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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:08 PM ET
i don't. not anymore. it all just bores me to tears. i don't know why. even the canadian shows where the hosts actually understand what they're talking about.
- hammarby31

if you were watching the eagles game last night they were making fun of how poor the flyers have been the past few years
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:09 PM ET
i have no problem with them being split up. i wouldn't sit them. i've seen effort and skating...not gliding with disinterest,
so that at the bare minimum is some kind of positive. i wouldn't sit voracek.

- hammarby31


Giroux was definitely going tonight, IMO
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Oct 20 @ 11:09 PM ET
Roussel
- NoobasaurusRex


I'm all for playing agressive, I'm all for fighting, all for after play scrums, but when appropriate. He just goes and starts poop after every single shift he's on. He's just a Richard.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:10 PM ET
if you were watching the eagles game last night they were making fun of how poor the flyers have been the past few years
- 2Real


i literally fell asleep sitting up in my bed at 8 pm mountain time. in the small portion of the game i witness, which was hideous except for the eagles 2nd td, i didn't hear a single thing about hockey, nor would i expect to on a MNF game on espn. perhaps you're joking. or talking about another broadcast.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:12 PM ET
i literally fell asleep sitting up in my bed at 8 pm mountain time. in the small portion of the game i witness, which was hideous except for the eagles 2nd td, i didn't hear a single thing about hockey, nor would i expect to on a MNF game on espn. perhaps you're joking. or talking about another broadcast.
- hammarby31

no they were talking about how the eagles are philadelphia's only hope to win a championship in the next few years the singled out how the flyers missed the playoffs the last few years
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 20 @ 11:19 PM ET
That's a great idea to sit Jake. I can see it now: How could Hexstall hire a college coach.....hes over his head.....he cant coach grown men

awesome
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:25 PM ET
They're getting chances, just not finishing. They also just became the first team to hold Dallas to fewer than 3 goals this season. By all means, bench everyone.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:26 PM ET
i literally fell asleep sitting up in my bed at 8 pm mountain time. in the small portion of the game i witness, which was hideous except for the eagles 2nd td, i didn't hear a single thing about hockey, nor would i expect to on a MNF game on espn. perhaps you're joking. or talking about another broadcast.
- hammarby31


Yeah Tirico made a throwaway line about the Sixers rebuilding, the Phillies collapsing & noted the Flyers struggles. It was a 5 second comment, not a big deal.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Oct 20 @ 11:28 PM ET
Three lucky bounces ended up in the net, they got 2 we got 1. Tough loss, but good overall team effort. on to the next
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:29 PM ET
i have no problem with them being split up. i've seen effort and skating...not gliding with disinterest, so that at the bare minimum is some kind of positive. i wouldn't sit voracek.
- hammarby31


Well, at least with Flyer fans, the line is drawn for accountability. Would you sit Read? He played like poop, was called for a slash with 2 mins left in the game (technically wasn't a penalty, but can't change a refs mind). I guess it is easier to sit someone who the fans aren't told is a cornerstone of the team, but kind of makes accountability a moot point then.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 20 @ 11:30 PM ET
Giroux was definitely going tonight, IMO
- AllInForFlyers

He had 8 shots on goal and Voracek had 6. I know people are on them but I mean come on. A combined 14 shots? They keep playing like this and the goals will start coming. Voracek's shooting percentage isn't going to be 0 all year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:35 PM ET
Well, at least with Flyer fans, the line is drawn for accountability. Would you sit Read? He played like poop, was called for a slash with 2 mins left in the game (technically wasn't a penalty, but can't change a refs mind). I guess it is easier to sit someone who the fans aren't told is a cornerstone of the team, but kind of makes accountability a moot point then.
- Glak18


White and Manning were worse than Read and Voracek. Stupid penalties and poor play.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:37 PM ET
Yeah Tirico made a throwaway line about the Sixers rebuilding, the Phillies collapsing & noted the Flyers struggles. It was a 5 second comment, not a big deal.
- Jsaquella


the flyers are on the proper rebuild path. i can't speak for the other franchises, but the sixers and phils seem like a (frank)ing mess and i really have no idea what the eagles are actually trying to do.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Oct 20 @ 11:39 PM ET
you guys, man.


you guys.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:41 PM ET
He had 8 shots on goal and Voracek had 6. I know people are on them but I mean come on. A combined 14 shots? They keep playing like this and the goals will start coming. Voracek's shooting percentage isn't going to be 0 all year.
- TobyFlenderson

the issue is ES goals not shots taken
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:42 PM ET
White and Manning were worse than Read and Voracek. Stupid penalties and poor play.
- Jsaquella


I guess it comes down to the coaches criteria for accountability. 4th line player and 6th defenseman can not have a bad game, but 1st line player getting paid superstar money with hefty expectations will eventually bounce out of bad season so far.

Unfortunately my definition of accountability is much different than others.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:43 PM ET
the flyers are on the proper rebuild path. i can't speak for the other franchises, but the sixers and phils seem like a (frank)ing mess and i really have no idea what the eagles are actually trying to do.
- hammarby31


Flyers definitely on right path. I think the Phillies are finally on it, too. Lot of good talent in low minors, got decent returns for Hamels & others. New GM is obviously a huge decision, but the names leaked are people with stellar reputations. Sixers had right idea, but had injury & ping pong ball misfortune.

I get what Eagles are doing. Kelly knew he had a good team, but didn't think it was a Super Bowl team, so he blew it up. Should have gotten more for Jackson, and should have handled Mathis & Maclin better, but I at least see the ideas.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 20 @ 11:44 PM ET
I blame Manning on that one. Mason should have had it but Manning has to be harder on that puck.
- SuperSchennBros

yeh, but no

too easy a target

there were 10-15 other Stars scoring chances where Mase saved their butts

they all pretty much sucked tonight

I blame the layoff and their opponents have a great top line that make the chances count


Mase was the only player who looked OK to me

edit to add, G and the russian looked OK too
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 20 @ 11:45 PM ET
He had 8 shots on goal and Voracek had 6. I know people are on them but I mean come on. A combined 14 shots? They keep playing like this and the goals will start coming. Voracek's shooting percentage isn't going to be 0 all year.
- TobyFlenderson

credit to auntie nieme

he was very good
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:46 PM ET
He had 8 shots on goal and Voracek had 6. I know people are on them but I mean come on. A combined 14 shots? They keep playing like this and the goals will start coming. Voracek's shooting percentage isn't going to be 0 all year.
- TobyFlenderson


Think outside the box, not everyone here reads a box score and determines the quality of play by that. A lot more to the game then getting shots on goal. I'm sure the cliches will start to roll in like "can't score if you don't shoot", but on the other hand they created 14 shots on net and still were ineffective during the game....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 11:48 PM ET
I guess it comes down to the coaches criteria for accountability. 4th line player and 6th defenseman can not have a bad game, but 1st line player getting paid superstar money with hefty expectations will eventually bounce out of bad season so far.

Unfortunately my definition of accountability is much different than others.

- Glak18


If it was a matter of being lazy or dumb play it'd be one thing. I don't see either. I see chances created, but not finished. I see hard work. Eventually the puck will go in. Read took a stupid penalty at the end. Other than that I didn't have an issue with him. White took a dumb penalty and two or three dumb off sides. Manning had a few awful plays where he got caught in a bad spot & couldn't recover.

I have more faith in Voracek & Read rebounding and being better than I do White & Manning, and I have more faith in Umberger & Schenn replacing them & being more effective.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:48 PM ET
White and Manning were worse than Read and Voracek. Stupid penalties and poor play.
- Jsaquella

i recall read having a stupid penalty at a key moment
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:49 PM ET
the flyers are on the proper rebuild path. i can't speak for the other franchises, but the sixers and phils seem like a (frank)ing mess and i really have no idea what the eagles are actually trying to do.
- hammarby31


I love the fact the Flyers are finally looking towards the future, but that future isn't next year or 2 years from now. I guess Giroux and Voracek are good jersey sellers for the time being.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:51 PM ET
If it was a matter of being lazy or dumb play it'd be one thing. I don't see either. I see chances created, but not finished. I see hard work. Eventually the puck will go in. Read took a stupid penalty at the end. Other than that I didn't have an issue with him. White took a dumb penalty and two or three dumb off sides. Manning had a few awful plays where he got caught in a bad spot & couldn't recover.

I have more faith in Voracek & Read rebounding and being better than I do White & Manning, and I have more faith in Umberger & Schenn replacing them & being more effective.

- Jsaquella


Unfortunately I wish it was just a matter of once Voracek gets his first goal of season, but I guess I saw more issues then just that. He could of scored twice tonight and I would still be worried of his play so far.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 20 @ 11:54 PM ET
I love the fact the Flyers are finally looking towards the future, but that future isn't next year or 2 years from now. I guess Giroux and Voracek are good jersey sellers for the time being.
- Glak18


i keep saying 2019...and while i don't think they'll be horrible until then, in fact, i think they'll be a decent/bubble team...but man, it's going to be a long wait. games like tonight just (frank)ing infuriate me.
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