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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
maybe athletes should be held to a higher standard off the field


if I got caught smoking dope, I lose my job

if I went on a rant that degraded people representing my employer, I lose my job

if I get arrested and miss work, I lose my job

- homiedclown



At the same time, though, if that's the case, it's because your employer no longer sees you as valuable. The negatives outweigh the value being brought in from your services. In the case of an athlete, especially a really good one, that's not necessarily the case. It's unfortunate, but if you made the company tons of money, and were virtually irreplaceable, or at least incredibly difficult to replace, you would not necessarily lose your job for doing that.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
It was instagram.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

and Instagram....

there's a saying us old folk were taught growing up...think before you speak...twitter, Instagram and other forms of social media blow that to smithereens and create a lot of trouble for celebs who use them
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
your way off base on this one
- homiedclown


I just can't believe that people seriously get this upset about things that athletes say or do.

We don't have cameras following us around all the time or the media waiting for us to blow up about some aspect of our lives that we don't like. We don't understand how they feel and we shouldn't even try and figure it out.

Like Taco said. These guys are people too. With feelings and all that jazz. I'd be more upset that he didn't care what we were saying to be quite honest. That would tell me that he doesn't give a poop about the fans at all.

But hey...what do I know.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:30 PM ET
Hypocrite. They should be able to say what they want. Why can't they have social media?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo



There's a big difference between being allowed to use social media, and being a good idea to use social media. She's saying it's the latter.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
who cares what Sammy Watkins says he's probably just frustrated he probably gets over a billion emails from every Bills fan saying hey you're glass
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:32 PM ET
No. WE don't pay HIM anything. Pegula does. The mentality that they have to answer to us because we're providing their paycheck is laughable.
- HonkFortheGoose



The idea that we have to care about this guys feelings is laughable. Think this guy gives a poop if I have money or family problems in my life? No. I'll say the same thing I said when we were tanking. As fans, we are selfish in our endeavor. We want what we want and that's it. We have so little control of getting the things we want from our sports teams. That being said criticizing pro athletes directly is small minded and stupid. But just like driving your car, someone is going to do something stupid every day. I bet on the ride home you'll see at least 3 dumb and dangerous acts. But you get out of your car and start screaming at people? No, you let it go because you are mature enough to understand that this is how the masses operate. You don't damage your personal image for your lack of understanding.

But to me, this is a demonstration that Sammy is not up to the task both on the field and off of it. The Bills are a tire fire and it just got bigger with this incident.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:32 PM ET
Hypocrite. They should be able to say what they want. Why can't they have social media?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


They can say what they want in any other outlet. That's not hypocritical. If they have something they really think they need to say, there are plenty of reporters out there that would be willing to sit and listen.

The point is, social media allows for people (not just athletes) to say things right as it comes to them, repercussions be damned. When you have to go through the process of getting a reporter to come hear what you have to say, it kind of makes you take a step back and decide whether or not it's worth it.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
who cares what Sammy Watkins says he's probably just frustrated he probably gets over a billion emails from every Bills fan saying hey you're glass
- gerbe75pts



If the shoe fits....
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:35 PM ET
The idea that we have to care about this guys feelings is laughable. Think this guy gives a poop if I have money or family problems in my life? No. I'll say the same thing I said when we were tanking. As fans, we are selfish in our endeavor. We want what we want and that's it. We have so little control of getting the things we want from our sports teams. That being said criticizing pro athletes directly is small minded and stupid. But just like driving your car, someone is going to do something stupid every day. I bet on the ride home you'll see at least 3 dumb and dangerous acts. But you get out of your car and start screaming at people? No, you let it go because you are mature enough to understand that this is how the masses operate. You don't damage your personal image for your lack of understanding.

But to me, this is a demonstration that Sammy is not up to the task both on the field and off of it. The Bills are a tire fire and it just got bigger with this incident.

- Buffalo--Sabres


No, but there have been times I've wanted to.

This is where the evils of social media come into play. It's easy for the fan base to attack the players and it's easy for the players to say things back to the fan base that are probably better off left unsaid.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:35 PM ET
They can say what they want in any other outlet. That's not hypocritical. If they have something they really think they need to say, there are plenty of reporters out there that would be willing to sit and listen.

The point is, social media allows for people (not just athletes) to say things right as it comes to them, repercussions be damned. When you have to go through the process of getting a reporter to come hear what you have to say, it kind of makes you take a step back and decide whether or not it's worth it.

- HonkFortheGoose



I'm just giving you a hard time at this point. I never said he shouldn't express his feelings or say he is upset with fans, but calling them losers and taking low blows at the middle class of buffalo is what upsets me.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:36 PM ET
If the shoe fits....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


I'm honestly over this it had disaster written all over it you draft a wide receiver before you have a QB in place this is what happens..

but it won't shock me if we trade him becomes Larry Fitzgerald and balls out
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Holy hell I thought Stamkos was traded to Calgary for a second lol
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
And I'm very disappointed in Robert Woods I thought he was going to be a very good wide receiver

I was thinking we're going to have a Demaryius Thomas , Eric Decker thing going .. oh well
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:42 PM ET


CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:45 PM ET



- Sabresfan-365



Roy would be gone if he wasnt Patrick Roy
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:47 PM ET
Roy would be gone if he wasnt Patrick Roy
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


His situation reminds me a lot of Rutherford with Carolina. I think Roy also holds a VP title so getting rid of him is not so easy.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Oct 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
Team Goose all the way on this one.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm just giving you a hard time at this point. I never said he shouldn't express his feelings or say he is upset with fans, but calling them losers and taking low blows at the middle class of buffalo is what upsets me.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Like I said, he shouldn't have said it. But at the same time, I understand why he did. You can only poke a bear so many times before the bear will lash out.

This is mostly the result of the team not living up to expectations at this point though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
Team Goose all the way on this one.
- rmiethaner

the players do not want the fans talking down on them

but.............


it's ok for them to talk down on the fans



perfect business plan, makes all the sense in the world to grow the business
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm honestly over this it had disaster written all over it you draft a wide receiver before you have a QB in place this is what happens..

but it won't shock me if we trade him becomes Larry Fitzgerald and balls out

- gerbe75pts

he is closer to jerry butler then fitz


then again butler had heart
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:59 PM ET
His situation reminds me a lot of Rutherford with Carolina. I think Roy also holds a VP title so getting rid of him is not so easy.
- Sabresfan-365



I said the year he was hired that people of his demeanor often get tuned out after a while.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
Like I said, he shouldn't have said it. But at the same time, I understand why he did. You can only poke a bear so many times before the bear will lash out.

This is mostly the result of the team not living up to expectations at this point though.

- HonkFortheGoose



On the flipside, Tom Brady is a cheating, lying, crybaby and shows terrible sportsmanship. He embodies none of the traits that you would want your kids to embrace growing up. But he wins all the time. So no one in Boston gives a dam.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
the players do not want the fans talking down on them

but.............


it's ok for them to talk down on the fans



perfect business plan, makes all the sense in the world to grow the business

- homiedclown


You really completely missed my point, which was that nobody should be saying any of this to each other. Period.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
You really completely missed my point, which was that nobody should be saying any of this to each other. Period.
- HonkFortheGoose

I didn't know I live in Russia
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
I didn't know I live in Russia
- homiedclown



Again, you're confusing "can't" with "shouldn't".
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