The numbers are enshrined in the league's official stat platform now... they're here to stay. People will tend to bring them up when talking about the sport -- likely with ever-increasing frequency.

(Some of) you obstinate old codgers need to just get over it.
- Tomahawk

i'm over it, i just choose to stay out of the conversation about those numbers because i don't (frank)ing care. i don't want to watch the game that way managing possession numbers and whatever the (frank) else is apart of it. i generally don't give a poop about the other stats that have long defined the game either and i don't look at box scores and examine TOI etc. again, i just don't care. i just watch the game with my eyes and (try to) enjoy it.

that advanced stats and analytics are being employed by managers and coaches to assemble the best team possible and create strategies for winning in part based on these numbers is fine. more power to them. if it brings us a (frank)ing cup, i don't careif they use a (frank)ing abacus.

if it brings us a (frank)ing cup, i don't careif they use a (frank)ing abacus.
- hammarby31

Exactly. An abacus was good enough for Fred Shero, it should be good enough today!

Exactly. An abacus was good enough for Fred Shero, it should be good enough today!
- Scoob

i have zero doubt he had an abacus in his office.

i'm over it, i just choose to stay out of the conversation about those numbers because i don't (frank)ing care. i don't want to watch the game that way managing possession numbers and whatever the (frank) else is apart of it. i generally don't give a poop about the other stats that have long defined the game either and i don't look at box scores and examine TOI etc. again, i just don't care. i just watch the game with my eyes and (try to) enjoy it.

that advanced stats and analytics are being employed by managers and coaches to assemble the best team possible and create strategies for winning in part based on these numbers is fine. more power to them. if it brings us a (frank)ing cup, i don't careif they use a (frank)ing abacus.
- hammarby31

I don't want to see how the sausage is made. Just let me eat breakfast.

i'm over it
- hammarby31

thank you

i have zero doubt he had an abacus in his office.
- hammarby31

Damn calculators, what is wrong with the slide rule ?

i have zero doubt he had an abacus in his office.
- hammarby31

Probably used it to keep track of the beer and cigarette count in the locker room.

Exactly. An abacus was good enough for Fred Shero, it should be good enough today!
- Scoob

That's what they call putting the cat in the bottle.

This guy loves to research Corsi:





This guy says (frank) your Corsis and go pound sand!:





Isn't it obvious which one we want to be?

I don't want to see how the sausage is made. Just let me eat breakfast.
- bodiva88

exactly. it's one of the reasons i don't get into fantasy hockey. i don't (frank)ing care about the goddamn numbers. i just want my team to (frank)ing win, and i don't have the time to keep track of all this data for players i don't give a flying (frank) about.

thank you
- Tomahawk

no need to thank me. you may have noticed i have never engaged in this arena regarding corsi et al. that's the reason. for those that want to discuss it, have it.

Damn calculators, what is wrong with the slide rule ?
- flyhoc

nothing. protractors are fine too.

Probably used it to keep track of the beer and cigarette count in the locker room.
- Scoob

exactly.

i'm excited for tomorrow night's game. i can't wait to see csp make another diving save from behind the net with 92.1% of the net available.

exactly. it's one of the reasons i don't get into fantasy hockey. i don't (frank)ing care about the goddamn numbers. i just want my team to (frank)ing win, and i don't have the time to keep track of all this data for players i don't give a flying (frank) about.
- hammarby31

Please calm down. Your corsi levels are getting too high with all this stress. If you don't we'll have to prescribe fenwick.

thank you...

i'm excited for tomorrow night's game. i can't wait to see csp make another diving save from behind the net with most of the net available.
- hammarby31

fixed

i'm over it, i just choose to stay out of the conversation about those numbers because i don't (frank)ing care. i don't want to watch the game that way managing possession numbers and whatever the (frank) else is apart of it. i generally don't give a poop about the other stats that have long defined the game either and i don't look at box scores and examine TOI etc. again, i just don't care. i just watch the game with my eyes and (try to) enjoy it.

that advanced stats and analytics are being employed by managers and coaches to assemble the best team possible and create strategies for winning in part based on these numbers is fine. more power to them. if it brings us a (frank)ing cup, i don't careif they use a (frank)ing abacus.
- hammarby31

I've gone back and forth with it for awhile but I think I'm getting very close to making determinations on players without every actually watching them skate

grease fire.
- hammarby31

I've gone back and forth with it for awhile but I think I'm getting very close to making determinations on players without every actually watching them skate
- Just5

Like the some of the "scouting reports" we get here!

fixed
- Scoob

i see what you did there.

Torts benched Johansen cause he's fat

Please calm down. Your corsi levels are getting too high with all this stress. If you don't we'll have to prescribe fenwick.

thank you...
- hockeylover

fenwick can go (frank) himself right in the corsi.

His poise and reads blow me away. He's a big guy who isn't very physical (though he's shown at times he can throw people like Benn away from the puck), and he's certainly better offensively than defensively, but he's no slouch defensively either. He's a 2 way guy through and through. His passing and shooting are exceptional too. People don't like advanced stats, that's fine, but players who do what he does are analytic darlings. It's really not hard to see why: his NZ play is (frank)ing fantastic. Watch him at both blue lines: pinching, forcing chip ins. It's a master class -- he gives no space up. I don't think Hakstol could've found a more ideal player for his NZ based system.
- Mononoke

Medvedev is simply a playmaker. He makes plays with the puck in all 3 zones. His defensive coverage is solid. He has a real ability to get the shot off from the point quickly and accurately. A big part of being a analytics darling is shot generation. Which was one of the Flyers biggest issues last season.

I've gone back and forth with it for awhile but I think I'm getting very close to making determinations on players without every actually watching them skate
- Just5

that's the trend these days, seemingly.

i see what you did there.
- hammarby31

old school, baby!