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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'm not condemning him at all, and I know every goal has some that he wants back. But that one was REALLY bad.
- jmatchett383


it was bad, no doubt about it. and he knows it.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
Rinaldo's hit is very similar to the one that got Barrie three games. He just didn't elevate quite as much.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
Thanks for your input

Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva 3m3 minutes ago

Correction here. NHL didn't made a final decision on #bruins Zac Rinaldo.

- five4fighting10

Damn it
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
Lol told you guys it was a clean hit
- rangerdanger94


"Clean" and "Legal" are not the same thing. See also: Burrows on McDonagh.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
FYI

Renaud Lavoie
‏@renlavoietva

No suspension for #bruins Zac Rinaldo. Skates are not leaving the ice and the head was not the point of contact. #tvasports

- rangerdanger94


Right. Deemed not suspension worthy by the only opinions that matter. Doesn't make it clean, though.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
I'm not condemning him at all, and I know every goal has some that he wants back. But that one was REALLY bad.
- jmatchett383


I think if you asked him, Mase would want that one back.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
"Clean" and "Legal" are not the same thing. See also: Burrows on McDonagh.
- jmatchett383

You're the king of semantics Mr. Mugged vs Jumped
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
I don't go to the Rags board, so can you tell me if Flyers fans troll you guys when one of your players gets injured? I would hope not since it's a Richard move.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:33 PM ET

- jmatchett383


@1:16 Kramer explains #fancystats

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
You're the king of semantics Mr. Mugged vs Jumped
- rangerdanger94


I am the king of many things, including the interwebs.

Just saying, just because a hit wasn't illegal doesn't mean it's clean. A lot of hits by Darius Kasparitis, while not illegal, were also not clean. And, again, look at the Burrows hit on McDonagh from 2 years ago.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
Rinaldo's hit is very similar to the one that got Barrie three games. He just didn't elevate quite as much.
- Feanor


I'd be surprised if he got an excessive suspension. Hopefully Couturier isn't out long
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
FYI

Renaud Lavoie
‏@renlavoietva

No suspension for #bruins Zac Rinaldo. Skates are not leaving the ice and the head was not the point of contact. #tvasports

- rangerdanger94


he's still a dirty piece of poop. (frank) him. and the bruins. i hope he's in the lineup the next time they play one another.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
I don't go to the Rags board, so can you tell me if Flyers fans troll you guys when one of your players gets injured? I would hope not since it's a Richard move.
- Feanor

Crimson
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
T'Hawk suggest that somebody could get moved down to do the fourth line to slot Gagner in higher, so he can ostensibly be hidden and contribute offensively, which he has clearly shown he can do. Not taking that away from him at all. He has looked good offensively.

So the question becomes this, to me: Where do you put Gagner where either he or Simmonds aren't leaking at ES, even with favorable starts? Somebody's got to check and kill penalties -- take VDV out, ok. Who is killing with Bellemare?

- AllInForFlyers


Gagner's ES CF numbers are fine/good w/ certain linemates (Coots, Schenn, Umberger), and really bad with others (Laughton, Read, Simmer). He also spends almost half his total TOI with Schultz behind him, which hasn't helped.

I think you can piece together a couple of really nice combos in that middle-six:

Gagner, Coots, Schenn
Umberger/Read, Laughton, Simmonds/Read

Then whoever's left over replaces White on L4.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
@1:16 Kramer explains #fancystats


- Scoob


The appropriate times to post Seinfeld clips are identified by the unshaded portion of this chart:

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 1:43 PM ET
The appropriate times to post Seinfeld clips are identified by the unshaded portion of this chart:


- jmatchett383


wrong but
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Oct 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
wrong but
- Scoob




Edit: Yes, I did have that prepped awaiting your reply.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 22 @ 1:53 PM ET
Hi guys, can anyone let me know what the lines were last night please ?


Only caught the middle of the 3rd period, happy I witnessed that great comeback though.

I PVR'ed the game, after putting my son to bed started the game but the recording froze for some reason.

Thanks
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:00 PM ET


Edit: Yes, I did have that prepped awaiting your reply.

- jmatchett383


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
I didn't think there was anything particularly egregious on the Rinaldo hit other then it was a tad late. If they suspend him it will be because of the name on the back of the jersey.

That being said, F him, he's a bruin now. I'll take their third.

- mayorofangrytown


Rinaldo definetly exploded upward into the hit for no legitimate reason changing his trajectory. That and along with it being late I don't think anyone can make an argument against.

Suspendable in my opinion but of course he's had far worse
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Rinaldo definetly exploded upward into the hit for no legitimate reason changing his trajectory. That and along with it being late I don't think anyone can make an argument against.

Suspendable in my opinion but of course he's had far worse

- Just5



It was definitely a hit the NHL has been trying to get rid of. A player who was engaged with an opponent who had no ways or means to defend himself from a third player looking to hit him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 22 @ 2:32 PM ET
It was definitely a hit the NHL has been trying to get rid of. A player who was engaged with an opponent who had no ways or means to defend himself from a third player looking to hit him.
- MBFlyerfan



It's really about a culture. Hitting should be used to knock a player off the puck and to gain the puck back, not to crush a guy because you can, and to teach him a lesson to be more aware. They need to change the culture to rid the game of predatory hits. Hit for a purpose. That purpose should not be to knock a player into next week.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
It's really about a culture. Hitting should be used to knock a player off the puck and to gain the puck back, not to crush a guy because you can, and to teach him a lesson to be more aware. They need to change the culture to rid the game of predatory hits. Hit for a purpose. That purpose should not be to knock a player into next week.
- MJL

Rinaldo hit last night was opportunity. A player was defenseless and in his sights. Puck was gone and couturier was already being pressured from behind. Rinaldo took the opportunity to throw a big hit. Not a hit to separate a man from puck.
If he just swung past couturier and actually made a play on the puck.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 22 @ 2:36 PM ET
Lavoie just tweeted that his tweet abou no suspension is not correct, NHL is still reviewing it, no final decision made.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
Lavoie just tweeted that his tweet abou no suspension is not correct, NHL is still reviewing it, no final decision made.
- Jsaquella


so leight bro
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