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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 2:48 PM ET
In the old days, a GM would sell out to fix that -- you wouldn't piss away a whole season with the kind of forwards they have. You'd see first-rounders and high-end prospects in play, right now

This era of the NHL isn't like that. Chris Pronger isn't getting traded multiple times anymore. GMs just aren't going to do it

- AllInForFlyers

How long can Columbus keep failing? They have a lot of their draft picks in the lineup. They picked up Saad. They added Hartnell last season. Bob's in goal. They have to be thinking that if they're healthy they're in the mix.

They're healthy and they can't keep the puck out of the net, score or win one damn game.

If they don't trade us two picks for Streit then they'll have to fire Richards and hire Torts.

Those are the only options.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 20 @ 2:48 PM ET
I can remember stretches like that though. They were out of a lot of games in the first period. They gave up a lot of 5 and 6 goal games.
- mayorofangrytown


By my quick count they lost 20 games where they gave up 5+ goals

http://www.hockeyfights.c...teams/22/schedule/reg2007

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
How long can Columbus keep failing? They have a lot of their draft picks in the lineup. They picked up Saad. They added Hartnell last season. Bob's in goal. They have to be thinking that if they're healthy they're in the mix.

They're healthy and they can't keep the puck out of the net, score or win one damn game.

If they don't trade us two picks for Streit then they'll have to fire Richards and hire Torts.

Those are the only options.

- mayorofangrytown


I hear you, but I'll be fairly surprised if they part with picks or high-end prospects

Why? Because that is what I would do, and GMs these days do exactly the opposite of what I would do to fix an obvious problem
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
By my quick count they lost 20 games where they gave up 5+ goals

http://www.hockeyfights.c...teams/22/schedule/reg2007

- Scoob


All empty-netters, I'm sure -- our heroes were pressing until the end

Geoff Sanderson and Petr Nedved cared, damn it! They cared
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
By my quick count they lost 20 games where they gave up 5+ goals

http://www.hockeyfights.c...teams/22/schedule/reg2007

- Scoob

They didn't have a stretch of 6 like the BJs are have to start this season but they gave up more than 300 goals that season. That's some bad hockey.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
They're more in the market for a defensive defenseman than someone like Streit. For a pair of first rounders, they might as well take a shot at acquiring Buff
- PhillySportsGuy


Luke Schenn would upgrade their third pairing.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
I hear you, but I'll be fairly surprised if they part with picks or high-end prospects

Why? Because that is what I would do, and GMs these days do exactly the opposite of what I would do to fix an obvious problem

- AllInForFlyers

I would be too but if they still think they're a playoff team on a bad start they might part with a first to get on track and sure up the D.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
Luke Schenn would upgrade their third pairing.
- Feanor

... and we could bring up MacDonald.

That would liven up the thread.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Looks like my percussionist friend in Key West will be setting up a gig or 2 for me here in December. Gonna play Duval Street!!!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Luke Schenn would upgrade their third pairing.
- Feanor


That's probably something they could do. It's difficult to make trades now because no GM wants to give away a player for a future asset until they know they won't contend. The cost will be high for everyone.

One acquisition isn't going to suddenly turn the team around though. They need Bob to be a good goalie again.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
That's probably something they could do. It's difficult to make trades now because no GM wants to give away a player for a future asset until they know they won't contend. The cost will be high for everyone.

One acquisition isn't going to suddenly turn the team around though. They need to get John Tortorella back on our televisions.

- PhillySportsGuy

ftfy
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:30 PM ET

PRETTY EXCITED FOR THE SEASON TO START
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
PRETTY EXCITED FOR THE SEASON TO START
- -davies-

Into the Badlands?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
Into the Badlands?
- mayorofangrytown



WHAT
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
ftfy
- BulliesPhan87


I can't imagine any worse person to bring to a fragile team.

"YOURE NOT BLOCKING ENOUGH PUCKS WITH YOUR (frank)ING FACES!!!"
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
WHAT
- -davies-

Into the Badlands on AMC...

http://www.amc.com/shows/...5ouT_zqs9Vl836BoCStDw_wcB


Seems like you would be waiting for this to start.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
One acquisition isn't going to suddenly turn the team around though. They need Bob to be a good goalie again.
- PhillySportsGuy


They're not playing that badly.... 50%+ possession team at ES and a really good PP.

It's mostly been Bob sucking and their PK being 65% that has sunk 'em so far.

If I were them, I'd wait this little period out. They're better than the standings would suggest.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
I can't imagine any worse person to bring to a fragile team.

"YOURE NOT BLOCKING ENOUGH PUCKS WITH YOUR (frank)ING FACES!!!"

- PhillySportsGuy

John Davidson is there though. There's your connection to Torts. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they make a coaching change that he's the first one interviewed. Davidson loves him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
They're not playing that badly.... 50%+ possession team at ES and a really good PP.

It's mostly been Bob sucking and their PK being 65% that has sunk 'em so far.

If I were them, I'd wait this little period out. They're better than the standings would suggest.

- Tomahawk

How about Chicago? They like to play fast and loose with their picks around Hextall and Keith is out.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
They're not playing that badly.... 50%+ possession team at ES and a really good PP.

It's mostly been Bob sucking and their PK being 65% that has sunk 'em so far.

If I were them, I'd wait this little period out. They're better than the standings would suggest.

- Tomahawk


Hmmm...I don't know, man. No, they're not the worst team in the league, and certainly I don't believe that they will finish the season as porous as they have been early.

But their ability to play bad defense is not understated. They give up shots and chances that are the kind the Flyers were giving up when Luke Schenn and Meszaros started to go sour, when Gus and Hal Gill were playing.

Sometimes, it doesn't matter how good you are offensicely, like Dallas was last year, when you give up the kinds of shots and chances that are prime opportunities
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
Looks like my percussionist friend in Key West will be setting up a gig or 2 for me here in December. Gonna play Duval Street!!!!
- BiggE


You lucky bastard!

Which bar?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
They're not playing that badly.... 50%+ possession team at ES and a really good PP.

It's mostly been Bob sucking and their PK being 65% that has sunk 'em so far.

If I were them, I'd wait this little period out. They're better than the standings would suggest.

- Tomahawk


Agreed. It's still early and they've shown once they hit their stride they can win 10+ in a row
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
John Davidson is there though. There's your connection to Torts. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they make a coaching change that he's the first one interviewed. Davidson loves him.
- mayorofangrytown


He's not a good coach
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
He's not a good coach
- PhillySportsGuy

I want nothing to do with him. He used to be a good coach but he's off the rails now.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
Into the Badlands on AMC...

http://www.amc.com/shows/...5ouT_zqs9Vl836BoCStDw_wcB


Seems like you would be waiting for this to start.

- mayorofangrytown


talking pucks here man
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