wow 3-7 crap please PC trade Nuge or Yak or First Pick for Weber or Prietrangelo etc so this Oil team can start winning games cause is so bad that one of those D players will make this team win 20 straight wins......you know PC the way Calgary is winning with all that super D or the Ducks you guys are so wrong about this Oil team.
- AlEx_OiL

huh?
yes wow--year 6 of a rebuild.


anyways, ima move on to discussing this with someone who I believe understands how the game works......

No pb the door is open

If everyone was healthy this still isnt a playoff team but from what I can tell you are suggesting that we would be?
- RatedR80

Or maybe he is saying that if everyone was healthy, there record would be far better than 3-7, maybe 5-5, 6-4, and people aren't calling for all these trades. When you consider new coach, half the D core this year is different from last year, and how many moves were made up front, does it not make sense it will take more than 10 games to put it all together? Not including the fact the injury bug has hit early this year?

Nope not saying the Oil would be a playoff team but would improve the Oil more.
- AlEx_OiL

Yes I can understand that with everyone healthy we would be a better team there is zero doubt about that but are you saying you are comfortable with the D core we have? im not saying blow this poop up but would it reallllly hurt to move ONE guy for someone who could possibly help us on the back end?

You are being way too optimistic for the folk around here that are ready to slash their wrists, and as such assume that pro hockey players are as mentally weak as they are, and thus "have to win now or it's all over for them".....actually sounds more like it's them that need the win more than the players. Apparently after last season, with the changes that were made, the Oilers record was supposed to be 7-3, not 3-7. Instant fix for the fans that require instant gratification of needs.
- leonkennedy

you are such a giant douche.
wtf is wrong with you?
jesus man

huh?
yes wow--year 6 of a rebuild.


anyways, ima move on to discussing this with someone who I believe understands how the game works......
- Ihateallofu

Yes. Anyone that does not share your viewpoint, does not understand hockey. If you have time, look up the word "egocentric".

wow 3-7 crap please PC trade Nuge or Yak or First Pick for Weber or Prietrangelo etc so this Oil team can start winning games cause is so bad that one of those D players will make this team win 20 straight wins......you know PC the way Calgary is winning with all that super D or the Ducks you guys are so wrong about this Oil team.
- AlEx_OiL

The point isn't to be better than the Flames or Leafs or Canucks or Ottawa or Anaheim; it's to be the best they can possibly be. You set the bar so low by suggesting that because we're ahead of those team that we should be happy. Those other teams you've mentioned excluding Toronto have one MAJOR thing over our team; they've had a modicum of success in the last decade.

Or maybe he is saying that if everyone was healthy, there record would be far better than 3-7, maybe 5-5, 6-4, and people aren't calling for all these trades. When you consider new coach, half the D core this year is different from last year, and how many moves were made up front, does it not make sense it will take more than 10 games to put it all together? Not including the fact the injury bug has hit early this year?
- leonkennedy

Right and as I just said im not saying blow this team up....it wouldnt kill us to explore trading ONE of the many forwards we do have to improve us on the back end

Yes I can understand that with everyone healthy we would be a better team there is zero doubt about that but are you saying you are comfortable with the D core we have? im not saying blow this poop up but would it reallllly hurt to move ONE guy for someone who could possibly help us on the back end?
- RatedR80

its funny cause the only way a counterpoint could be made is to way over exaggerate.

who wants to blow the team up? we're in year 6 of a rebuild and we're doing the same things we've seen for years and year. and blowing games in the same manner.
so we suggest making moves to improve our obvious weaknesses and we're CRAZY!!!!


and are we talking about griffin fukin reinhart and matt Hendricks? is this a joke?
our whole season depended on those guys staying healthy? if that's the case, we're even more fuked than I thought and we really do have to make some changes

Yes. Anyone that does not share your viewpoint, does not understand hockey. If you have time, look up the word "egocentric".
- leonkennedy

no, no

just alex and anyone who agrees with him

Or maybe he is saying that if everyone was healthy, there record would be far better than 3-7, maybe 5-5, 6-4, and people aren't calling for all these trades. When you consider new coach, half the D core this year is different from last year, and how many moves were made up front, does it not make sense it will take more than 10 games to put it all together? Not including the fact the injury bug has hit early this year?
- leonkennedy

Maybe it would be. Just as likely it wouldn't be any different. The point is that the team shouldn't cripple under the weight of losing Eberle, Hendricks, and Schultz. A good NHL team has the means and wherewithal to recover from and fight through those types of losses.

I'm not as doom and gloom as HB is, but I can see where he's coming from and don't blame him for feeling the way he does.

you are such a giant douche.
wtf is wrong with you?
jesus man
- Ihateallofu

Pretty simple based on reading your posts over a period of time. "If they lose again and we go 0-5, this season is over, the team is done". "I can't handle another oilers loss". "the refs and the league screwed us again". etc. etc. etc.

I sure hope the pro athletes on the team don't share the same negative, sentiments, or they are truly (frank)ed.

Yes I can understand that with everyone healthy we would be a better team there is zero doubt about that but are you saying you are comfortable with the D core we have? im not saying blow this poop up but would it reallllly hurt to move ONE guy for someone who could possibly help us on the back end?
- RatedR80

I'm comfortable with the D the Oil have right now that includes Nurse and Reinhart,this team is not a playoff team right now not matter who you bring (weber etc)if the Oil were to trade for any of those D players your moving players like Nudge,Yak plus etc and there's not need for that right now, let this team with the D they got now improve on their own,if PC is a smart GM I won't see any big trades that would include any of the top 6 cause there's not need for it.

You are being way too optimistic for the folk around here that are ready to slash their wrists, and as such assume that pro hockey players are as mentally weak as they are, and thus "have to win now or it's all over for them".....actually sounds more like it's them that need the win more than the players. Apparently after last season, with the changes that were made, the Oilers record was supposed to be 7-3, not 3-7. Instant fix for the fans that require instant gratification of needs.
- leonkennedy

Such an immature argument. This is almost worse than an ad homenim attack, but I can't say I expect any different from you.

The point isn't to be better than the Flames or Leafs or Canucks or Ottawa or Anaheim; it's to be the best they can possibly be. You set the bar so low by suggesting that because we're ahead of those team that we should be happy. Those other teams you've mentioned excluding Toronto have one MAJOR thing over our team; they've had a modicum of success in the last decade.
- MaximumBone

well said
and outside of Toronto, theyre also better than us now


id also like to submit that to those who don't think 5 years of bottom feeding doesn't affect ones confidence because theyre far too mentally strong for that--I could only guess you've never played a fuking sport in your life. or youre under the impression these guys aren't just regular people. nor just guys who are good at hockey, but instead are superhumans

Maybe it would be. Just as likely it wouldn't be any different. The point is that the team shouldn't cripple under the weight of losing Eberle, Hendricks, and Schultz. A good NHL team has the means and wherewithal to recover from a fight through those types of losses.

I'm not as doom and gloom as HB is, but I can see where he's coming from and don't blame him for feeling the way he does.
- MaximumBone

That's exactly it. They weren't that team going into the season. What trade out there, removes a positive on the team, that also fills that hole, as well as fixing out lets say a hole on the back end? Clearly there is work that needs to be done, both on and off the ice. Not sure that on ice work has had time to be finished yet.

Also giggity to all the times I said hole, and being filled.

Such an immature argument. This is almost worse than an ad homenim attack, but I can't say I expect any different from you.
- MaximumBone

Your defensive response, just proves you find validity in the post. Thank you.

The point isn't to be better than the Flames or Leafs or Canucks or Ottawa or Anaheim; it's to be the best they can possibly be. You set the bar so low by suggesting that because we're ahead of those team that we should be happy. Those other teams you've mentioned excluding Toronto have one MAJOR thing over our team; they've had a modicum of success in the last decade.
- MaximumBone

I didn't say I'm happy with their record,I say I do see the improvement regardless of their record right now,and that this team with a complete roster will improve more and that means winning more games,I just don't see the need of a big trade.

Pretty simple based on reading your posts over a period of time. "If they lose again and we go 0-5, this season is over, the team is done". "I can't handle another oilers loss". "the refs and the league screwed us again". etc. etc. etc.

I sure hope the pro athletes on the team don't share the same negative, sentiments, or they are truly (frank)ed.
- leonkennedy

never blamed the league or the refs.
ever


its only the organization that may have broke this core

well said
and outside of Toronto, theyre also better than us now


id also like to submit that to those who don't think 5 years of bottom feeding doesn't affect ones confidence because theyre far too mentally strong for that--I could only guess you've never played a fuking sport in your life. or youre under the impression these guys aren't just regular people. nor just guys who are good at hockey, but instead are superhumans
- Ihateallofu

A lot of things point to them being totally capable- even likely- of succumbing to the pressures of not only failure, but success. They're not gods that are exempt from the many flaws in the human psyche.

well said
and outside of Toronto, theyre also better than us now


id also like to submit that to those who don't think 5 years of bottom feeding doesn't affect ones confidence because theyre far too mentally strong for that--I could only guess you've never played a fuking sport in your life. or youre under the impression these guys aren't just regular people. nor just guys who are good at hockey, but instead are superhumans
- Ihateallofu

If pro athletes were just regular people as you suggest, then every regular person would be doing it. Although I am sure that ball hockey league you played in is equivalent to being in the NHL. I suppose looking at the broader sense, of what makes one able to compete at that level, is lost on someone who thinks they have any idea of what it is like simply because they played a team sport.

Maybe it would be. Just as likely it wouldn't be any different. The point is that the team shouldn't cripple under the weight of losing Eberle, Hendricks, and Schultz. A good NHL team has the means and wherewithal to recover from and fight through those types of losses.

I'm not as doom and gloom as HB is, but I can see where he's coming from and don't blame him for feeling the way he does.
- MaximumBone

blaming the losses on injuries to griffin reinhart et al??

how can I seriously take anything these mongs say seriously?

I think that they see it much like a video game. just keep losing and getting high picks and eventually your ratings will get so high that youll just start winning.

are we seriously arguing that bottom feeding into year 6 of a rebuild is us being too quick to judge!!?

Don't get too excited boys... Novembers schedule is just as bad or worse. If we can manage 10-12 spot in west by January things could really turn around. Schedule gets much easier in middle/latter half of year. I just hope the team doesn't get confidence hosed.

If pro athletes were just regular people as you suggest, then every regular person would be doing it. Although I am sure that ball hockey league you played in is equivalent to being in the NHL. I suppose looking at the broader sense, of what makes one able to compete at that level, is lost on someone who thinks they have any idea of what it is like simply because they played a team sport.
- leonkennedy

theyre just dudes who are good athletes and worked hard to add to that god given skill.
many are fragile and weak minded as fuk.

wtf are u talking about?
are u seriously under the impression that they all possess some innate mental capacity that everyone else doesn't because of their ability to play hockey?

you seriously haven't ever played a sport at any high level have you? youre seriously under the impression these guys are superhuman in all ways?
holy fuk, youre more out of touch than I even thought

If pro athletes were just regular people as you suggest, then every regular person would be doing it. Although I am sure that ball hockey league you played in is equivalent to being in the NHL. I suppose looking at the broader sense, of what makes one able to compete at that level, is lost on someone who thinks they have any idea of what it is like simply because they played a team sport.
- leonkennedy

I'm almost sure that if the Leaf had a 5-7 record some of this guys here would trade this whole Oil team for the Leaf team because they have two more wins