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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yandle's is to the extreme
- PhillySportsGuy


Word to your mutha
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
If I make a comment regarding analytics just assume its meant from everyone except you
- PhillySportsGuy



It's a public online message forum.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
Speaking of bookmarked, I get to change nastyflyergirl's avatar for a week. Where she at?
- rangerdanger94


But she doesn't have to post anything

What was the bet again?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
It is common sense, but that's how those stats are misunderstood and not used properly. It's offered as a criticism when really it is the farthest from it. That's exactly how a player like Yandle and his skill set should be deployed.
- MJL


Wait...people misuse #fancystats!?!?!? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
It was your troll buddy who brought up point totals.

The Rags board must be a really boring place if you guys feel the need to come over with this weak poop. Our dman who gets 75% OZ starts has 5 points in 8 games... who (frank)ing cares. If he's so good why hasn't he been extended yet?

- Feanor


They actually invited me to the negotiations, but I can't make it until next Monday, I'll keep you posted
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
zone starts? point totals? wtf is this crap? is this really what trash talk has become?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
It should be. Yandle is one of the premier offensive defenseman in hockey, and with the make up of the Rangers defense, they can afford to do that, to best try and take advantage of Yandle's skill set.
- MJL


You see it as the coach utilizing Yandle's skill to the fullest. I see it as the coach not trusting Yandle defensively. Not saying it makes Yandle a bad player. He's a good player. He's just not a great player IMO
JohnnyNYR27
New York Rangers
Location: Astoria, NY
Joined: 03.28.2015

Oct 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
It was your troll buddy who brought up point totals.

The Rags board must be a really boring place if you guys feel the need to come over with this weak poop. Our dman who gets 75% OZ starts has 5 points in 8 games... who (frank)ing cares. If he's so good why hasn't he been extended yet?

- Feanor

Is this a serious question?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
@billmeltzer 22 minutes ago

14, 10, 30 all out skating

- Feanor


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
It should be. Yandle is one of the premier offensive defenseman in hockey, and with the make up of the Rangers defense, they can afford to do that, to best try and take advantage of Yandle's skill set.
- MJL


If they had two McDonaghs then the extremely heavy sheltering of Yandle might be sustainable, but they don't. Giradi is getting shelled even more than Schultz is.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Great, another one found its way in.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Wait...people misuse #fancystats!?!?!? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!!
- Scoob


They're only misused when it contradicts MJL's statements. Like when they said VL was cooked two years ago or when they said Umberger was nothing more than a 4th liner before last season or when they said Amac was an average third pairing defenseman.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
Great, another one found its way in.
- TobyFlenderson



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
You see it as the coach utilizing Yandle's skill to the fullest. I see it as the coach not trusting Yandle defensively. Not saying it makes Yandle a bad player. He's a good player. He's just not a great player IMO
- PhillySportsGuy



I agree, it's about Yandle not being best suited for defensive situations. When you have McDonagh, Staal, Klein, and Girardi, why would you put Yandle in those spots. A team is about the collective and makeup of players and what roles they're placed in. Imagine if we had the players to use Streit like that, would that make the Flyers better?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
I agree, it's about Yandle not being best suited for defensive situations. When you have McDonagh, Staal, Klein, and Girardi, why would you put Yandle in those spots. A team is about the collective and makeup of players and what roles they're placed in. Imagine if we had the players to use Streit like that, would that make the Flyers better?
- MJL



Stop it with your logic.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 23 @ 10:54 AM ET

- mdw7413

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
If they had two McDonaghs then the extremely heavy sheltering of Yandle might be sustainable, but they don't. Giradi is getting shelled even more than Schultz is.
- Feanor



Based on what? Corsi is a team number, and the season is young. Despite the early numbers, deploying Yandle in the fashion they are, with the makeup of their defense, is the right call in my opinion.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
If they had two McDonaghs then the extremely heavy sheltering of Yandle might be sustainable, but they don't. Giradi is getting shelled even more than Schultz is.
- Feanor

we do have 2 mcdonaghs. 1 of them is just developing in the AHL at the moment.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
I agree, it's about Yandle not being best suited for defensive situations. When you have McDonagh, Staal, Klein, and Girardi, why would you put Yandle in those spots. A team is about the collective and makeup of players and what roles they're placed in. Imagine if we had the players to use Streit like that, would that make the Flyers better?
- MJL


Thanks. We got it. Coaches are always right.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Thanks. We got it. Coaches are always right.
- PhillySportsGuy


Not always, but I'm sure they're right more often than message board posters.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
we do have 2 mcdonaghs. 1 of them is just developing in the AHL at the moment.
- rangerdanger94


Brady Skjei? Lolololololololol
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
Not always, but I'm sure they're right more often than message board posters.


- Scoob


Argument isn't about coaches. It's about Yandle.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Argument isn't about coaches. It's about Yandle.
- PhillySportsGuy



Really? Then why did you bring up Lecavalier, Umberger, and Mcdonald?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Brady Skjei? Lolololololololol
- PhillySportsGuy

Yea
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:11 AM ET
Really? Then why did you bring up Lecavalier, Umberger, and Mcdonald?
- MJL


Regarding your denial of analytics
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