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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
Hakstol keeps putting Manning out against the Stars top line and he keeps getting exposed. That's bad coaching.
- Feanor

No (frank)in question about it
Dkos
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Simmonds has been meh through 5 games.
- nastyflyergirl

He needs to get in a fight.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
Simmonds has been meh through 5 games.
- nastyflyergirl


Believe me, you breathe that too loud and you are picking on him
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Oct 20 @ 9:07 PM ET
The PK stars looked great there
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 20 @ 9:10 PM ET
Believe me, you breathe that too loud and you are picking on him
- AllInForFlyers



I love Simmonds but he has not played well at all in my opinion. this team is too slow and needs more skill if you ask me
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 9:12 PM ET
I love Simmonds but he has not played well at all in my opinion. this team is too slow and needs more skill if you ask me
- nastyflyergirl


He has not -- doesn't mean he won't, or can't, or needs to be traded. Just means the Flyers need him to be better

The Stars are just a good team. The Flyers are better than last year, but this Stars team is just a tough matchup when they are playing well, and they have been
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 20 @ 9:13 PM ET
Voracek is now 50 some games without an ES goal.

That is nuts. It might be time to break up that line. Keep em together on the PP but ES can't get much worse, can it?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 9:16 PM ET
Voracek is now 50 some games without an ES goal.

That is nuts. It might be time to break up that line. Keep em together on the PP but ES can't get much worse, can it?

- hereticpride


Voracek needs to go a stretch of games where he does nothing but pump shots on net at ES. I have long felt that he just doesn't put enough rubber on net at ES

Again: Doesn't mean he's a bad player. Don't want to trade him. Would've extended him, at those numbers

Just need him to figure it out at ES that 100 percent of the shots you don't take won't go in
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 20 @ 9:16 PM ET
Admittingly I am still feeling out Hakstol but....

Playing a rusty Mason coming off a horrid game and again the best top line in the league is unacceptable with Neuvirth coming off two shutouts.

Matching up Manning and Del Zotto against Benn and Seguin is also unacceptable.

Luke Schenn won a job oon this roster out of camp and is not playing. Manning is a 7th guy, I'm sorry!

Now I realize that my opinion mean zip because I believe Ryan White is more an important player to this roster than Chris Vandevelde or my comparing Vincent Lecavalier not being able to Riley Cote even though the point was completely missed every time but these are my beliefs.

I don't think Vinny is so bad we should called up anything in the minors the play ahead of him. I don't think Cote playing 4 minutes a night for us for a number of seasons is any worse than Vinny playing 10 minutes in a game. This is and will remain my point. I never considered Cote a real hockey player, so I compared Vinny to garbage in making my point, not the enforcer role itself.

Get it?
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Oct 20 @ 9:17 PM ET
Rousel is a dirty (frank)ing rat of an NHL player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:20 PM ET
Hakstol keeps putting Manning out against the Stars top line and he keeps getting exposed. That's bad coaching.
- Feanor


Agree, and he has to play on his off side. Tough assignment for a rookie defenseman.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 20 @ 9:20 PM ET
I think Niemi is having one of those nights that no matter what,if any, adjustments the Flyers make,they will be lucky to get 1 by him.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:21 PM ET
Voracek is now 50 some games without an ES goal.

That is nuts. It might be time to break up that line. Keep em together on the PP but ES can't get much worse, can it?

- hereticpride

different coach and same old Flyers
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 20 @ 9:21 PM ET
Believe me, you breathe that too loud and you are picking on him
- AllInForFlyers



Simmonds has sucked for most of the games.


Bar.........raised
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

Oct 20 @ 9:22 PM ET
Rousel is a dirty (frank)ing rat of an NHL player.
- benjichronic


Roussel

SuperSchennBros
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Oct 20 @ 9:24 PM ET
Voracek is now 50 some games without an ES goal.

That is nuts. It might be time to break up that line. Keep em together on the PP but ES can't get much worse, can it?

- hereticpride

I don't think Voracek dominates anything, ever, without Giroux centering him. Real nice player but last season didn't do him any favors.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
What the hell is up with Columbus? Down 0-3 again.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Radko Gudas is the Flyers best defenseman tonight. Stars best players have been their best players. Voracek is struggling, Simmonds nothing, Giroux not much better. The Couturier line has been lousy. Did I miss anything?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Agree, and he has to play on his off side. Tough assignment for a rookie defenseman.
- MJL


Yeah. Trying not to kill the coach five games in, but you'd like to think that at some point, he realizes that you are dealing with two of the top 6 or 7 players in the league and that they make great defensemen look not too good
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
Agree, and he has to play on his off side. Tough assignment for a rookie defenseman.
- MJL

I don't think there is any excuse for this. Manning isn't a former forst round pick in his 3rd or 4th career season.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
Radko Gudas is the Flyers best defenseman tonight. Stars best players have been their best players. Voracek is struggling, Simmonds nothing, Giroux not much better. The Couturier line has been lousy. Did I miss anything?
- MJL

Simmonds has not had a strong game yet this season. Gotta wonder if he's struggling with the new system.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
Yeah. Trying not to kill the coach five games in, but you'd like to think that at some point, he realizes that you are dealing with two of the top 6 or 7 players in the league and that they make great defensemen look not too good
- AllInForFlyers


I don't really understand that matchup. Granted Manning has not played well, but that's asking a lot of him.
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
Yeah. Trying not to kill the coach five games in, but you'd like to think that at some point, he realizes that you are dealing with two of the top 6 or 7 players in the league and that they make great defensemen look not too good
- AllInForFlyers

Oh sweet jesus, you just nailed it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
Simmonds has not had a strong game yet this season. Gotta wonder if he's struggling with the new system.
- hereticpride


I think it's a combination of his own play, which has not been good, and he hasn't developed any chemistry. He remains a player without set linemates. Read and Couturier have been poor this game also.
SuperSchennBros
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Oct 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
I don't really understand that matchup. Granted Manning has not played well, but that's asking a lot of him.
- MJL

I'm upset by the decision making but I look forward to tomorrow's adjustments because this is amateur poop
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