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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
The wings won!!!!

Looks like the blues & flyers will be in re-build mode.

- Marwood


Blues could be a good team again with a new GM. I've been a supporter in the past.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
I voted keep them both since the roster is only at 22. This means that they will be getting rotated in and out of the line up once Higgins comes back but thats still better than junior for these two guys.

The only thing that concerns me is McCanns size and strength... it's not ready... he already has been banged up because of it. He'll just have to learn quick to have NHL awareness.

- boonerbuck

Wasn't that from a cheap shot by Backes? Many people would have been banged up by it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
I voted keep them both since the roster is only at 22. This means that they will be getting rotated in and out of the line up once Higgins comes back but thats still better than junior for these two guys.

The only thing that concerns me is McCanns size and strength... it's not ready... he already has been banged up because of it. He'll just have to learn quick to have NHL awareness.

- boonerbuck


maybe if actually gets banged up, he'll get to do a rehab stint in the AHL
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
New Captain of the Wings

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
I agree his body may not be 100% nhl ready, but not that this is a reason to send him down. Johnny G did not look to have an NHL body last year but showed he deserves to be in this league and was one of calgarys best scoring threats. I see JV and McCann improving every game I see them. If you improve at the NHl level, what are the chances Juniors has anything for you to get better with? Backwards is not the way to go Forwards. I also have not seen them being a liability on the ice. yes they make some mistakes, but so do our vets. I mean Sidney Crosby doesn't even have a point yet and people always argue between him and Toews as to who is the best in the world(Toews hands down)
- Retinalz


I am reminded of Gilbert Brule whenever someone says going back to junior does nothing for a player... then again, can't say with certainty what could have been either.

I'd like to see an established winger traded, not too picky either as long as it is Higgins.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 16m16 minutes ago
Willie D sounded like McCann may get a look between Prust/Dorsett. Likes rookie's wheels. #Canucks

Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 33m33 minutes ago
Higgins will know better in a week about return from foot fracture. First skate today. Will wear skate guards. "I have no choice." #Canucks

Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer · 24m24 minutes ago  Greater Vancouver A, British Columbia
Willie D confirms Vrbata will play with Sedins. Says he was reluctant to load up top line but wants Vrbata to bump slump #Canucks


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yup
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:38 PM ET
I voted keep them both since the roster is only at 22. This means that they will be getting rotated in and out of the line up once Higgins comes back but thats still better than junior for these two guys.

The only thing that concerns me is McCanns size and strength... it's not ready... he already has been banged up because of it. He'll just have to learn quick to have NHL awareness.

- boonerbuck


He's as ready as RNH...
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:38 PM ET
Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 16m16 minutes ago
Willie D sounded like McCann may get a look between Prust/Dorsett. Likes rookie's wheels. #Canucks

Ben Kuzma ‏@benkuzma · 33m33 minutes ago
Higgins will know better in a week about return from foot fracture. First skate today. Will wear skate guards. "I have no choice." #Canucks

Brad Ziemer ‏@BradZiemer · 24m24 minutes ago  Greater Vancouver A, British Columbia
Willie D confirms Vrbata will play with Sedins. Says he was reluctant to load up top line but wants Vrbata to bump slump #Canucks

- hillbillydeluxe



It is about time Vrbata got moved up with the Sedins. He is the only legit sniper and the Sedin's efforts are being wasted as even they are snake bitten right now as evidenced by Daniel's open net miss. He could not do that even if he tried, just bad luck. Need Horvat, Sven and Sutter on second line. Too many third liners getting top six ice time.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
Sid was, Toews is.
- VANTEL

I think Towes is overrated...

Bergeron brings what he does.

I don't think he's the best player on his team, while Keith is there...

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
He's as ready as RNH...
- 1970vintage


I guess it's how you look at it.

Ready is more than just size. RNH has a couple of seasons under his belt.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
It is about time Vrbata got moved up with the Sedins. He is the only legit sniper and the Sedin's efforts are being wasted as even they are snake bitten right now as evidenced by Daniel's open net miss. He could not do that even if he tried, just bad luck. Need Horvat, Sven and Sutter on second line. Too many third liners getting top six ice time.
- flyerdude17


WD is going to have to find some lines that do work. I want to see McCann with a little skill around him too. Sick shot on him.

Sedins Vrbata
Sven Sutter Burrows
Prust Horvat JV
Dorsett McCann Hansen
Cracknell

Tricky trying to combine what I want to see and the lineup I expect WD to ice...

I said above I wanted to put McCann with more skill and I stick him with Hansen and Dorsett
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:53 PM ET
I guess it's how you look at it.

Ready is more than just size. RNH has a couple of seasons under his belt.

- boonerbuck


But as an 18 year old, he was smaller and was among the more productive Oilers p/60 on his team. Though, he did have his share of injuries...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
WD is going to have to find some lines that do work. I want to see McCann with a little skill around him too. Sick shot on him.

Sedins Vrbata
Sven Sutter Burrows
Prust Horvat JV
Dorsett McCann Hansen
Cracknell

Tricky trying to combine what I want to see and the lineup I expect WD to ice...

I said above I wanted to put McCann with more skill and I stick him with Hansen and Dorsett

- hillbillydeluxe

Burrows is going to have to play the left side because we have to many righties, until Higgins comes back.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
But as an 18 year old, he was smaller and was among the more productive Oilers p/60 on his team. Though, he did have his share of injuries...
- 1970vintage

How has that worked out for the Oilers?
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
WD is going to have to find some lines that do work. I want to see McCann with a little skill around him too. Sick shot on him.

Sedins Vrbata
Sven Sutter Burrows
Prust Horvat JV
Dorsett McCann Hansen
Cracknell

Tricky trying to combine what I want to see and the lineup I expect WD to ice...

- hillbillydeluxe


I suspect it will be:
JV Horvat Hanssen
Dorsett McCann Prust

They need to see if Mccann can with D&P before Higgins returns. That will give 4 centres and Cracknell flies to Utica. When Higgy returns Sven/JV/McCannon all get turns watching from the press box and/or loaned to National team until injury or trade happens. Vrby gets chance to refind his TDL value and which time all is well in the world again.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Burrows is going to have to play the left side because we have to many righties, until Higgins comes back.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Jeff Paterson
‏@patersonjeff
22-33-17
14-21-36
47-53-18
9-24-15
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#Canucks lines at UBC


Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff · 41m41 minutes ago
Horvat says Baertschi broke he glass. Says he got an assist on it



Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff · 53m53 minutes ago
#Canucks Henrik say Horvat was the one who broke the glass in practice: 'he's the only one strong enough'


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
Jeff Paterson
‏@patersonjeff
22-33-17
14-21-36
47-53-18
9-24-15
91

#Canucks lines at UBC


Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff · 41m41 minutes ago
Horvat says Baertschi broke he glass. Says he got an assist on it



Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff · 53m53 minutes ago
#Canucks Henrik say Horvat was the one who broke the glass in practice: 'he's the only one strong enough'

- hillbillydeluxe

That looks better
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:10 PM ET
How has that worked out for the Oilers?
- A_SteamingLombardi


They have 4 1st overall picks in the lineup, I think Canuck fans would be pretty happy about that right now, seeing as the Oilers and Canucks have won the same number of cups in the past 10 years...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
JV needs to play and so far WD seems reluctant to use him. Likely because he isn't responsible enough yet. The team will miss his physical presence but if the coach doesn't trust you to play, it wont make a difference.

I'm also in the camp of seeing this team be as successful vas possible this season but development should still be priority number one.

Unless a spot opens up on the 4th, send JV back.

McCann so far has looked IMO ready as far as his hockey sense. Keep him as long as he is physically capable, I say keep him. It would suck to burn a year of contract if he falters later in the season but is a risk worth taking.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
Blues could be a good team again with a new GM. I've been a supporter in the past.
- boonerbuck

We won't hold it against you
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Oct 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
That looks better
- A_SteamingLombardi


It looks to me like the second line is a 3rd line... and the 3rd line could be the second line in a season or two..

I want McCann in there somewhere.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
Jays down 4 zip in the first inning
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:34 PM ET
I think Towes is overrated...

Bergeron brings what he does.

I don't think he's the best player on his team, while Keith is there...

- kaptaan



Wow dude...three cups in 6 years says otherwise? Cheque please?

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:34 PM ET
Jays down 4 zip in the first inning
- boonerbuck

Yeah having to score 11 runs every game isn't going to work too well for them
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