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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:25 PM ET
we lost a lot of loose puck battles, especially in open ice. not pleased with the execution at all. a ton of bad passes from out of our end that went nowhere.

is this is how it's going to be all year? 1 goal. maybe 2 if we're lucky a night?

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 20 @ 10:26 PM ET
Lindy ruff is an idiot. Why they sat back and allowed the flyers to come at them in the 3rd I'll never understand.

Good effort by the boys. Speed killz
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:27 PM ET
Hate.
- FlyersFirst


yes. a lot.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:28 PM ET
just me, but i would have liked simmonds on the ice in the final 25 seconds off the draw. you need a dirty, crease banger in front in that situation. do. not. like.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:29 PM ET
Raffl channeling Jeff Carter clanking one off Niemi's mask.
- PLindbergh31


i literally screamed carter's name at my tv. more than once.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:30 PM ET
just me, but i would have liked simmonds on the ice in the final 25 seconds off the draw. you need a dirty, crease banger in front in that situation. do. not. like.
- hammarby31


I was wondering the same thing. Hakstol pulled Simmonds off for Couturier. Only reason I can think of is for a 2nd centerman for the draw.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:32 PM ET
just as i feared, they had a poor (but not horrendous) game and lost in the first one back after the glorious 5 day break. let's hope they nip this in the bud right now and get a W tomorrow night.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:34 PM ET
The Flyers organization needs to start changing their policy, do the Flyers ever extend players where they actually produce when they should?

Voracek looks horrible, how about we don't have another year where an extended player doesn't take 15-20 games into the year before they warm up.

Oddly B. Schenn looks like he has a bit of a fire...I wonder why.

First time for the year to see if Hakstol accountability is just a word thrown around or action is actually taken.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:36 PM ET
The Flyers organization needs to start changing their policy, do the Flyers ever extend players where they actually produce when they should?

Voracek looks horrible, how about we don't have another year where an extended player doesn't take 15-20 games into the year before they warm up.

Oddly B. Schenn looks like he has a bit of a fire...I wonder why.

First time for the year to see if Hakstol accountability is just a word thrown around or action is actually taken.

- Glak18


so you're proposing that he should....(fill in the blank here)....?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:38 PM ET
so you're proposing that he should....(fill in the blank here)....?
- hammarby31


Play the players that are going to produce or sit them.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:45 PM ET
Play the players that are going to produce or sit them.
- Glak18


so he should sit voracek and giroux? i'm just asking.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:50 PM ET
so he should sit voracek and giroux? i'm just asking.
- hammarby31


Personally if they need to split them up or sit Voracek for a game to send a message then so be it. Worst thing to do is to wait until they get their "confidence" back or "get the bounces back" or [fill in every cliche]. 5 games in a row, can also include preseason, where Voracek has looked absolutely horrible. Maybe he is having personal problems too because he looks it, let him sit and figure it out.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 20 @ 10:54 PM ET
Personally if they need to split them up or sit Voracek for a game to send a message then so be it. Worst thing to do is to wait until they get their "confidence" back or "get the bounces back" or
- Glak18[fill in every cliche]. 5 games in a row, can also include preseason, where Voracek has looked absolutely horrible. Maybe he is having personal problems too because he looks it, let him sit and figure it out.

Good lord man.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 20 @ 10:55 PM ET
Personally if they need to split them up or sit Voracek for a game to send a message then so be it. Worst thing to do is to wait until they get their "confidence" back or "get the bounces back" or
- Glak18[fill in every cliche]. 5 games in a row, can also include preseason, where Voracek has looked absolutely horrible. Maybe he is having personal problems too because he looks it, let him sit and figure it out.



you're going to sit Voracek in favor of Vinny or Umberger?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 10:55 PM ET
I'm pretty much at the point where I can't even blame the coaches anymore for their ES woes. It's just a poor mix of guys up front.
- hereticpride


You certainly can't blame the coaches. They have been right around "brutal" at ES since Jagr left, and we are on our third one since then
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
We are a bad ES team. I didn't think we were that bad until MJL pointed it out the midway point of thr first
- SuperSchennBros

voracek 1 ES goal in the last 52 games
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
Personally if they need to split them up or sit Voracek for a game to send a message then so be it. Worst thing to do is to wait until they get their "confidence" back or "get the bounces back" or
- Glak18[fill in every cliche]. 5 games in a row, can also include preseason, where Voracek has looked absolutely horrible. Maybe he is having personal problems too because he looks it, let him sit and figure it out.


Need to sit G, Simmonds, Couts, MDZ and Medvedev too.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
voracek 1 ES goal in the last 52 games
- 2Real


You look at that stat and you almost can't believe it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
You look at that stat and you almost can't believe it
- AllInForFlyers

it's really absurd how poor they are
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:03 PM ET
it's really absurd how poor they are
- 2Real


Have to say, I have killed Brayden Schenn in the past, and that stat is damn near as ridiculous as anything Schenn has done
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:04 PM ET
You look at that stat and you almost can't believe it
- AllInForFlyers


i actually can't believe that stat. it's beyond ludicrous. that's for (frank)ing real?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:05 PM ET
Have to say, I have killed Brayden Schenn in the past, and that stat is damn near as ridiculous as anything Schenn has done
- AllInForFlyers

when our top guys can't do it i don't know what to say about the rest of the team are we missing a true elite player?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:05 PM ET
i actually can't believe that stat. it's beyond ludicrous. that's for (frank)ing real?
- hammarby31

that's all the announcers talk about on the radio if you listen to the sports talk
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:06 PM ET
Personally if they need to split them up or sit Voracek for a game to send a message then so be it. Worst thing to do is to wait until they get their "confidence" back or "get the bounces back" or
- Glak18[fill in every cliche]. 5 games in a row, can also include preseason, where Voracek has looked absolutely horrible. Maybe he is having personal problems too because he looks it, let him sit and figure it out.


i have no problem with them being split up. i've seen effort and skating...not gliding with disinterest, so that at the bare minimum is some kind of positive. i wouldn't sit voracek.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:07 PM ET
that's all the announcers talk about on the radio if you listen to the sports talk
- 2Real


i don't. not anymore. it all just bores me to tears. i don't know why. even the canadian shows where the hosts actually understand what they're talking about.
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