we see any fireworks in Pittsburgh if Ottawa pushes them to 0-5 tonight?

When this era's Pens get in a funk... boy, do things get wacky for them.

- hereticpride



They really shouldn't panic.

They're playing 50/50 hockey at ES, getting decent goaltending... with that much talent, how long will they be stuck at 4% shooting and 0% PP?

Not for long, I bet.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 7:57 PM ET
They really shouldn't panic.

They're playing 50/50 hockey at ES, getting decent goaltending... with that much talent, how long will they be stuck at 4% shooting and 0% PP?

Not for long, I bet.

- Tomahawk


I'm watching -- they just outshot Ottawa 17-6 in the first, including some 10-bellers, including one from the slot that I can't believe didn't go

Yeah, they need a result soon, but this is crazy -- they are playing the right way
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 15 @ 8:01 PM ET
They really shouldn't panic.

They're playing 50/50 hockey at ES, getting decent goaltending... with that much talent, how long will they be stuck at 4% shooting and 0% PP?

Not for long, I bet.

- Tomahawk

I hope it's (frank)ing forever
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:01 PM ET
Other than getting younger, how good is Elhers going to be? Wayne Simmonds is a very good player, with a great contract. I think Wayne Simmonds is and could be a better 5 on 5 player in the right circumstances. I don't view him as a PP specialist like others do.
- MJL


Right there is the allure of moving Simmonds potentially. There is a log jam at RW. B. Schenn if he has to play wing, seems more comfortable on the right side. I really don't think they want to move B. Schenn. He offers a pretty diverse offensive skill set, more so then Simmonds IMO. After Coots extension, I wouldn't call him untouchable, but for him to be involved in a trade would be for something really blockbuster (frankly his value and term probably is going to be better then Simmonds). Any attempt to move Read or Raffl, you would selling low. So, that would leave Simmonds the most likely to be dangled.

I'm not trying to minimize Simmonds' contribution on the ice. However, if I could get a good young player (preferably entry level contract) for Simmonds, I think Hexy would think about it.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:04 PM ET
Malkin, finally -- it really was getting ridiculous. I can see them pumping four more past Anderson tonight if they play like they did in the first
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:08 PM ET
There's two for the Pens -- damn, this has been coming

If Ottawa doesn't watch out, the shooting gallery will commence without mercy
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 15 @ 8:08 PM ET
2-0 Pens I guess I jinxed it.

Boy I can't believe the Jets won't trade us Elhers for AMac.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
2-0 Pens I guess I jinxed it.

Boy I can't believe the Jets won't trade us Elhers for AMac.

- hereticpride


Trouba OR bust
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
First of all.. I don't believe 95% of Eklund rumor.

But if I'm the Flyers what makes sense is trouba. He's going to want a big contract one that Winnipeg not want to pay. He's 21 and right handed with size and he's already a nhl regular. That's the only guy whose worth it from their roster. And we would absolutely have to give up a top tier prospect for him. But I would say it's worth it. Again the Flyers keep insisting they aren't 5 6 years away. Well if that's the case than we need more than the d prospects we have cause it'll take 5 years for the entire lot to become impact players at minimum.

- Tfaehner


To get Trouba, you'd have to give up a top tier prospect plus. Trouba is an established NHL defenseman. As highly ranked as the Flyers prospects are, none of them are a guarantee
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
Jets home opener tomorrow. Forget a trade at this time people are in love with the team after last year/this years start. People forget Winnipeg operates differently. We be crazy up here.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
2-0 Pens I guess I jinxed it.

Boy I can't believe the Jets won't trade us Elhers for AMac.

- hereticpride


The Pens' defense is pretty damn weak, but I can't believe they haven't been scoring. They were shooting absolute bullets in at least three of these games
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
To get Trouba, you'd have to give up a top tier prospect plus. Trouba is an established NHL defenseman. As highly ranked as the Flyers prospects are, none of them are a guarantee
- MJL


Morin simmonds and a 2nd rounder. Sold.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:12 PM ET
Right there is the allure of moving Simmonds potentially. There is a log jam at RW. B. Schenn if he has to play wing, seems more comfortable on the right side. I really don't think they want to move B. Schenn. He offers a pretty diverse offensive skill set, more so then Simmonds IMO. After Coots extension, I wouldn't call him untouchable, but for him to be involved in a trade would be for something really blockbuster (frankly his value and term probably is going to be better then Simmonds). Any attempt to move Read or Raffl, you would selling low. So, that would leave Simmonds the most likely to be dangled.

I'm not trying to minimize Simmonds' contribution on the ice. However, if I could get a good young player (preferably entry level contract) for Simmonds, I think Hexy would think about it.

- ravishingone


I think it makes him more valuable to keep. I don't see a logjam at right wing, at least not right now. I'm not refuting Simmonds value in a trade. If the Flyers offered him up, there'd be a lot of teams in line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:13 PM ET
Morin simmonds and a 2nd rounder. Sold.
- Tfaehner


I think they'd ask for Sanheim or Provorov.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 15 @ 8:14 PM ET
Morin simmonds and a 2nd rounder. Sold.
- Tfaehner


Still no thanks. I would like to see this path Hextall has the team on continue for a longer stretch before making a move that would give up those kinds of assets.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:17 PM ET
Still no thanks. I would like to see this path Hextall has the team on continue for a longer stretch before making a move that would give up those kinds of assets.
- ob18


Doubt they want Simmonds anyway -- as crazy as it might sound, but they already have Wheeler and just extended Stafford

I actually believe Winnipeg was more likely looking at the Blackhawks to see if Bickell has anything left
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Oct 15 @ 8:20 PM ET
I think they'd ask for Sanheim or Provorov.
- MJL


I'd give them Sanheim. Honestly I believe trouba Is a top 2 with edge. Seabrook comparison. Prospects are unknowns. At some point we can't just wait and wait for rookie d prospects. He said a number 1 you can't trade for. Doesn't mean you ccan't trade for a really good young player. I don't believe hextall will wait 5 6 7 years to be a contender I just dont. Patience is one thing but a 7-10 year plan is reserved for the sixers.
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