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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
The hit showed me two things about Rinaldo we already knew. 1) that he is a barely functioning idiot when on the ice. Risking that type of hit shows an utter lack of common sense.
2)It shows his utter lack of respect for other players, both on his team and on the opposing team.

- MBFlyerfan


His "I thought he still had the puck" line was crap, too. Just means he was on a mission.

It's like getting stopped for running a red light and saying, "It was yellow the last time I looked at it."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
The hit showed me two things about Rinaldo we already knew. 1) that he is a barely functioning idiot when on the ice. Risking that type of hit shows an utter lack of common sense.
2)It shows his utter lack of respect for other players, both on his team and on the opposing team.

- MBFlyerfan


The hit reminds me of the Burrows hit on McDonagh from 2 years back. The legality of the hit can be debated to an extent. However, the hit was dirty and the only thing he had in mind was to "blow up" the player without any worries about the health of the player.

Hated him as a Flyer, hate him more now.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
His "I thought he still had the puck" line was crap, too. Just means he was on a mission.

It's like getting stopped for running a red light and saying, "It was yellow the last time I looked at it."

- tangent_man

he had that same smug, poop-eating, "aw yeah I did the thing" look on his face afterwords he had here. f rindaldo
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:25 AM ET

As for Giroux..I love the people that question his heart or ability to be a captain..How many games over the past 5 years has he shown an ability to elevate when he has either played poorly or it was needed.

- opeth_pa


I don't understand that. On the ice, he does all the little things you'd want out of your captain (plays the PK, wins faceoffs, goes into the tough areas) in addition to being (arguably) your best player. He is the engine on one of the best power plays in the sport over the past 3 or so years. He seems to comport himself well during interviews.

What else do people want?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
any of you have kids who play ice hockey in the area?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
he had that same smug, poop-eating, "aw yeah I did the thing" look on his face afterwords he had here. f rindaldo
- BulliesPhan87


This perfectly captures why I don't miss him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't understand that. On the ice, he does all the little things you'd want out of your captain (plays the PK, wins faceoffs, goes into the tough areas) in addition to being (arguably) your best player. He is the engine on one of the best power plays in the sport over the past 3 or so years. He seems to comport himself well during interviews.

What else do people want?

- johndewar



For some, nothing short of a Stanley Cup will do.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
any of you have kids who play ice hockey in the area?
- rinaldo

you need to change your username, dude; especially after last night.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:29 AM ET
you need to change your username, dude; especially after last night.
- FlyersFirst

what do you suggest? shutdown seanie?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
what do you suggest? shutdown seanie?
- rinaldo

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:39 AM ET

- BulliesPhan87


Game over. That wins.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Did anyone else recall Rinaldo running Couturier in Flyers prospect camp years ago? Or am I the only person? I mentioned that to my boss (Flyers STH) yesterday.

Rinaldo's hit and target were unsurprising.

- Flyskippy


Sorry. He holds no importance unless he's an HB season ticket holder
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
any of you have kids who play ice hockey in the area?
- rinaldo


Um, that would qualify as something that is none of your business as far as I'm concerned.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
The coach clearly trusts Schultz and Streit the most. They have gotten by far the hardest matchups. Medvedev and Schenn have got the easiest matchups, and Schenn was healthy scratched three times. The idea they would suddenly move to the top pairing is very unrealistic.

http://www.behindthenet.c...9+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67

- Feanor


I think they'd be better off balancing out the minutes between the defenseman. Clearly Streit and Schultz aren't capable of handling shutdown pair matchups.

If Schultz gets rough usage and produces bad results, it doesn't make him any better than the others. It's like the Amac effect on the Islanders
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Oct 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
shame Rinaldo has that bad boy in him because he is a good skater
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
Um, that would qualify as something that is none of your business as far as I'm concerned.
- Scoob


Oh, c'mon Scoob. There was a parable coming. Or a com-parable.

Something was coming, anyway.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Last night's game brought out everything I love and hate about the Flyers
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
Gagner, who tallied the Flyers' second goal, was originally slated to be a healthy scratch.
- Bill Meltzer


Yeah, that sure worked out for the better, didn't it?

From what I've seen, Gagner has been good, and it seems like he's paying a lot of attention to details away from the puck. He's even taking it upon himself to play more physically.

For the life of me, I'll never understand the love that coaches have for 4th-line plugs. I get that they're set if/forget it, and they bring energy and stuff, but jesus... what's it going to take to knock either of White or VDV out of the lineup?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
Um, that would qualify as something that is none of your business as far as I'm concerned.
- Scoob

Um, that's great as far as I am concerned. Don't you tell me my business again, You get back on the bridge.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Yeah, that sure worked out for the better, didn't it?

From what I've seen, Gagner has been good, and it seems like he's paying a lot of attention to details away from the puck. He's even taking it upon himself to play more physically.

For the life of me, I'll never understand the love that coaches have for 4th-line plugs. I get that they're set if/forget it, and they bring energy and stuff, but jesus... what's it going to take to knock either of White or VDV out of the lineup?

- Tomahawk


Good stuff seems to happen with Gagner out there. I'd like to see him stay in the lineup and if Couturier or Schenn are out for any length of time, he'll be out there.

Anyone know if he's playing sheltered minutes?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Oh, c'mon Scoob. There was a parable coming. Or a com-parable.

Something was coming, anyway.

- tangent_man

nah, just curious if any of you had any little johnnys playing any club hockey in the area is all.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
Um, that's great as far as I am concerned. Don't you tell me my business again, You get back on the bridge.
- rinaldo


10-4 little buddy
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah, that sure worked out for the better, didn't it?

From what I've seen, Gagner has been good, and it seems like he's paying a lot of attention to details away from the puck. He's even taking it upon himself to play more physically.

For the life of me, I'll never understand the love that coaches have for 4th-line plugs. I get that they're set if/forget it, and they bring energy and stuff, but jesus... what's it going to take to knock either of White or VDV out of the lineup?

- Tomahawk


If they start scoring goals
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 12:07 PM ET

- Scoob


Fantastic reference. One of the most underrated bands of ever.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 22 @ 12:10 PM ET
Yeah, that sure worked out for the better, didn't it?

From what I've seen, Gagner has been good, and it seems like he's paying a lot of attention to details away from the puck. He's even taking it upon himself to play more physically.

For the life of me, I'll never understand the love that coaches have for 4th-line plugs. I get that they're set if/forget it, and they bring energy and stuff, but jesus... what's it going to take to knock either of White or VDV out of the lineup?

- Tomahawk


See, that's a loaded question. Because that is the checking line right now.

I don't have an issue with replacing players due to performance. Go for it. But for numerous stretches last night and other nights, the fourth line has been the one line that has been putting in the work rate that this team needs to show, all while getting punishing zome starts.

Again, I get it: They are replacement level players. The problem is that the Flyers can't shelter everybody -- the coach clearly doesn't want to give Laughton those minutes, we don't want Couturier eating those minutes, and Gagner can't eat those minutes.

Gagner has been working harder than I have seen him, and that's great. But the coach was going to make him a healthy scratch because with this lineup the way it is, he can't hide everyone. We like Gagner until he starts getting caved in -- and if he was in the fourth line getting those zone starts, that is what would happen
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